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see thats the other thing. her parents are kinda in the same spot i am. shes been in the psych ward a couple times, the hospital a few times and she is bi-polar. she has eating disorders and she cuts herself. its sad to watch but we argued about it and she just wants to be unhappy. its all she knows. now its up to her really to figure things out. people have tried. ive tried several times to help her and so have her friends.
her parents on the other hand are also irrational when it comes to her desisions. she is in a way a spolit brat but at the same time her parents are rather uncaring about it or as i said 'irrational'. they put her down instead of trying to help her when she fucks up. that is wrong. she doesnt need that.
and as sonia said there are people who want to be miserable. and in this case and mjost of my friends's cases its true. its a cry for attention. but this friend is really fucked up. i want to help, but at the same time ive helped for so long and she just doesnt care or listen.
i believe the only thing i can do as someone said, is self preservation. i may just have to keep her out of my life to keep her from sucking me into bad things. its sad to watch and hurts me to do it but at this point its all i can do. ive put all kinds of effort (by not lecturing or insulting her) in telling her how i feel and trying to help, but trying and not succeeding is exhausting.
everyones aware of whats shes doing but shes too stubborn to budge. unless someone cuffs her and puts her in the psych ward again and this time untill shes cured thers nothing we can do :(
shes made so many problems on it its to a point where shes gotta hit rock bottom and learn herself. so i guess i gotta sit back and watch and be there for her when she figures it out.
her parents on the other hand are also irrational when it comes to her desisions. she is in a way a spolit brat but at the same time her parents are rather uncaring about it or as i said 'irrational'. they put her down instead of trying to help her when she fucks up. that is wrong. she doesnt need that.
and as sonia said there are people who want to be miserable. and in this case and mjost of my friends's cases its true. its a cry for attention. but this friend is really fucked up. i want to help, but at the same time ive helped for so long and she just doesnt care or listen.
i believe the only thing i can do as someone said, is self preservation. i may just have to keep her out of my life to keep her from sucking me into bad things. its sad to watch and hurts me to do it but at this point its all i can do. ive put all kinds of effort (by not lecturing or insulting her) in telling her how i feel and trying to help, but trying and not succeeding is exhausting.
everyones aware of whats shes doing but shes too stubborn to budge. unless someone cuffs her and puts her in the psych ward again and this time untill shes cured thers nothing we can do :(
shes made so many problems on it its to a point where shes gotta hit rock bottom and learn herself. so i guess i gotta sit back and watch and be there for her when she figures it out.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]sparrow[/QUOTENAME]
something is bothering me....[/QUOTE]
A lot of things are bothering me, but I don't go 'round claiming webspace for them, do I now?
something is bothering me....[/QUOTE]
A lot of things are bothering me, but I don't go 'round claiming webspace for them, do I now?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]sparrow[/QUOTENAME]
something is bothering me....[/QUOTE]
A lot of things are bothering me, but I don't go 'round claiming webspace for them, do I now?[/QUOTE]
....nobody asked you. if you have nothing useful to say to this then dont bother wasting your time to post here.
sure theres plenty im angry at or frustrated, but this is a rare occasion for me to do this, nor would i normally post something not worth most peoples time. im not a spammer, nor do i whine about my lame-ass everyday problems. so shut your mouth. im allowed to ask for help once in a while just as much as anyone else. im not harming anyone.
QZ is just some outside opinions for me, if that bothers you for some reason, as i said, dont waste your time or mine posting here.
well anyway, thanks guys, i think i know that the best thing for me to do (since i told her all i could) is to leave her to learn. it saddens me to do it, but as (i think) donna said, i shouldnt have that kind of resposibility, and i agree. i shouldnt exhaust myself for her expense (in which she wouldnt bother budging anyway). its been happening for far too long and i dont want to deal with her anymore. hopefully soon shell learn.
something is bothering me....[/QUOTE]
A lot of things are bothering me, but I don't go 'round claiming webspace for them, do I now?[/QUOTE]
....nobody asked you. if you have nothing useful to say to this then dont bother wasting your time to post here.
sure theres plenty im angry at or frustrated, but this is a rare occasion for me to do this, nor would i normally post something not worth most peoples time. im not a spammer, nor do i whine about my lame-ass everyday problems. so shut your mouth. im allowed to ask for help once in a while just as much as anyone else. im not harming anyone.
QZ is just some outside opinions for me, if that bothers you for some reason, as i said, dont waste your time or mine posting here.
well anyway, thanks guys, i think i know that the best thing for me to do (since i told her all i could) is to leave her to learn. it saddens me to do it, but as (i think) donna said, i shouldnt have that kind of resposibility, and i agree. i shouldnt exhaust myself for her expense (in which she wouldnt bother budging anyway). its been happening for far too long and i dont want to deal with her anymore. hopefully soon shell learn.
Tell her to stop being so fucking emo.
You know, if this were 5 years ago I could have sworn it was me writing about my sister. We had her in and out of psych wards too. And to be honest, while you may think her parents are being irrational, it's more likely they are just lost. They don't know what to do, because nothing they've tried seems to be helping. I know, that's what happend with my parents and my sister.
In the end, Ashely had to decide for herself that she was sick of acting the way she was (she was drinking heavily and cutting herself as well). Mom and Dad were always there to help, but they didn't know what else they could do. There was a while there where we were all sure she was going to kill herself with this behavior. Eventually, she had a "lightbulb" moment. She was riding somewhere with Mom, turned to look at her and said, "Mom, I need help. I don't want to be like this anymore." That was all she needed to accept. We took her back to the psych ward where she'd been before (the doctor there wanted her to come back when she was ready for treatment) and she was there for about two weeks while they put her on medication and counseled her.
Today, she's back to normal. She takes her meds regularly, got her diploma and a nurse's assisstant certification, and is holding down a good paying job (more than what I make!) as a nurse's aid in a medical care facility for older adults and other disabled people. She's got wonderful friends and has really turned things around.
What's the point in all of this? My sister made the decision to change. Your friend needs to make the decision to change. However, you need to realize you can't make her do that, neither can her parents, and you may need to start accepting the fact that she doesn't want to make it. If she doesn't, you need to cut your losses and move on. Holding on is only going to extend the pain (trust me, I know this one).
If you've told her parents about the drug use and everything else, there isn't much else you can do.
BTW...you said earlier that most of your friends are like this. Why? It may be time to evaluate your circle of friends. It's possible you are hanging with them because it makes you feel better to provide them with the sense of security and love that they need, but you run a very great risk to yourself in doing so. It sounds like you are a very caring, giving person. But you may also have some self esteem issues that make you crave this type of idea where you need to feel needed by others to feel good about yourself. That isn't healthy.
Just a thought. I hope it's not taken as an insult, because it isn't meant to be one.
In the end, Ashely had to decide for herself that she was sick of acting the way she was (she was drinking heavily and cutting herself as well). Mom and Dad were always there to help, but they didn't know what else they could do. There was a while there where we were all sure she was going to kill herself with this behavior. Eventually, she had a "lightbulb" moment. She was riding somewhere with Mom, turned to look at her and said, "Mom, I need help. I don't want to be like this anymore." That was all she needed to accept. We took her back to the psych ward where she'd been before (the doctor there wanted her to come back when she was ready for treatment) and she was there for about two weeks while they put her on medication and counseled her.
Today, she's back to normal. She takes her meds regularly, got her diploma and a nurse's assisstant certification, and is holding down a good paying job (more than what I make!) as a nurse's aid in a medical care facility for older adults and other disabled people. She's got wonderful friends and has really turned things around.
What's the point in all of this? My sister made the decision to change. Your friend needs to make the decision to change. However, you need to realize you can't make her do that, neither can her parents, and you may need to start accepting the fact that she doesn't want to make it. If she doesn't, you need to cut your losses and move on. Holding on is only going to extend the pain (trust me, I know this one).
If you've told her parents about the drug use and everything else, there isn't much else you can do.
BTW...you said earlier that most of your friends are like this. Why? It may be time to evaluate your circle of friends. It's possible you are hanging with them because it makes you feel better to provide them with the sense of security and love that they need, but you run a very great risk to yourself in doing so. It sounds like you are a very caring, giving person. But you may also have some self esteem issues that make you crave this type of idea where you need to feel needed by others to feel good about yourself. That isn't healthy.
Just a thought. I hope it's not taken as an insult, because it isn't meant to be one.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sparrow wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]sparrow[/QUOTENAME]
something is bothering me....[/QUOTE]
A lot of things are bothering me, but I don't go 'round claiming webspace for them, do I now?[/QUOTE]
....nobody asked you. if you have nothing useful to say to this then dont bother wasting your time to post here.
sure theres plenty im angry at or frustrated, but this is a rare occasion for me to do this, nor would i normally post something not worth most peoples time. im not a spammer, nor do i whine about my lame-ass everyday problems. so shut your mouth. im allowed to ask for help once in a while just as much as anyone else. im not harming anyone.
QZ is just some outside opinions for me, if that bothers you for some reason, as i said, dont waste your time or mine posting here.
well anyway, thanks guys, i think i know that the best thing for me to do (since i told her all i could) is to leave her to learn. it saddens me to do it, but as (i think) donna said, i shouldnt have that kind of resposibility, and i agree. i shouldnt exhaust myself for her expense (in which she wouldnt bother budging anyway). its been happening for far too long and i dont want to deal with her anymore. hopefully soon shell learn.[/QUOTE]
Seriously! If you want serious help, QZ is NOT the place. The sensible people here are fewer than there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, and even if they WERE to be here, they'd have been infected by the raging stupidity here long ago. If you take your problem seriously, there are plenty of professionals whose JOB it is to help young people with problems. Approach THEM, THEY have a clue what they are dealing with, some anonymous morons (yes, I include myself) on a webboard don't.
something is bothering me....[/QUOTE]
A lot of things are bothering me, but I don't go 'round claiming webspace for them, do I now?[/QUOTE]
....nobody asked you. if you have nothing useful to say to this then dont bother wasting your time to post here.
sure theres plenty im angry at or frustrated, but this is a rare occasion for me to do this, nor would i normally post something not worth most peoples time. im not a spammer, nor do i whine about my lame-ass everyday problems. so shut your mouth. im allowed to ask for help once in a while just as much as anyone else. im not harming anyone.
QZ is just some outside opinions for me, if that bothers you for some reason, as i said, dont waste your time or mine posting here.
well anyway, thanks guys, i think i know that the best thing for me to do (since i told her all i could) is to leave her to learn. it saddens me to do it, but as (i think) donna said, i shouldnt have that kind of resposibility, and i agree. i shouldnt exhaust myself for her expense (in which she wouldnt bother budging anyway). its been happening for far too long and i dont want to deal with her anymore. hopefully soon shell learn.[/QUOTE]
Seriously! If you want serious help, QZ is NOT the place. The sensible people here are fewer than there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, and even if they WERE to be here, they'd have been infected by the raging stupidity here long ago. If you take your problem seriously, there are plenty of professionals whose JOB it is to help young people with problems. Approach THEM, THEY have a clue what they are dealing with, some anonymous morons (yes, I include myself) on a webboard don't.
Well said. ^
"...some anonymous morons (yes, I include myself) ..."
Thomas Quinn, you are not a moron! I think you need our advice - the doctor is in - 5 cents please.
Thomas Quinn, you are not a moron! I think you need our advice - the doctor is in - 5 cents please.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sparrow wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]sparrow[/QUOTENAME]
something is bothering me....[/QUOTE]
A lot of things are bothering me, but I don't go 'round claiming webspace for them, do I now?[/QUOTE]
....nobody asked you. if you have nothing useful to say to this then dont bother wasting your time to post here.
sure theres plenty im angry at or frustrated, but this is a rare occasion for me to do this, nor would i normally post something not worth most peoples time. im not a spammer, nor do i whine about my lame-ass everyday problems. so shut your mouth. im allowed to ask for help once in a while just as much as anyone else. im not harming anyone.
QZ is just some outside opinions for me, if that bothers you for some reason, as i said, dont waste your time or mine posting here.
well anyway, thanks guys, i think i know that the best thing for me to do (since i told her all i could) is to leave her to learn. it saddens me to do it, but as (i think) donna said, i shouldnt have that kind of resposibility, and i agree. i shouldnt exhaust myself for her expense (in which she wouldnt bother budging anyway). its been happening for far too long and i dont want to deal with her anymore. hopefully soon shell learn.[/QUOTE]
Seriously! If you want serious help, QZ is NOT the place. The sensible people here are fewer than there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, and even if they WERE to be here, they'd have been infected by the raging stupidity here long ago. If you take your problem seriously, there are plenty of professionals whose JOB it is to help young people with problems. Approach THEM, THEY have a clue what they are dealing with, some anonymous morons (yes, I include myself) on a webboard don't.[/QUOTE]
i understand that. but i do have friends here that i consider have good opnions and for the most part good heads on their shoulders.
ive dealt with counselors and psychologists in the past, and they so far have done nothing but either waste my time or just take my money, ive gotten no help from them so my solutions are to consult family or friends.
this isnt so much serious (well, a better word being severe) as it is just wanting an answer on whats best. i dont post the real horrible problems here :-p. and i can weed out the bad advice (microwave, youre one) i am not stupid, and believe it or not some (but few) people here arent either. i do take my friend seriously but only to a point. bi-polars in general just want attention and manipulate people (ive dealt with plenty, its left a bad taste) but since she is my best friend i for some odd reason see a difference. theres only so long you can give into their crap until youre exhausted and thats the point im at now. its my point to figure out what i think was the best advice given to me both by friends and family and the good advice here.
so i mean no offence caspar, but i still stick to my point before.
something is bothering me....[/QUOTE]
A lot of things are bothering me, but I don't go 'round claiming webspace for them, do I now?[/QUOTE]
....nobody asked you. if you have nothing useful to say to this then dont bother wasting your time to post here.
sure theres plenty im angry at or frustrated, but this is a rare occasion for me to do this, nor would i normally post something not worth most peoples time. im not a spammer, nor do i whine about my lame-ass everyday problems. so shut your mouth. im allowed to ask for help once in a while just as much as anyone else. im not harming anyone.
QZ is just some outside opinions for me, if that bothers you for some reason, as i said, dont waste your time or mine posting here.
well anyway, thanks guys, i think i know that the best thing for me to do (since i told her all i could) is to leave her to learn. it saddens me to do it, but as (i think) donna said, i shouldnt have that kind of resposibility, and i agree. i shouldnt exhaust myself for her expense (in which she wouldnt bother budging anyway). its been happening for far too long and i dont want to deal with her anymore. hopefully soon shell learn.[/QUOTE]
Seriously! If you want serious help, QZ is NOT the place. The sensible people here are fewer than there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, and even if they WERE to be here, they'd have been infected by the raging stupidity here long ago. If you take your problem seriously, there are plenty of professionals whose JOB it is to help young people with problems. Approach THEM, THEY have a clue what they are dealing with, some anonymous morons (yes, I include myself) on a webboard don't.[/QUOTE]
i understand that. but i do have friends here that i consider have good opnions and for the most part good heads on their shoulders.
ive dealt with counselors and psychologists in the past, and they so far have done nothing but either waste my time or just take my money, ive gotten no help from them so my solutions are to consult family or friends.
this isnt so much serious (well, a better word being severe) as it is just wanting an answer on whats best. i dont post the real horrible problems here :-p. and i can weed out the bad advice (microwave, youre one) i am not stupid, and believe it or not some (but few) people here arent either. i do take my friend seriously but only to a point. bi-polars in general just want attention and manipulate people (ive dealt with plenty, its left a bad taste) but since she is my best friend i for some odd reason see a difference. theres only so long you can give into their crap until youre exhausted and thats the point im at now. its my point to figure out what i think was the best advice given to me both by friends and family and the good advice here.
so i mean no offence caspar, but i still stick to my point before.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]CMU HistoryGirl wrote: [/QUOTENAME]You know, if this were 5 years ago I could have sworn it was me writing about my sister. We had her in and out of psych wards too. And to be honest, while you may think her parents are being irrational, it's more likely they are just lost. They don't know what to do, because nothing they've tried seems to be helping. I know, that's what happend with my parents and my sister.
In the end, Ashely had to decide for herself that she was sick of acting the way she was (she was drinking heavily and cutting herself as well). Mom and Dad were always there to help, but they didn't know what else they could do. There was a while there where we were all sure she was going to kill herself with this behavior. Eventually, she had a "lightbulb" moment. She was riding somewhere with Mom, turned to look at her and said, "Mom, I need help. I don't want to be like this anymore." That was all she needed to accept. We took her back to the psych ward where she'd been before (the doctor there wanted her to come back when she was ready for treatment) and she was there for about two weeks while they put her on medication and counseled her.
Today, she's back to normal. She takes her meds regularly, got her diploma and a nurse's assisstant certification, and is holding down a good paying job (more than what I make!) as a nurse's aid in a medical care facility for older adults and other disabled people. She's got wonderful friends and has really turned things around.
What's the point in all of this? My sister made the decision to change. Your friend needs to make the decision to change. However, you need to realize you can't make her do that, neither can her parents, and you may need to start accepting the fact that she doesn't want to make it. If she doesn't, you need to cut your losses and move on. Holding on is only going to extend the pain (trust me, I know this one).
If you've told her parents about the drug use and everything else, there isn't much else you can do.
BTW...you said earlier that most of your friends are like this. Why? It may be time to evaluate your circle of friends. It's possible you are hanging with them because it makes you feel better to provide them with the sense of security and love that they need, but you run a very great risk to yourself in doing so. It sounds like you are a very caring, giving person. But you may also have some self esteem issues that make you crave this type of idea where you need to feel needed by others to feel good about yourself. That isn't healthy.
Just a thought. I hope it's not taken as an insult, because it isn't meant to be one. [/QUOTE]
not at all. i know what you mean. i actually have a very high esteem of myself, its just a weird drive for me to help people. i get it from my dad :D. ive just been taught to be a benevolent person and i enjoy it for the most part, its rewarding to know i helped someone, it doesnt nessesarily make me happy.
but youre absolutly right. she needs what you said 'a lightbulb' moment. she needs to learn that she isnt helping anything by what shes doing. shes hurting people around her, and im sure her parents irrationality (the stories shes told me) are made up in her head. although her mom aint to sane either :P
she really is a good person when shes not like this. the person i met a few years ago was always amazing and caring, and so much fun to hang out with. but all i ever hear now is the same things and im just done with it. she goes into her phases and i cant keep up with it anymore.
i think ive done alright with it tho. as i said i havent fed into her s**t and i havent patronized or put her down, nor have i made her or tried to make her change. the best ive done was tell her the truth on what i think should be done, and point out ways to try and make things better. but yeah, she needs an epiphany.
yeah most of my friends to some d
In the end, Ashely had to decide for herself that she was sick of acting the way she was (she was drinking heavily and cutting herself as well). Mom and Dad were always there to help, but they didn't know what else they could do. There was a while there where we were all sure she was going to kill herself with this behavior. Eventually, she had a "lightbulb" moment. She was riding somewhere with Mom, turned to look at her and said, "Mom, I need help. I don't want to be like this anymore." That was all she needed to accept. We took her back to the psych ward where she'd been before (the doctor there wanted her to come back when she was ready for treatment) and she was there for about two weeks while they put her on medication and counseled her.
Today, she's back to normal. She takes her meds regularly, got her diploma and a nurse's assisstant certification, and is holding down a good paying job (more than what I make!) as a nurse's aid in a medical care facility for older adults and other disabled people. She's got wonderful friends and has really turned things around.
What's the point in all of this? My sister made the decision to change. Your friend needs to make the decision to change. However, you need to realize you can't make her do that, neither can her parents, and you may need to start accepting the fact that she doesn't want to make it. If she doesn't, you need to cut your losses and move on. Holding on is only going to extend the pain (trust me, I know this one).
If you've told her parents about the drug use and everything else, there isn't much else you can do.
BTW...you said earlier that most of your friends are like this. Why? It may be time to evaluate your circle of friends. It's possible you are hanging with them because it makes you feel better to provide them with the sense of security and love that they need, but you run a very great risk to yourself in doing so. It sounds like you are a very caring, giving person. But you may also have some self esteem issues that make you crave this type of idea where you need to feel needed by others to feel good about yourself. That isn't healthy.
Just a thought. I hope it's not taken as an insult, because it isn't meant to be one. [/QUOTE]
not at all. i know what you mean. i actually have a very high esteem of myself, its just a weird drive for me to help people. i get it from my dad :D. ive just been taught to be a benevolent person and i enjoy it for the most part, its rewarding to know i helped someone, it doesnt nessesarily make me happy.
but youre absolutly right. she needs what you said 'a lightbulb' moment. she needs to learn that she isnt helping anything by what shes doing. shes hurting people around her, and im sure her parents irrationality (the stories shes told me) are made up in her head. although her mom aint to sane either :P
she really is a good person when shes not like this. the person i met a few years ago was always amazing and caring, and so much fun to hang out with. but all i ever hear now is the same things and im just done with it. she goes into her phases and i cant keep up with it anymore.
i think ive done alright with it tho. as i said i havent fed into her s**t and i havent patronized or put her down, nor have i made her or tried to make her change. the best ive done was tell her the truth on what i think should be done, and point out ways to try and make things better. but yeah, she needs an epiphany.
yeah most of my friends to some d
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Donna13 wrote: [/QUOTENAME]"...some anonymous morons (yes, I include myself) ..."
Thomas Quinn, you are not a moron! I think you need our advice - the doctor is in - 5 cents please.[/QUOTE]
I've got a two for one deal going on!! You're in luck Sparrow.
I really don't know what emo is so I can't comment on that (I'm getting old) but since I deal with these situations for a living, I can tell you this.....you can't help someone unless they want your help. Period.
Here is some extra info for free....if your friend is over 18 and is in danger of hurting herself or others then someone (if she verbalizes she has a plan to do either), preferably a relative, needs to call 911, have her transmitted to the nearest ER and ask the Dr. to consider a 72 hour hold on her. If she is under 18, then her parents are responsible for tending to her emotional and physical well-being.
That is about all you really can do.
Thomas Quinn, you are not a moron! I think you need our advice - the doctor is in - 5 cents please.[/QUOTE]
I've got a two for one deal going on!! You're in luck Sparrow.
I really don't know what emo is so I can't comment on that (I'm getting old) but since I deal with these situations for a living, I can tell you this.....you can't help someone unless they want your help. Period.
Here is some extra info for free....if your friend is over 18 and is in danger of hurting herself or others then someone (if she verbalizes she has a plan to do either), preferably a relative, needs to call 911, have her transmitted to the nearest ER and ask the Dr. to consider a 72 hour hold on her. If she is under 18, then her parents are responsible for tending to her emotional and physical well-being.
That is about all you really can do.
I know this isn't much help...
But I think there are some people who feel they can't get attention any other way.
They feel they are worthless and no one will pay attention to them if they exist in a "healthy" state - and that acting "depressed" (which can very well be BEING depressed - not "faking it") is the only thing that will get people to pay attention to them and care about them.
I have know, and do know, some people like this. They don't want your help. Because all your "help" will do will be to turn them into an even more worthless person that no one will care about.
I don't have any good suggestions, except to be a good friend - praise and congratulate when they do something good from their talents. Compliment them.
If she listens to sad and depressing music, it might just feed into her sadness. I suggest replacing all her CDs with copies of "Just Keep Passing the Open Windows" and maybe "Don't Try Suicide" (depending on what you want to accomplish... *cough* *cough*). Of course, that's a joke. Kind of.
But I think there are some people who feel they can't get attention any other way.
They feel they are worthless and no one will pay attention to them if they exist in a "healthy" state - and that acting "depressed" (which can very well be BEING depressed - not "faking it") is the only thing that will get people to pay attention to them and care about them.
I have know, and do know, some people like this. They don't want your help. Because all your "help" will do will be to turn them into an even more worthless person that no one will care about.
I don't have any good suggestions, except to be a good friend - praise and congratulate when they do something good from their talents. Compliment them.
If she listens to sad and depressing music, it might just feed into her sadness. I suggest replacing all her CDs with copies of "Just Keep Passing the Open Windows" and maybe "Don't Try Suicide" (depending on what you want to accomplish... *cough* *cough*). Of course, that's a joke. Kind of.
[QUOTENAME]Lisser[/QUOTENAME]
1. Emo
Genre of softcore punk music that integrates unenthusiastic melodramatic 17 year olds who dont smile, high pitched overwrought lyrics and inaudible guitar rifts with tight wool sweaters, tighter jeans, itchy scarfs (even in the summer), ripped chucks with favorite bands signature, black square rimmed glasses, and ebony greasy unwashed hair that is required to cover at least 3/5 ths of the face at an angle.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=emo
Couldn't have said it better myself.
1. Emo
Genre of softcore punk music that integrates unenthusiastic melodramatic 17 year olds who dont smile, high pitched overwrought lyrics and inaudible guitar rifts with tight wool sweaters, tighter jeans, itchy scarfs (even in the summer), ripped chucks with favorite bands signature, black square rimmed glasses, and ebony greasy unwashed hair that is required to cover at least 3/5 ths of the face at an angle.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=emo
Couldn't have said it better myself.
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My son created this, in case you need a visual aid to go along with Thomas Quinn's definition.
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