Haystacks Calhounski
You are one insanely
STUPID
fuck.
I wanted you to know that
You see? That was your learned response to me simply posting an article that showed, quite plainly, that the man Pelosi was wanting to lead the intel commitee didn't know his stuff.
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An article that was slanted like hell. You should get a job with Der Sturmer, probably matches your views of objective news. Or do you find FOX to be slightly too liberally slanted for your liking?
CNN too conservative? Slanted? It was the truth. I didn't make it up.
Back to our point, by posting those truthful articles, that brands me a fascist? A moron? An insanely stupid fuck?
Amazing.
Back to our point, by posting those truthful articles, that brands me a fascist? A moron? An insanely stupid fuck?
Amazing.
*sigh*
how much longer till 2008?
anyway, even if we wanted to overthrow bush, it would the same concept with saddam in a sense.
so the only thing that can be said is the damage is done, theres nothing we can do and theres no turning back. no matter what move we make now its going to be wrong. the mistake started as bush going after saddam. thats shouldve been left alone and they shouldve stuck with the reason this war is happening, and stopping the terrorists. instead saddam was our distraction and now the terrorists are running rampant and theyre all over the place. noone is safe, and we arent the same world as when clinton was in office.
point being: wrong desisions were made by a monkey and thers no turning back unless theres a HUGE band-aid out there.
and for those who are non-american, its not as easy as it seems. you say 'hey! overthrow the government' well the democracy really is no more. we dont have a say-in anymore, and those who say we do, the first mistake was that bush found a way to weasel his way into the government. you werent here to see the circus, so hush! if it were up to me, bush wouldnt be in office, someone completely different would be in office and it wouldnt be any of the canidates that were there in 2000.
i think we need another FDR or something.
its tough being my age. meaning i can vote now but instead of choosing a canidate taht we think would be best, its picking the lesser evils. our voting generation is ruined. we wont know any better.
i know im rambling, but caspar, again, your points arent very vaild. its fine if you have opinion but you dont really know wahts going on here.
how much longer till 2008?
anyway, even if we wanted to overthrow bush, it would the same concept with saddam in a sense.
so the only thing that can be said is the damage is done, theres nothing we can do and theres no turning back. no matter what move we make now its going to be wrong. the mistake started as bush going after saddam. thats shouldve been left alone and they shouldve stuck with the reason this war is happening, and stopping the terrorists. instead saddam was our distraction and now the terrorists are running rampant and theyre all over the place. noone is safe, and we arent the same world as when clinton was in office.
point being: wrong desisions were made by a monkey and thers no turning back unless theres a HUGE band-aid out there.
and for those who are non-american, its not as easy as it seems. you say 'hey! overthrow the government' well the democracy really is no more. we dont have a say-in anymore, and those who say we do, the first mistake was that bush found a way to weasel his way into the government. you werent here to see the circus, so hush! if it were up to me, bush wouldnt be in office, someone completely different would be in office and it wouldnt be any of the canidates that were there in 2000.
i think we need another FDR or something.
its tough being my age. meaning i can vote now but instead of choosing a canidate taht we think would be best, its picking the lesser evils. our voting generation is ruined. we wont know any better.
i know im rambling, but caspar, again, your points arent very vaild. its fine if you have opinion but you dont really know wahts going on here.
There are certainly some very interesting views in this thread! I, myself, think Saddam deserved his death sentence.
But on the other hand, I think that Thomas Quinn has a very broad vocabulary, and he should write a book because it would really sell...
But on the other hand, I think that Thomas Quinn has a very broad vocabulary, and he should write a book because it would really sell...
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color = "crimson"> ThomasQuinn wrote: [/QUOTENAME]The US has degenerated from a superpower into a declining power, and has thus changed its attitude into that of a belligerent bully. The American people should be wise now, and reject their leaders. Bush is no democrat, and the people deserve better.[/QUOTE]
That's right. He's republican!
That's right. He's republican!
Bush must die.
Eventually.
In like... 30+ years?
Eventually.
In like... 30+ years?
I sometimes wonder if TQ actually knows what fascism is...
Either way, I do believe that TQ has the better argument, but he argues it in such a hypocritical, ad-hominem way that it's nearly impossible to take him seriously.
Either way, I do believe that TQ has the better argument, but he argues it in such a hypocritical, ad-hominem way that it's nearly impossible to take him seriously.
He makes no argument....
Just a statement, followed by a string of epithets that would make the Pope blush.
It is one thing to have an opinion, another to be a zealot about it.
Just a statement, followed by a string of epithets that would make the Pope blush.
It is one thing to have an opinion, another to be a zealot about it.
Oh come on now, Caspar. This isn't news. My government has been guilty of war crimes since the beginning of the invasion into Iraq. This is just more fuel in the fire, and the government still won't get tried for it.
You make a point about the decline into a beligerant bully. Anyone who has studied history has seen the way the Roman Empire became more and more aggressive as their empire began falling apart: It was a last ditch effort to hold onto control, that only drove the entire system into the ground.
And people say history doesn't repeat itself.
You make a point about the decline into a beligerant bully. Anyone who has studied history has seen the way the Roman Empire became more and more aggressive as their empire began falling apart: It was a last ditch effort to hold onto control, that only drove the entire system into the ground.
And people say history doesn't repeat itself.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Haystacks Calhounski wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Penetration_Guru wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Haystacks Calhounski wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Extremists are bad. On all sides. Including you.
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I agree that extremists are bad, but how is he one for pointing out a technical accuracy?[/QUOTE]
Do you not pay attention to what he writes? I say something to disagree with his ultra left rants, and I am branded a fascist.
If that is not extreme, I don't know what is.[/QUOTE]
Yes I can read thanks. You usually can too, but have not noticed that you yourself were not branded a fascist, the regime in which you live is. And the US' ultra right wing (there, I said it) control of the media COULD be said to border on the fascistic.
Extremists are bad. On all sides. Including you.
[/QUOTE]
I agree that extremists are bad, but how is he one for pointing out a technical accuracy?[/QUOTE]
Do you not pay attention to what he writes? I say something to disagree with his ultra left rants, and I am branded a fascist.
If that is not extreme, I don't know what is.[/QUOTE]
Yes I can read thanks. You usually can too, but have not noticed that you yourself were not branded a fascist, the regime in which you live is. And the US' ultra right wing (there, I said it) control of the media COULD be said to border on the fascistic.
you're right, TQ. the US gov't is really guilty for most war crimes now. had they not invaded Iraq or even masked their invasion as "bringing peace to Iraq", everything would still be peaceful. there is something wrong with bush... thankfully he's outta there by 2008. sure, saddam's a bad man, but bush is as bad himself. i think he should be tried for committing war crimes. the world authorities haven't "arrested" or reprimanded him probably because... well, i don't know. but i think they're too chicken.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]CMU HistoryGirl wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
And people say history doesn't repeat itself. [/QUOTE]
No they don't. It's a well-known, commonly accepted fact that history repeats itself, now.
Edit: On topic, TQ is right. The US has violated so-and-so by such-and-such. However, his following words are quite senseless, even from the get go. A correlation between supporting Bush and denying the Holocaust? I see...
Anyway, being the leader of the most powerful nation in the world, I don't think that Bush is going to suffer the wrath of international justice any time soon. I mean, seriously, no one really ever gets tried for war crimes until AFTER their party/affiliation/etc. is out of power/ostracizes them. And I'm fairly sure that the United States will retain a good lot of its power until long after he's already dead anyway.
I'm not saying this is good or bad, I'm just saying there's no use worrying about it. What will be will be.
And people say history doesn't repeat itself. [/QUOTE]
No they don't. It's a well-known, commonly accepted fact that history repeats itself, now.
Edit: On topic, TQ is right. The US has violated so-and-so by such-and-such. However, his following words are quite senseless, even from the get go. A correlation between supporting Bush and denying the Holocaust? I see...
Anyway, being the leader of the most powerful nation in the world, I don't think that Bush is going to suffer the wrath of international justice any time soon. I mean, seriously, no one really ever gets tried for war crimes until AFTER their party/affiliation/etc. is out of power/ostracizes them. And I'm fairly sure that the United States will retain a good lot of its power until long after he's already dead anyway.
I'm not saying this is good or bad, I'm just saying there's no use worrying about it. What will be will be.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]CMU HistoryGirl wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
And people say history doesn't repeat itself. [/QUOTE]
No they don't. It's a well-known, commonly accepted fact that history repeats itself, now.
Apparantly you've never met the history prof I work under at CMU...he's adamant that it doesn't.
And I've heard people say before that it doesn't, but they are full of crap
:-)
And people say history doesn't repeat itself. [/QUOTE]
No they don't. It's a well-known, commonly accepted fact that history repeats itself, now.
Apparantly you've never met the history prof I work under at CMU...he's adamant that it doesn't.
And I've heard people say before that it doesn't, but they are full of crap
:-)
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]CMU HistoryGirl wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]CMU HistoryGirl wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
And people say history doesn't repeat itself. [/QUOTE]
No they don't. It's a well-known, commonly accepted fact that history repeats itself, now.[/QUOTE]
Apparantly you've never met the history prof I work under at CMU...he's adamant that it doesn't.
And I've heard people say before that it doesn't, but they are full of crap
:-)[/QUOTE]
Haha, very true. Well, technically, history does not literally repeat itself...otherwise it wouldn't be "history." But the basic themes of human nature will always present themselves until the end of our very existence.
And people say history doesn't repeat itself. [/QUOTE]
No they don't. It's a well-known, commonly accepted fact that history repeats itself, now.[/QUOTE]
Apparantly you've never met the history prof I work under at CMU...he's adamant that it doesn't.
And I've heard people say before that it doesn't, but they are full of crap
:-)[/QUOTE]
Haha, very true. Well, technically, history does not literally repeat itself...otherwise it wouldn't be "history." But the basic themes of human nature will always present themselves until the end of our very existence.