Thanks a lot.
I only have mp3 sourced, so this is an upgrade. :-)
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Ginger..thank's a lot..hear you soon I guess!
I agree with you Bob and Dr3amsl33p...lineage is very important and should always be included if information is there, I always do my best on my website when it comes to lineage about my recordings.
I wouldn't entirely blame collectors - how many different bootleg titles are Hammersmith, Mannheim & Rainbow on?
Then there are the compilation bootlegs....Tutti Frutti & Ogre Battle together at last on one disc!
Then there are the compilation bootlegs....Tutti Frutti & Ogre Battle together at last on one disc!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Penetration_Guru wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I wouldn't entirely blame collectors - how many different bootleg titles are Hammersmith, Mannheim & Rainbow on?[/QUOTE]
A fair point. But still, if these versions are shared here, they should be properly labeled, which most of the time they are not. How many times have we seen "Announce - Hammersmith 75 mp3" here? That could have come from a silver cd, video, or someone's tape of the umpteenth radio broadcast.
If we have a definitive list of the silvers including audio samples to listen to, one would know whether or not something is an obsolete version and thus if it's worth acquiring. But for Hammersmith, it needs to become known that there is no single source with the complete show, so the definitive version of this show would have to be a compilation - one that everyone would be aware of and want to have. And if an upgrade came out, then everyone would find out, and then a new compilation would be made, which everyone would get. This is the kind of communication we need to have together.
[QUOTE]Then there are the compilation bootlegs....Tutti Frutti & Ogre Battle together at last on one disc![/QUOTE]
I think I can speak on behalf of the majority and say we want to have the most complete recording of each show. Therefore, most compilations can easily be weeded out and labeled as obsolete. Most silver bootlegs aren't any decent anyway, so the bulk of the work we're going to do is organize the tapes that have come from private collections... not the silvers. The silvers will be the easy part!
A fair point. But still, if these versions are shared here, they should be properly labeled, which most of the time they are not. How many times have we seen "Announce - Hammersmith 75 mp3" here? That could have come from a silver cd, video, or someone's tape of the umpteenth radio broadcast.
If we have a definitive list of the silvers including audio samples to listen to, one would know whether or not something is an obsolete version and thus if it's worth acquiring. But for Hammersmith, it needs to become known that there is no single source with the complete show, so the definitive version of this show would have to be a compilation - one that everyone would be aware of and want to have. And if an upgrade came out, then everyone would find out, and then a new compilation would be made, which everyone would get. This is the kind of communication we need to have together.
[QUOTE]Then there are the compilation bootlegs....Tutti Frutti & Ogre Battle together at last on one disc![/QUOTE]
I think I can speak on behalf of the majority and say we want to have the most complete recording of each show. Therefore, most compilations can easily be weeded out and labeled as obsolete. Most silver bootlegs aren't any decent anyway, so the bulk of the work we're going to do is organize the tapes that have come from private collections... not the silvers. The silvers will be the easy part!
Ginger - Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
SirGH - I look forward to your website and hope I'm able to contribute something - anything - to the Queen collecting community. Gonna eventually have to unpack and sort through my boxes of Queen stuff I've been hauling around for about 20 years now...
SirGH - I look forward to your website and hope I'm able to contribute something - anything - to the Queen collecting community. Gonna eventually have to unpack and sort through my boxes of Queen stuff I've been hauling around for about 20 years now...
Thanks Ginger. Not time to read all the info in the posts now, catch up later though. Looks very interesting.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]slithybill wrote: [/QUOTENAME]SirGH - I look forward to your website and hope I'm able to contribute something - anything - to the Queen collecting community. Gonna eventually have to unpack and sort through my boxes of Queen stuff I've been hauling around for about 20 years now...[/QUOTE]
Thanks for posting. Actually, if you could send me an email, that'd be great... bobw_22 at hotmail.com
Thanks for posting. Actually, if you could send me an email, that'd be great... bobw_22 at hotmail.com
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]dammatt wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Thanks Ginger. Not time to read all the info in the posts now, catch up later though. Looks very interesting.[/QUOTE]
Please send me an email also at fmercury74@gmail.com
Please send me an email also at fmercury74@gmail.com
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]slithybill wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
SirGH - I look forward to your website and hope I'm able to contribute something - anything - to the Queen collecting community. Gonna eventually have to unpack and sort through my boxes of Queen stuff I've been hauling around for about 20 years now...
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This sounds great!
SirGH - I look forward to your website and hope I'm able to contribute something - anything - to the Queen collecting community. Gonna eventually have to unpack and sort through my boxes of Queen stuff I've been hauling around for about 20 years now...
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This sounds great!
THANKS GINGER !
this is brilliant, but could you or Bob (Sir GH) or anyone else tell me according to Greg Brooks Queen Live updated book the first show at the Uris Theatre included 5 other songs missing from this post including white Queen and Hangman, any thoughts ?
this is brilliant, but could you or Bob (Sir GH) or anyone else tell me according to Greg Brooks Queen Live updated book the first show at the Uris Theatre included 5 other songs missing from this post including white Queen and Hangman, any thoughts ?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]im_on_the_wembley_dvd wrote: [/QUOTENAME]THANKS GINGER !
this is brilliant, but could you or Bob (Sir GH) or anyone else tell me according to Greg Brooks Queen Live updated book the first show at the Uris Theatre included 5 other songs missing from this post including white Queen and Hangman, any thoughts ?
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I've always been the under the impression that this is the complete show, and unless more songs from this emerge I will go with that.
With the greatest respect, Queen Live is littered with errors and is not always the best reference tool.
I'd just like to go back to the collecting discussion; with regards to lineage - I agree with the need for full details to made available, but it's not just here that it is a problem. When Sao Paulo 81, Paris 84 and Berlin 86 were shared on Dimeadozen, lineage was not available there either....whenever I have traded I have always tried to ensure lineage details are shared as and when possible, but with those shows it is impossible to do so (and thus could make future trades difficult).
this is brilliant, but could you or Bob (Sir GH) or anyone else tell me according to Greg Brooks Queen Live updated book the first show at the Uris Theatre included 5 other songs missing from this post including white Queen and Hangman, any thoughts ?
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I've always been the under the impression that this is the complete show, and unless more songs from this emerge I will go with that.
With the greatest respect, Queen Live is littered with errors and is not always the best reference tool.
I'd just like to go back to the collecting discussion; with regards to lineage - I agree with the need for full details to made available, but it's not just here that it is a problem. When Sao Paulo 81, Paris 84 and Berlin 86 were shared on Dimeadozen, lineage was not available there either....whenever I have traded I have always tried to ensure lineage details are shared as and when possible, but with those shows it is impossible to do so (and thus could make future trades difficult).
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]im_on_the_wembley_dvd wrote: [/QUOTENAME]this is brilliant, but could you or Bob (Sir GH) or anyone else tell me according to Greg Brooks Queen Live updated book the first show at the Uris Theatre included 5 other songs missing from this post including white Queen and Hangman, any thoughts ?
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Those setlists are all wrong. In fact, about half of the 70s setlists are wrong in that book. Don't get me going on it!!
As for this particular recording, we're sticking with May 7 as the date, because it has circulated as that date for over 15 years now. When someone who knows better comes along, then we will reconsider if need be. Sometimes you just have to go with "tradition", so to speak.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=maroon>bitesthedust wrote: [/QUOTENAME]but it's not just here that it is a problem. When Sao Paulo 81, Paris 84 and Berlin 86 were shared on Dimeadozen, lineage was not available there either....[/QUOTE]
Of course, you can't have lineage for every possible recording. But the difference between Dime/TTD and QZ is that most people on QZ don't even know what lineage means.
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Those setlists are all wrong. In fact, about half of the 70s setlists are wrong in that book. Don't get me going on it!!
As for this particular recording, we're sticking with May 7 as the date, because it has circulated as that date for over 15 years now. When someone who knows better comes along, then we will reconsider if need be. Sometimes you just have to go with "tradition", so to speak.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<font color=maroon>bitesthedust wrote: [/QUOTENAME]but it's not just here that it is a problem. When Sao Paulo 81, Paris 84 and Berlin 86 were shared on Dimeadozen, lineage was not available there either....[/QUOTE]
Of course, you can't have lineage for every possible recording. But the difference between Dime/TTD and QZ is that most people on QZ don't even know what lineage means.
WOW, can't believe someone actually posted this.
I was at this concert. A bunch of us from Hunter College went down to watch Ian Hunter and the Hoople. Hard to believe that they were the headliners.
Never had heard Queen before that. Brian May just blew that little theatre up.
Can't wait to listen to the downloads.
Down in the city , just Hoople and Me !!!
Steve
I was at this concert. A bunch of us from Hunter College went down to watch Ian Hunter and the Hoople. Hard to believe that they were the headliners.
Never had heard Queen before that. Brian May just blew that little theatre up.
Can't wait to listen to the downloads.
Down in the city , just Hoople and Me !!!
Steve
hmm.. nice to see this topic on the first page again... and not only because of the announce..^^
btw still waiting for a reply on my mail, Sir_GH. ;-)
btw still waiting for a reply on my mail, Sir_GH. ;-)