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Ah, lovely. We're having a "moment".
I'm sorry - you're a bit late for that.
The moment passed.
Also, even if you don't care or already saw it and just wish to ignore it, I answered your question about "improving" vocal range in a thread some time ago.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=red>The Audacity of Charles wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=pink>The Millionaire Waltz wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I just wonder how these guys can have vocal range covering like... several octaves, falsetto excluded.
Is it due to vocal training? Does anyone know how to expand your vocal range? [/QUOTE]
If you are wondering for yourself - learning how to use your head voice will probably greatly expand your range if you have not perviously been using it. By learning how to do this I've personally "unlocked" a full ovctave.
If you don't have access to a music teacher, those "Day-dah" thingies that Freddie does are damn good for getting in the head voice.[/QUOTE]
The moment passed.
Also, even if you don't care or already saw it and just wish to ignore it, I answered your question about "improving" vocal range in a thread some time ago.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=red>The Audacity of Charles wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=pink>The Millionaire Waltz wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I just wonder how these guys can have vocal range covering like... several octaves, falsetto excluded.
Is it due to vocal training? Does anyone know how to expand your vocal range? [/QUOTE]
If you are wondering for yourself - learning how to use your head voice will probably greatly expand your range if you have not perviously been using it. By learning how to do this I've personally "unlocked" a full ovctave.
If you don't have access to a music teacher, those "Day-dah" thingies that Freddie does are damn good for getting in the head voice.[/QUOTE]
Ah, thanks. I really didn't see it.
^ Was the question for you ? And are you in choir ?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=red>The Audacity of Charles wrote: [/QUOTENAME]^ Was the question for you ? And are you in choir ?[/QUOTE]
Yes, it was for me. I'm quite fascinated and interested in this.
I sing myself and have a pathetic range of 2 octaves, falsetto excluded. I was just wondering if there's someway to expand my vocal range... so yes, the question was for me.
And, no I'm not singing in a choir.
Yes, it was for me. I'm quite fascinated and interested in this.
I sing myself and have a pathetic range of 2 octaves, falsetto excluded. I was just wondering if there's someway to expand my vocal range... so yes, the question was for me.
And, no I'm not singing in a choir.
thanks for the link to your site daria k. I've just read that quote from Caballe and this line stood out for me
"So, to prove a point, I got him to sing a duet with me – Violetta’s and Germont’s ‘Dite alla giovine’ from ‘La Traviata’,which I think was taped"
"..which I think was taped"...has this ever been heard/leaked/clarified?
"So, to prove a point, I got him to sing a duet with me – Violetta’s and Germont’s ‘Dite alla giovine’ from ‘La Traviata’,which I think was taped"
"..which I think was taped"...has this ever been heard/leaked/clarified?
^ If that was taped... wow... I'm sorry, I have to go drool in privacy now.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=pink>The Millionaire Waltzzz wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Yes, it was for me. I'm quite fascinated and interested in this.
I sing myself and have a pathetic range of 2 octaves, falsetto excluded. I was just wondering if there's someway to expand my vocal range... so yes, the question was for me.
And, no I'm not singing in a choir.[/QUOTE]
I'm not an expert, but I've been researching like mad for the past few months...
Do you know the notes of your vocal range ? If you have access to a piano or keyboard, or music programme on the computer, this would work.
I mention this because if you just sing "do-re-mi-et cetera" twice, it may not be accurate - you may not be going up a whole tone, or your could be overshooting.
This might interest you : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_voice . I also find it cute since it actually mentions one "Freddie Mercury" in the part about Head Voice.
I mention this again because before I figured out (and am still figuring out, really) the head voice, I had 2 octaves in my chest voice, which may sound familiar to you, if that is your situation as well.
A choir teacher could help you lots, I think. Because they could actually hear you, you know. Also, two octaves would be just fine for school choir. I mean, the greatest range in one of our songs so far is 1.625 octaves, and two exhibit only one octave (I have this obsessive-compulsive thing about tabulating statistics...).
If that's not an option, you might want to buy a book of music and torture someone into playing it for you.
As you might tell from all that verbosity, I am also currently fascinated with singing and the voice.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=pink>The Millionaire Waltzzz wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Yes, it was for me. I'm quite fascinated and interested in this.
I sing myself and have a pathetic range of 2 octaves, falsetto excluded. I was just wondering if there's someway to expand my vocal range... so yes, the question was for me.
And, no I'm not singing in a choir.[/QUOTE]
I'm not an expert, but I've been researching like mad for the past few months...
Do you know the notes of your vocal range ? If you have access to a piano or keyboard, or music programme on the computer, this would work.
I mention this because if you just sing "do-re-mi-et cetera" twice, it may not be accurate - you may not be going up a whole tone, or your could be overshooting.
This might interest you : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_voice . I also find it cute since it actually mentions one "Freddie Mercury" in the part about Head Voice.
I mention this again because before I figured out (and am still figuring out, really) the head voice, I had 2 octaves in my chest voice, which may sound familiar to you, if that is your situation as well.
A choir teacher could help you lots, I think. Because they could actually hear you, you know. Also, two octaves would be just fine for school choir. I mean, the greatest range in one of our songs so far is 1.625 octaves, and two exhibit only one octave (I have this obsessive-compulsive thing about tabulating statistics...).
If that's not an option, you might want to buy a book of music and torture someone into playing it for you.
As you might tell from all that verbosity, I am also currently fascinated with singing and the voice.
Eck. Never mind. Sorry for the wasted space.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=red>The Audacity of Charles wrote: [/QUOTENAME]^ If that was taped... wow... I'm sorry, I have to go drool in privacy now.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=pink>The Millionaire Waltzzz wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Yes, it was for me. I'm quite fascinated and interested in this.
I sing myself and have a pathetic range of 2 octaves, falsetto excluded. I was just wondering if there's someway to expand my vocal range... so yes, the question was for me.
And, no I'm not singing in a choir.[/QUOTE]
I'm not an expert, but I've been researching like mad for the past few months...
Do you know the notes of your vocal range ? If you have access to a piano or keyboard, or music programme on the computer, this would work.
I mention this because if you just sing "do-re-mi-et cetera" twice, it may not be accurate - you may not be going up a whole tone, or your could be overshooting.
This might interest you : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_voice . I also find it cute since it actually mentions one "Freddie Mercury" in the part about Head Voice.
I mention this again because before I figured out (and am still figuring out, really) the head voice, I had 2 octaves in my chest voice, which may sound familiar to you, if that is your situation as well.
A choir teacher could help you lots, I think. Because they could actually hear you, you know. Also, two octaves would be just fine for school choir. I mean, the greatest range in one of our songs so far is 1.625 octaves, and two exhibit only one octave (I have this obsessive-compulsive thing about tabulating statistics...).
If that's not an option, you might want to buy a book of music and torture someone into playing it for you.
As you might tell from all that verbosity, I am also currently fascinated with singing and the voice.[/QUOTE]
I've been playing piano for a few years now, and and I do have access to a piano, and I'd say I'm a baritone. Most of the stuff Freddie sings is at the very top of my range, but I have no trouble at all singing along to Elvis.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who's really into this voice thing. We should talk on MSN sometime, if you're willing to share your wisdom.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=pink>The Millionaire Waltzzz wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Yes, it was for me. I'm quite fascinated and interested in this.
I sing myself and have a pathetic range of 2 octaves, falsetto excluded. I was just wondering if there's someway to expand my vocal range... so yes, the question was for me.
And, no I'm not singing in a choir.[/QUOTE]
I'm not an expert, but I've been researching like mad for the past few months...
Do you know the notes of your vocal range ? If you have access to a piano or keyboard, or music programme on the computer, this would work.
I mention this because if you just sing "do-re-mi-et cetera" twice, it may not be accurate - you may not be going up a whole tone, or your could be overshooting.
This might interest you : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_voice . I also find it cute since it actually mentions one "Freddie Mercury" in the part about Head Voice.
I mention this again because before I figured out (and am still figuring out, really) the head voice, I had 2 octaves in my chest voice, which may sound familiar to you, if that is your situation as well.
A choir teacher could help you lots, I think. Because they could actually hear you, you know. Also, two octaves would be just fine for school choir. I mean, the greatest range in one of our songs so far is 1.625 octaves, and two exhibit only one octave (I have this obsessive-compulsive thing about tabulating statistics...).
If that's not an option, you might want to buy a book of music and torture someone into playing it for you.
As you might tell from all that verbosity, I am also currently fascinated with singing and the voice.[/QUOTE]
I've been playing piano for a few years now, and and I do have access to a piano, and I'd say I'm a baritone. Most of the stuff Freddie sings is at the very top of my range, but I have no trouble at all singing along to Elvis.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who's really into this voice thing. We should talk on MSN sometime, if you're willing to share your wisdom.
Appart from Freddie´s voice, one of the most incredible voices i´ve ever heard is Rob Halford from Judas Priest on they 1982 Live in Memphis DVD.
Simply amazing!
Take care
Simply amazing!
Take care
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]magicalfreddiemercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]M a t i a s M a y<h6><i>QZ's Rainmaker wrote: [/QUOTENAME]A FUCKING TENOR
A FUCKING TENOR [/QUOTE]
Why does it matter to you so much?[/QUOTE]
He is angry. So that, I'm angry, too! Freddie is a FUCKING TENOR Fucker!
A FUCKING TENOR [/QUOTE]
Why does it matter to you so much?[/QUOTE]
He is angry. So that, I'm angry, too! Freddie is a FUCKING TENOR Fucker!
You people are dumb. Go listen to Bohemian Rhapsody and believe that is a baritone voice? Go listen to The Show Must Go On, or Mother Love.
Montserrate Caballe only knew Freddie for a few years before his death. During the 80s, his voice did sound heavier, and more of a baritone voice. He smoked, drank, and didn't take care of his voice. And he was dying of AIDS! Obviously to me, but not obvious to some, when you are so ill and so traumatized and shocked and depressed and suffering inside, I don't think Freddie cared too much about the state of his voice! I'm sure he had other issues, like trying to survive.
Sure, Freddie wanted to make an Operatic album, and he did. But the time in which Montserrate Caballle spent with him was very brief, and in one of his darkest periods of his life! I think her comments of Freddie's voice were ONLY of that time in the mid 80s.
But I think Queen fans who've been fans for their entire career would disagree with Montserrate. Hypothetically, I'd like hear Montserrate's voice when she: 1. Smokes heavily. 2. Drinks heavily. 3. Gets afflicted with some fatal disease. Then I'd like to hear how she sounds. I think she'd be a wreck inside as a person, so traumatized that she'd neglect her voice. And people would then say she's an Alto or some nonsense like that.
Freddie was a tenor! Ask Brian May. Ask Roger Taylor. If they say Freddie is a Baritone, then fine because they knew him best. But Montserrate is not qualified to judge Freddie's voice.
I remember Brian saying of Freddie's voice on Innuendo, "his voice got better" or something like that. Why would Brian say that? What Brian most likely meant was, during the 80s, Freddie's voice declined for reasons we now know. Freddie didn't take care of his voice. But on the Innuendo Album, despite his illness, Freddie wanted the last album to be excellent. So Freddie worked at his voice, and his voice almost did reach the levels of 70s albums. Almost, not quite, but far better than most of his 80s work.
So I would love to hear Montserrate comment on Innuendo. Is that a baritone voice Montserrate? Is Freddie's range, and timbre that of a baritone?
I think Montserrate would have to say, NO.
I think John,Brian, and Roger definitely agrees Freddie Mercury is a Tenor.
Montserrate Caballe only knew Freddie for a few years before his death. During the 80s, his voice did sound heavier, and more of a baritone voice. He smoked, drank, and didn't take care of his voice. And he was dying of AIDS! Obviously to me, but not obvious to some, when you are so ill and so traumatized and shocked and depressed and suffering inside, I don't think Freddie cared too much about the state of his voice! I'm sure he had other issues, like trying to survive.
Sure, Freddie wanted to make an Operatic album, and he did. But the time in which Montserrate Caballle spent with him was very brief, and in one of his darkest periods of his life! I think her comments of Freddie's voice were ONLY of that time in the mid 80s.
But I think Queen fans who've been fans for their entire career would disagree with Montserrate. Hypothetically, I'd like hear Montserrate's voice when she: 1. Smokes heavily. 2. Drinks heavily. 3. Gets afflicted with some fatal disease. Then I'd like to hear how she sounds. I think she'd be a wreck inside as a person, so traumatized that she'd neglect her voice. And people would then say she's an Alto or some nonsense like that.
Freddie was a tenor! Ask Brian May. Ask Roger Taylor. If they say Freddie is a Baritone, then fine because they knew him best. But Montserrate is not qualified to judge Freddie's voice.
I remember Brian saying of Freddie's voice on Innuendo, "his voice got better" or something like that. Why would Brian say that? What Brian most likely meant was, during the 80s, Freddie's voice declined for reasons we now know. Freddie didn't take care of his voice. But on the Innuendo Album, despite his illness, Freddie wanted the last album to be excellent. So Freddie worked at his voice, and his voice almost did reach the levels of 70s albums. Almost, not quite, but far better than most of his 80s work.
So I would love to hear Montserrate comment on Innuendo. Is that a baritone voice Montserrate? Is Freddie's range, and timbre that of a baritone?
I think Montserrate would have to say, NO.
I think John,Brian, and Roger definitely agrees Freddie Mercury is a Tenor.
I've heard Bass voices. I've heard Baritones. And I've heard Tenor voices. Operatic voices. In real life.
A Bass voice is extremely low. They sound like a Frogs with their deep voices.
A baritone is a lot like a Bass voice, but it has more range, possibly going to an F above Middle C.
A tenor's voice is different from both Bass and Baritone. They have a lighter timbre than Bass or Baritone, and their ranges are usually higher than a baritones. A top notch Tenor can hit a C note.
Freddie's voice was unusual. At times in his career, he could sound almost like a soprano but he had a tenor range. At times, he could sound like a baritone, with a tenor's range. Therefore it is not easy to label Freddie.
The man has a 3.5 octave range. He could do a Bass, baritone, Tenor, and at times an Alto range voice. He had that kind of range, and flexibility. That's why he could sing so many different styles of songs from slow love songs (love of my life) to metal (Sheer Heart Attack) to Pop (A kind of magic).
But if we had to pick one voice, Freddie can't be a baritone. He was a tenor.
Finally, I'd love for those people who claim Freddie was a baritone to produce an MP3 of a baritone who sounds like Freddie in any decade.
70s, 80s, or 90s. No baritone can sing even an 80s rock song where Freddie was at his lowest. "A kind of Magic" requires a Tenor voice. I don't know if Luciano Pavrotti could sing it well. I doubt it. No Baritone can sing any Queen song.
A Bass voice is extremely low. They sound like a Frogs with their deep voices.
A baritone is a lot like a Bass voice, but it has more range, possibly going to an F above Middle C.
A tenor's voice is different from both Bass and Baritone. They have a lighter timbre than Bass or Baritone, and their ranges are usually higher than a baritones. A top notch Tenor can hit a C note.
Freddie's voice was unusual. At times in his career, he could sound almost like a soprano but he had a tenor range. At times, he could sound like a baritone, with a tenor's range. Therefore it is not easy to label Freddie.
The man has a 3.5 octave range. He could do a Bass, baritone, Tenor, and at times an Alto range voice. He had that kind of range, and flexibility. That's why he could sing so many different styles of songs from slow love songs (love of my life) to metal (Sheer Heart Attack) to Pop (A kind of magic).
But if we had to pick one voice, Freddie can't be a baritone. He was a tenor.
Finally, I'd love for those people who claim Freddie was a baritone to produce an MP3 of a baritone who sounds like Freddie in any decade.
70s, 80s, or 90s. No baritone can sing even an 80s rock song where Freddie was at his lowest. "A kind of Magic" requires a Tenor voice. I don't know if Luciano Pavrotti could sing it well. I doubt it. No Baritone can sing any Queen song.
Look, SomebodyWhoLoves - I appreciated your post and the time you took to write it. But I really don't think that calling people dumb is going to help get your point across. I did not expect to read what I did - something level-headed, I expected just shouting, and I almost didn't read your post because of that.
Since I do not know as much as I would like about classifying voices (in fact, I'm trying to learn), I can't say I agree or disagree with your views anymore than the well-written ones of someone else.
All I can say is, thank you for finally giving support to the Tenor-side of the argument, but no thank you for starting it off with name-calling.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=pink>The Millionaire Waltzzz wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I've been playing piano for a few years now, and and I do have access to a piano, and I'd say I'm a baritone. Most of the stuff Freddie sings is at the very top of my range, but I have no trouble at all singing along to Elvis.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who's really into this voice thing. We should talk on MSN sometime, if you're willing to share your wisdom.[/QUOTE]
Well... if I find some wisdom, I wouldn't mind sharing it at "OurLadyCharles@hotmail.com" for MSN. It would be nice to talk to someone else who wants to learn about the voice and such.
Since I do not know as much as I would like about classifying voices (in fact, I'm trying to learn), I can't say I agree or disagree with your views anymore than the well-written ones of someone else.
All I can say is, thank you for finally giving support to the Tenor-side of the argument, but no thank you for starting it off with name-calling.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=pink>The Millionaire Waltzzz wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I've been playing piano for a few years now, and and I do have access to a piano, and I'd say I'm a baritone. Most of the stuff Freddie sings is at the very top of my range, but I have no trouble at all singing along to Elvis.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who's really into this voice thing. We should talk on MSN sometime, if you're willing to share your wisdom.[/QUOTE]
Well... if I find some wisdom, I wouldn't mind sharing it at "OurLadyCharles@hotmail.com" for MSN. It would be nice to talk to someone else who wants to learn about the voice and such.