[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]SomebodyWhoLoves wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Rosedewitt:
Do you realize that you are disagreeing with "daria k" by stating your opinion that Freddie had a tenor voice?
"daria k" has stated in the past that only a classically trained singer like Monserrat Caballe is qualified to classify Freddie Mercury's voice. Monserrat has classified Freddie Mercury's voice as a baritone.
On the contrary, I believe that Brian May, Roger Taylor, and John Deacon are more qualified than Monserrat to know Freddie's voice best, since they have spent 20+ years recording, writing, performing with him. Not only that, but they are also brilliant musicians, songwriters, and vocalists. They are the ones who know Freddie's voice the best.
And I believe that they will all unanimously state that Freddie was a TENOR without question. A baritone voice could not have sung Bohemian Rhapsody, White Queen, March of the Black Queen, Save Me, or other countless Queen songs that were written for a Tenor voice.
I hope that Brian May can clear this up, and will respond to the questions raised.
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Every baritone can try sing Bohemian Rhapsody, White Queen etc. with falcetto/'head voice' - but than the question would occur: 'Will it be the SAME Bohemian Rhapsody'...
It is true: like rosedewitt said, it is seems absurd to classify Freddie's voice because he wasn't an opera singer. But if he would have been an opera singer and trained for it, he would be a baritone, because his speaking voice had the colour of a baritone's one; I'd like to mention that I have vocal lessons, my parents are both opera singers and my father vocal teacher; my mother sang with Luciano Pavarotti, Placido Domingo, José Carreras, she met Montserrat Caballé once, she is very famous in Japan, Russia and Ukraine and famous in Europe; here is her website: www.victoria-loukianetz.com. If my parents say Freddie was a baritone - are they wrong?
I don't like to argue - I am a person who likes 'peace' -, but I hope very much this problem will be resolved. It is a great pity that Brian did not answer me; it is likely that he will not answer at all - or maybe only, if everybody of us writes to him... But if he will not write back, then there will be the question: how this problem can be resolved?
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color=B22222>daria k. wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]SomebodyWhoLoves wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Rosedewitt:
Do you realize that you are disagreeing with "daria k" by stating your opinion that Freddie had a tenor voice?
"daria k" has stated in the past that only a classically trained singer like Monserrat Caballe is qualified to classify Freddie Mercury's voice. Monserrat has classified Freddie Mercury's voice as a baritone.
On the contrary, I believe that Brian May, Roger Taylor, and John Deacon are more qualified than Monserrat to know Freddie's voice best, since they have spent 20+ years recording, writing, performing with him. Not only that, but they are also brilliant musicians, songwriters, and vocalists. They are the ones who know Freddie's voice the best.
And I believe that they will all unanimously state that Freddie was a TENOR without question. A baritone voice could not have sung Bohemian Rhapsody, White Queen, March of the Black Queen, Save Me, or other countless Queen songs that were written for a Tenor voice.
I hope that Brian May can clear this up, and will respond to the questions raised.
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Every baritone can try sing Bohemian Rhapsody, White Queen etc. with falcetto/'head voice' - but than the question would occur: 'Will it be the SAME Bohemian Rhapsody'...
It is true: like rosedewitt said, it is seems absurd to classify Freddie's voice because he wasn't an opera singer. But if he would have been an opera singer and trained for it, he would be a baritone, because his speaking voice had the colour of a baritone's one; I'd like to mention that I have vocal lessons, my parents are both opera singers and my father vocal teacher; my mother sang with Luciano Pavarotti, Placido Domingo, José Carreras, she met Montserrat Caballé once, she is very famous in Japan, Russia and Ukraine and famous in Europe; here is her website: www.victoria-loukianetz.com. If my parents say Freddie was a baritone - are they wrong?
I don't like to argue - I am a person who likes 'peace' -, but I hope very much this problem will be resolved. It is a great pity that Brian did not answer me; it is likely that he will not answer at all - or maybe only, if everybody of us writes to him... But if he will not write back, then there will be the question: how this problem can be resolved?[/QUOTE]
Freddie's speaking voice much like his singing voice changed from decade to decade.
Your parents most likely listened to the 80s Freddie, when his voice color did change, and sounded deeper.
But if you listen to Freddie speak AND sing in the 70s, he had a tenor voice.
And also, you can't determine a person's singing voice just by his speaking voice. The speaking and singing voice are two different voices.
No baritone can sing Bohemian Rhapsody. If they are baritone, they cannot sing above middle F. Queen songs were not written for Baritones. All of their songs are written for Tenors. A Baritone like Harry Connick Jr can NEVER EVER sing a Queen song without changing the key.
Do you realize that you are disagreeing with "daria k" by stating your opinion that Freddie had a tenor voice?
"daria k" has stated in the past that only a classically trained singer like Monserrat Caballe is qualified to classify Freddie Mercury's voice. Monserrat has classified Freddie Mercury's voice as a baritone.
On the contrary, I believe that Brian May, Roger Taylor, and John Deacon are more qualified than Monserrat to know Freddie's voice best, since they have spent 20+ years recording, writing, performing with him. Not only that, but they are also brilliant musicians, songwriters, and vocalists. They are the ones who know Freddie's voice the best.
And I believe that they will all unanimously state that Freddie was a TENOR without question. A baritone voice could not have sung Bohemian Rhapsody, White Queen, March of the Black Queen, Save Me, or other countless Queen songs that were written for a Tenor voice.
I hope that Brian May can clear this up, and will respond to the questions raised.
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Every baritone can try sing Bohemian Rhapsody, White Queen etc. with falcetto/'head voice' - but than the question would occur: 'Will it be the SAME Bohemian Rhapsody'...
It is true: like rosedewitt said, it is seems absurd to classify Freddie's voice because he wasn't an opera singer. But if he would have been an opera singer and trained for it, he would be a baritone, because his speaking voice had the colour of a baritone's one; I'd like to mention that I have vocal lessons, my parents are both opera singers and my father vocal teacher; my mother sang with Luciano Pavarotti, Placido Domingo, José Carreras, she met Montserrat Caballé once, she is very famous in Japan, Russia and Ukraine and famous in Europe; here is her website: www.victoria-loukianetz.com. If my parents say Freddie was a baritone - are they wrong?
I don't like to argue - I am a person who likes 'peace' -, but I hope very much this problem will be resolved. It is a great pity that Brian did not answer me; it is likely that he will not answer at all - or maybe only, if everybody of us writes to him... But if he will not write back, then there will be the question: how this problem can be resolved?[/QUOTE]
Freddie's speaking voice much like his singing voice changed from decade to decade.
Your parents most likely listened to the 80s Freddie, when his voice color did change, and sounded deeper.
But if you listen to Freddie speak AND sing in the 70s, he had a tenor voice.
And also, you can't determine a person's singing voice just by his speaking voice. The speaking and singing voice are two different voices.
No baritone can sing Bohemian Rhapsody. If they are baritone, they cannot sing above middle F. Queen songs were not written for Baritones. All of their songs are written for Tenors. A Baritone like Harry Connick Jr can NEVER EVER sing a Queen song without changing the key.
And your parents can't possibly know enough of Freddie's voice to classify his voice.
They never met Freddie, did they? They only know of his through his recorded songs, and interviews.
I'm quite positive that Freddie was a Tenor. That is why I would love to hear Brian May's opinion. I think Brian would know, and please do not say that he is not qualified. Brian May is a musical genius. I think he'd know something about singing, and voices....
And I hope that everyone will keep writing to Brian May! If he doesn't respond, keep trying!
Thanks!
They never met Freddie, did they? They only know of his through his recorded songs, and interviews.
I'm quite positive that Freddie was a Tenor. That is why I would love to hear Brian May's opinion. I think Brian would know, and please do not say that he is not qualified. Brian May is a musical genius. I think he'd know something about singing, and voices....
And I hope that everyone will keep writing to Brian May! If he doesn't respond, keep trying!
Thanks!
I just like to say that my parents indeed listened to the 70s Freddie (music and speaking voice) and to a 1976 interview...
I hope Brian will reply so we can know the final truth:)
I hope Brian will reply so we can know the final truth:)
God, this is getting lame.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]SomebodyWhoLoves wrote: [/QUOTENAME]No no no. It does matter. Even in pop/rock, there are tenor, baritone, and bass voices.
A voice is a voice, whether it is rock, pop, or opera. And therefore, you can classify rock/pop voices as either Tenor, Baritone, Bass, Sprano, or Alto.
For example, Madonna is an Alto. Britney Spears is an Alto. Mariah Carey is a Soprano.
A good example of a baritone in pop/rock is Harry Connick Jr.
Freddie Mercury is in my opinion, a tenor.
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no no you're wrong. especially at female voices you can't put them into categories, because most of the rock/pop singers are belting, that technique doesn't exist at classical singing. so when a woman is belting, like madonna, how can you say she's a soprano or alto? it's impossible. you can only guess if she would sing classical she would might be an alto, but you can't be sure.
A voice is a voice, whether it is rock, pop, or opera. And therefore, you can classify rock/pop voices as either Tenor, Baritone, Bass, Sprano, or Alto.
For example, Madonna is an Alto. Britney Spears is an Alto. Mariah Carey is a Soprano.
A good example of a baritone in pop/rock is Harry Connick Jr.
Freddie Mercury is in my opinion, a tenor.
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no no you're wrong. especially at female voices you can't put them into categories, because most of the rock/pop singers are belting, that technique doesn't exist at classical singing. so when a woman is belting, like madonna, how can you say she's a soprano or alto? it's impossible. you can only guess if she would sing classical she would might be an alto, but you can't be sure.
"No baritone can sing Bohemian Rhapsody. If they are baritone, they cannot sing above middle F. Queen songs were not written for Baritones. All of their songs are written for Tenors. A Baritone like Harry Connick Jr can NEVER EVER sing a Queen song without changing the key."
Nonsense. Baritones, even in operatic academic singing, can sing up to a Middle A, two notes short of a High C.
A high F or High E is the top note, usually, for basses, not baritones.
And I've known several baritonic voices hitting High C's, even that's not the regular tesitura.
Do you sing, by any chance? Or are you just quoting (or missquoting) Wikipedia?
The same way there are several types of tenors (the dramatic ones who can't sing above Middle B (one short note of the High C), to the light, lyrical tenors who can sing up to the High E or High F (and I'm talking opera here, check I Puritani or Le postillon de Lonjumeau, for High Eb's and High F's for Tenors), there are several types of baritones. Those who can sing down to a low G or low F#, and those who can sing up to an High A, and those, my friend, are the most common baritones, from Low A to High A, but with a slightly darker tone and vocal colour than tenors)
Most baritones cant sing those songs, LIKE a true tenor would, but no tenor could sing Bo Rhap's low harmonies, Ride the Wild Wind, or Slightly Mad like a true baritone would.
Nonsense. Baritones, even in operatic academic singing, can sing up to a Middle A, two notes short of a High C.
A high F or High E is the top note, usually, for basses, not baritones.
And I've known several baritonic voices hitting High C's, even that's not the regular tesitura.
Do you sing, by any chance? Or are you just quoting (or missquoting) Wikipedia?
The same way there are several types of tenors (the dramatic ones who can't sing above Middle B (one short note of the High C), to the light, lyrical tenors who can sing up to the High E or High F (and I'm talking opera here, check I Puritani or Le postillon de Lonjumeau, for High Eb's and High F's for Tenors), there are several types of baritones. Those who can sing down to a low G or low F#, and those who can sing up to an High A, and those, my friend, are the most common baritones, from Low A to High A, but with a slightly darker tone and vocal colour than tenors)
Most baritones cant sing those songs, LIKE a true tenor would, but no tenor could sing Bo Rhap's low harmonies, Ride the Wild Wind, or Slightly Mad like a true baritone would.
Nonsense?
IT is NOT nonsense. Some baritones may be able to hit the A below High C, but Freddie in the 70s can hit C easily.
No Baritone can sing Bohemian Rhapsody like Freddie can. Only a lyrical tenor can, which Freddie was. No Baritone can sing White Queen, Black Queen or any of the 70's Queen Songs like Freddie did. Because Freddie is not a Baritone.
Unless you can find the average Baritone who can hit an A, then you are also wrong about the average Baritone Range.
Baritones generally sing up to an F. An exception here or there, doesn't count.
Why do you people insist on calling Freddie a Baritone?
IT is NOT nonsense. Some baritones may be able to hit the A below High C, but Freddie in the 70s can hit C easily.
No Baritone can sing Bohemian Rhapsody like Freddie can. Only a lyrical tenor can, which Freddie was. No Baritone can sing White Queen, Black Queen or any of the 70's Queen Songs like Freddie did. Because Freddie is not a Baritone.
Unless you can find the average Baritone who can hit an A, then you are also wrong about the average Baritone Range.
Baritones generally sing up to an F. An exception here or there, doesn't count.
Why do you people insist on calling Freddie a Baritone?
I'd say he was more a tenor but really who cares.
He was a gifted singer with less than stellar technique.
If he had been a trained singer than the answer would be clearer but he wasn't.
At least he was talented enough to leave us with rock/pop songs sung by a voice almost unrivalled in rock/pop music.
He was a gifted singer with less than stellar technique.
If he had been a trained singer than the answer would be clearer but he wasn't.
At least he was talented enough to leave us with rock/pop songs sung by a voice almost unrivalled in rock/pop music.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]SomebodyWhoLoves wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Nonsense?
IT is NOT nonsense. Some baritones may be able to hit the A below High C, but Freddie in the 70s can hit C easily.
No Baritone can sing Bohemian Rhapsody like Freddie can. Only a lyrical tenor can, which Freddie was. No Baritone can sing White Queen, Black Queen or any of the 70's Queen Songs like Freddie did. Because Freddie is not a Baritone.
Unless you can find the average Baritone who can hit an A, then you are also wrong about the average Baritone Range.
Baritones generally sing up to an F. An exception here or there, doesn't count.
Why do you people insist on calling Freddie a Baritone?
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Only darker baritones, so called bassbaritons, can sing up to a F. Most Baritones, with the proper technique, sing up to an Ab and A.
Those are the rule, not the exception.
You believe he wasn't a baritone, because you don't seem to understand the baritonic voice. Middle F is the top note for Basses and Bassbaritons, not Baritones.
IT is NOT nonsense. Some baritones may be able to hit the A below High C, but Freddie in the 70s can hit C easily.
No Baritone can sing Bohemian Rhapsody like Freddie can. Only a lyrical tenor can, which Freddie was. No Baritone can sing White Queen, Black Queen or any of the 70's Queen Songs like Freddie did. Because Freddie is not a Baritone.
Unless you can find the average Baritone who can hit an A, then you are also wrong about the average Baritone Range.
Baritones generally sing up to an F. An exception here or there, doesn't count.
Why do you people insist on calling Freddie a Baritone?
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Only darker baritones, so called bassbaritons, can sing up to a F. Most Baritones, with the proper technique, sing up to an Ab and A.
Those are the rule, not the exception.
You believe he wasn't a baritone, because you don't seem to understand the baritonic voice. Middle F is the top note for Basses and Bassbaritons, not Baritones.
I prefer Bariten.
I've email Brian about this a few weeks ago, just to get his opinion, he hasn't replied yet.
You can tell Freddie's a Baritone by listening to his LIVE performances, not by albums.
I'm a baritone, and I can sing BoRhap. Not Freddie-like, but I can easily hit the same notes.
I've email Brian about this a few weeks ago, just to get his opinion, he hasn't replied yet.
You can tell Freddie's a Baritone by listening to his LIVE performances, not by albums.
I'm a baritone, and I can sing BoRhap. Not Freddie-like, but I can easily hit the same notes.
RANGE = TENOR
VOICE = TENOR
THAT'S ALL
FUCK OFF
VOICE = TENOR
THAT'S ALL
FUCK OFF
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]M a t i a s M a y<h6><i>QZ's Rainmaker wrote: [/QUOTENAME]RANGE = TENOR
VOICE = TENOR
THAT'S ALL
FUCK OFF[/QUOTE]
somebody doesnt want freddie to be a baritone ;-P
VOICE = TENOR
THAT'S ALL
FUCK OFF[/QUOTE]
somebody doesnt want freddie to be a baritone ;-P
he is a tenor, that's it!
I hope Brian never answers this question. XD