[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME]He's a baritenor.[/QUOTE]
Aha! I KNEW you'd agree with me!
But isn't baritenor kind of a slang term for being half way? I've never heard it used "officially".
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I think that his vocal range was so wide that it's stupid to classify it in the first place.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME]He's a baritenor.[/QUOTE]
Aha! I KNEW you'd agree with me!
But isn't baritenor kind of a slang term for being half way? I've never heard it used "officially".[/QUOTE]
Me neither. I don't even know exactly what it means, but I do believe that his vocal range encompasses both the baritone and tenor range, so I thought it would be an apt title for him.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME]He's a baritenor.[/QUOTE]
Aha! I KNEW you'd agree with me!
But isn't baritenor kind of a slang term for being half way? I've never heard it used "officially".[/QUOTE]
Me neither. I don't even know exactly what it means, but I do believe that his vocal range encompasses both the baritone and tenor range, so I thought it would be an apt title for him.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Me neither. I don't even know exactly what it means, but I do believe that his vocal range encompasses both the baritone and tenor range, so I thought it would be an apt title for him.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that was my rationale, too. But in the end, I think it really doesn't matter - or at least, certainly not to the point of requiring all of this discussion.
Yeah, that was my rationale, too. But in the end, I think it really doesn't matter - or at least, certainly not to the point of requiring all of this discussion.
Although his speaking voice naturally fell in the baritone range, his singing voice was that of a tenor. His recorded vocal range spanned nearly four octaves (falsetto included), with his lowest recorded note being the F below the bass clef and his highest recorded note being the D that lies nearly four octaves above. In addition to vocal range, Mercury often delivered technically difficult songs in a powerful manner. However, due in part to the fact that he suffered from vocal nodules (for which he declined surgery), he would often lower the highest notes during many concerts. Mercury also claimed that he never had any formal vocal training.
I think ... as a general opinion - that the very extremes of his voice - especially on the upper end were kinda one-off things. I mean... he couldn't just write Soprano Cs and Ds in there all over the place, even in the studio... they just weren't reliable.
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And... on a side note, a Baritenor:
"Baritenor" is a slang word describing a male voice whose tessitura lies between the baritone and the tenor. The word is frequently used to describe one of the most common male musical vocal types, rather a pop singer than a true operatic baritone with an upward extension into tenor territority and with a baritonal quality.
Sounds pretty good to me.
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And... on a side note, a Baritenor:
"Baritenor" is a slang word describing a male voice whose tessitura lies between the baritone and the tenor. The word is frequently used to describe one of the most common male musical vocal types, rather a pop singer than a true operatic baritone with an upward extension into tenor territority and with a baritonal quality.
Sounds pretty good to me.
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i just emailed brian may on the topic. you can also email him at:
brians.soapbox@clara.co.uk
good luck!
brians.soapbox@clara.co.uk
good luck!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]im a fool wrote: [/QUOTENAME]i just emailed brian may on the topic. you can also email him at:
brians.soapbox@clara.co.uk
good luck![/QUOTE]
I emailed him already, but that was quite a while ago when this topic reocurred again... but he did not reply.
I am sad that some of you do not believe the opinions of fully classically trained singers like Monserrat Caballé, since 'right' singing and any kind of art is based on classic.
brians.soapbox@clara.co.uk
good luck![/QUOTE]
I emailed him already, but that was quite a while ago when this topic reocurred again... but he did not reply.
I am sad that some of you do not believe the opinions of fully classically trained singers like Monserrat Caballé, since 'right' singing and any kind of art is based on classic.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color=B22222>daria k. wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]im a fool wrote: [/QUOTENAME]i just emailed brian may on the topic. you can also email him at:
brians.soapbox@clara.co.uk
good luck![/QUOTE]
I emailed him already, but that was quite a while ago when this topic reocurred again... but he did not reply.
I am sad that some of you do not believe the opinions of fully classically trained singers like Monserrat Caballé, since 'right' singing and any kind of art is based on classic.[/QUOTE]
very well said!
i would say freddie has a tenor voice and not a baritone, his speaking voice is not dark enough and his voice isn't so "full" on the low tones to call him a baritone (sorry but it's very difficult for me to describe that in english...).
and i doubt it seriously that you hear a professionell opinion from brian may about freddies voice.
i wouldn't say he's a "koloraturheldenbariton", his voice is not sharp enough for that.
i think he's a tenor with a large amplitude on the voice.
brians.soapbox@clara.co.uk
good luck![/QUOTE]
I emailed him already, but that was quite a while ago when this topic reocurred again... but he did not reply.
I am sad that some of you do not believe the opinions of fully classically trained singers like Monserrat Caballé, since 'right' singing and any kind of art is based on classic.[/QUOTE]
very well said!
i would say freddie has a tenor voice and not a baritone, his speaking voice is not dark enough and his voice isn't so "full" on the low tones to call him a baritone (sorry but it's very difficult for me to describe that in english...).
and i doubt it seriously that you hear a professionell opinion from brian may about freddies voice.
i wouldn't say he's a "koloraturheldenbariton", his voice is not sharp enough for that.
i think he's a tenor with a large amplitude on the voice.
Rosedewitt:
Do you realize that you are disagreeing with "daria k" by stating your opinion that Freddie had a tenor voice?
"daria k" has stated in the past that only a classically trained singer like Monserrat Caballe is qualified to classify Freddie Mercury's voice. Monserrat has classified Freddie Mercury's voice as a baritone.
On the contrary, I believe that Brian May, Roger Taylor, and John Deacon are more qualified than Monserrat to know Freddie's voice best, since they have spent 20+ years recording, writing, performing with him. Not only that, but they are also brilliant musicians, songwriters, and vocalists. They are the ones who know Freddie's voice the best.
And I believe that they will all unanimously state that Freddie was a TENOR without question. A baritone voice could not have sung Bohemian Rhapsody, White Queen, March of the Black Queen, Save Me, or other countless Queen songs that were written for a Tenor voice.
I hope that Brian May can clear this up, and will respond to the questions raised.
Do you realize that you are disagreeing with "daria k" by stating your opinion that Freddie had a tenor voice?
"daria k" has stated in the past that only a classically trained singer like Monserrat Caballe is qualified to classify Freddie Mercury's voice. Monserrat has classified Freddie Mercury's voice as a baritone.
On the contrary, I believe that Brian May, Roger Taylor, and John Deacon are more qualified than Monserrat to know Freddie's voice best, since they have spent 20+ years recording, writing, performing with him. Not only that, but they are also brilliant musicians, songwriters, and vocalists. They are the ones who know Freddie's voice the best.
And I believe that they will all unanimously state that Freddie was a TENOR without question. A baritone voice could not have sung Bohemian Rhapsody, White Queen, March of the Black Queen, Save Me, or other countless Queen songs that were written for a Tenor voice.
I hope that Brian May can clear this up, and will respond to the questions raised.
yes i agree with you that the others from queen maybe knew his voice best because they heard it so often, but they are not professionell singers and can say anything professionell about freddies voice, only how it sounded to them or how they felt when they heard it, you know, only personal opinions.
well i guess freddie didn't care what kind of voice he had, he just sang what he could sing and didn't think while composing or singing "hummmm when i am a baritone, i have to change that because a baritone can't sing that...".
well i can live with my disagreement with daria k. and don't care that our opinions on freddies voice are different :)
well i guess freddie didn't care what kind of voice he had, he just sang what he could sing and didn't think while composing or singing "hummmm when i am a baritone, i have to change that because a baritone can't sing that...".
well i can live with my disagreement with daria k. and don't care that our opinions on freddies voice are different :)
My late father was a very good tenor singer and I wouldn't say Freddie was anything like that type of voice. Also, baritone is a deeper voice than tenor and Freddie didn't have that type of voice either so I would say he wasn't either.
By the way, my dad, a big fan of operatic music, hated rock n roll but even he thought Freddie had a great singing voice. Unfortunately he thought Freddie wasted it singing "That type of rubbish"!!!
By the way, my dad, a big fan of operatic music, hated rock n roll but even he thought Freddie had a great singing voice. Unfortunately he thought Freddie wasted it singing "That type of rubbish"!!!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Drowse1 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]My late father was a very good tenor singer and I wouldn't say Freddie was anything like that type of voice. Also, baritone is a deeper voice than tenor and Freddie didn't have that type of voice either so I would say he wasn't either.
By the way, my dad, a big fan of operatic music, hated rock n roll but even he thought Freddie had a great singing voice. Unfortunately he thought Freddie wasted it singing "That type of rubbish"!!![/QUOTE]
Um..so what are you saying exactly? Do you think Freddie is a tenor or baritone?
By the way, my dad, a big fan of operatic music, hated rock n roll but even he thought Freddie had a great singing voice. Unfortunately he thought Freddie wasted it singing "That type of rubbish"!!![/QUOTE]
Um..so what are you saying exactly? Do you think Freddie is a tenor or baritone?
you can't say it so straight like you can say in classical singing. the rock-/popsingers can't be put in order in such categories soprano, alto, tenor and bass because the technique and the compositions are different. you can't say britney spears is a soprano or alto, her voice is neither nor, her technique is belting. the same you can say with freddies voice, the way he sang is not the classical way of singing.
if freddie would have done a classical singing education he probably would have sing tenor because his voice was quite bright and his speaking voice also not dark, - but you can't be sure because the voice can change during the education.
if freddie would have done a classical singing education he probably would have sing tenor because his voice was quite bright and his speaking voice also not dark, - but you can't be sure because the voice can change during the education.
I agree it just doesn't matter for the rock music singer.
I would only guess that at some point Freddie may have actually discussed it with Brian, especially during his Barcelona project and his excitement over getting to work with his favorite opera star.
I would only guess that at some point Freddie may have actually discussed it with Brian, especially during his Barcelona project and his excitement over getting to work with his favorite opera star.
No no no. It does matter. Even in pop/rock, there are tenor, baritone, and bass voices.
A voice is a voice, whether it is rock, pop, or opera. And therefore, you can classify rock/pop voices as either Tenor, Baritone, Bass, Sprano, or Alto.
For example, Madonna is an Alto. Britney Spears is an Alto. Mariah Carey is a Soprano.
A good example of a baritone in pop/rock is Harry Connick Jr.
Freddie Mercury is in my opinion, a tenor.
A voice is a voice, whether it is rock, pop, or opera. And therefore, you can classify rock/pop voices as either Tenor, Baritone, Bass, Sprano, or Alto.
For example, Madonna is an Alto. Britney Spears is an Alto. Mariah Carey is a Soprano.
A good example of a baritone in pop/rock is Harry Connick Jr.
Freddie Mercury is in my opinion, a tenor.