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one of my local pubs,the peruvian arms, has petitioned the Peruvian embassy in London asking for a diplomatic status to become part of Peru.
If successful it will be able to carry on allowing smoking on the premises whilst the rest of England brings in the smoking ban in a few weeks time.
this cheekiness could only happen in Cornwall.thankfully.
pirates to the end :-]
isnt innuendo an italian suppository? im gonna ride the wild wind! its_a_hard_life wrote:you nutcase you rule! joxer replies: but in a nice way :-]
Wish they'd do that here. Well actually I don't. The smoking ban's a good thing. I guess.
Hahaha... I am totally anti-smoking, but that's just hilarious. If you guys need a place to smoke and that's the only way, then go for it!
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i dont go in there all that often but a mate of mine does and says that they are now learning the peruvian national anthem just in case they need it to gain diplomatic status.they sing it at last orders.if i get a chance i shall pop in for a pint to see it for myself,i wonder if they play the anthem on panpipes?
you honestly could not make this up,its actually made it onto BBC tv news now yesterday.lol
isnt innuendo an italian suppository? im gonna ride the wild wind! its_a_hard_life wrote:you nutcase you rule! joxer replies: but in a nice way :-]
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color=009966>?Freya? wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Wish they'd do that here. Well actually I don't. The smoking ban's a good thing. I guess.[/QUOTE]

A smoking ban in public places is good and right.

A smoking ban in a privately owned pub, restaurant, etc. is an abhorrent infringement of rights.
Creativity can always cover for a lack of knowledge.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color=009966>?Freya? wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Wish they'd do that here. Well actually I don't. The smoking ban's a good thing. I guess.[/QUOTE]

A smoking ban in public places is good and right.

A smoking ban in a privately owned pub, restaurant, etc. is an abhorrent infringement of rights.[/QUOTE]
its going to kill the pub trade in my village.you cant even enjoy a smoke on the patio outside coz its still part of the premises.
isnt innuendo an italian suppository? im gonna ride the wild wind! its_a_hard_life wrote:you nutcase you rule! joxer replies: but in a nice way :-]
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]joxerthemightypirate wrote: [/QUOTENAME] its going to kill the pub trade in my village.you cant even enjoy a smoke on the patio outside coz its still part of the premises. [/QUOTE]

That's what everyone thought here in New York. It didn't happen. The transition from smoke filled restaurants and bars to smoke-free restaurants and bars went smoothly. I've been in the wedding business for a lot of years and caterers thought they'd receive a lot of heartache because of the no-smoking laws. They haven't. Even photographers - the venue I'm involved in - when Bridal Parties would come into the studio for their portraits, they'd be sitting there in a cloud of their own smoke. Smooth as can be it went from that to completely smoke-free.

There's always going to be the occasional argument, but for the most part, the switch was easy... and businesses that were here well before the ban are still here and thriving.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]magicalfreddiemercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]joxerthemightypirate wrote: [/QUOTENAME] its going to kill the pub trade in my village.you cant even enjoy a smoke on the patio outside coz its still part of the premises. [/QUOTE]

That's what everyone thought here in New York. It didn't happen. The transition from smoke filled restaurants and bars to smoke-free restaurants and bars went smoothly. I've been in the wedding business for a lot of years and caterers thought they'd receive a lot of heartache because of the no-smoking laws. They haven't. Even photographers - the venue I'm involved in - when Bridal Parties would come into the studio for their portraits, they'd be sitting there in a cloud of their own smoke. Smooth as can be it went from that to completely smoke-free.

There's always going to be the occasional argument, but for the most part, the switch was easy... and businesses that were here well before the ban are still here and thriving. [/QUOTE]
nice reply
theres only 3 pubs and 3 restaurants in the village.i live in a small cornish fishing port,so places like these are the hub of the local society.when the ban starts i honestly think that it will be hard for the businesses to survive because people are not going to go to these places during the winter months when the weather is bad knowing that if they want a amoke they are going to have to stand out in the street to have one.i feel the only business that will flourish will be the off licence which sells beer cheaper than the pub naturally but gives people the option of drinking at home knowing they can also enjoy a smoke in the dry as well.the local economy and jobs are going to suffer badly,and its bad enough now as we have to survive on tourism for a living which is a seasonal thing as it is.
isnt innuendo an italian suppository? im gonna ride the wild wind! its_a_hard_life wrote:you nutcase you rule! joxer replies: but in a nice way :-]
Regardless of whether or not it will hurt businesses is irrelevant. It's still morally reprehensible to dictate that a business cannot freely operate as they wish. It should be up to businesses to decide whether or not they should allow smoking, and no one else should have any power over this. What's next? No smoking in your own house?
Creativity can always cover for a lack of knowledge.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color=666600>Music Man wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Regardless of whether or not it will hurt businesses is irrelevant. It's still morally reprehensible to dictate that a business cannot freely operate as they wish. It should be up to businesses to decide whether or not they should allow smoking, and no one else should have any power over this. What's next? No smoking in your own house?[/QUOTE]
its heading that way isn't it.
ironically i am still allowed to gamble on the fruit machines in a pub,even though gambling can lead to an addiction and i will be allowed to buy cigs whilst in the pub but not allowed to smoke them in it.
it should as you say,be up to the licencee to choose if they want smoking on their premises or not.
isnt innuendo an italian suppository? im gonna ride the wild wind! its_a_hard_life wrote:you nutcase you rule! joxer replies: but in a nice way :-]
Apparently when the smoking ban comes in, smoking will also be banned in cars, as it is in Scotland (or so I've heard) which doesn't make too much sense to me.

When does it come into place anyway? I know it's July, but is there a date yet?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color=009966>?Freya? wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Apparently when the smoking ban comes in, smoking will also be banned in cars, as it is in Scotland (or so I've heard) which doesn't make too much sense to me.

When does it come into place anyway? I know it's July, but is there a date yet?[/QUOTE]
July 1st i think?
isnt innuendo an italian suppository? im gonna ride the wild wind! its_a_hard_life wrote:you nutcase you rule! joxer replies: but in a nice way :-]
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color=009966>?Freya? wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Apparently when the smoking ban comes in, smoking will also be banned in cars, as it is in Scotland (or so I've heard) which doesn't make too much sense to me. [/QUOTE]

Not sure about the laws in Scotland, but over here, they tossed around the idea of banning smoking in cars while children were present. Maybe if you're alone or with a 'consenting adult' it's okay?
"The others don't like my interviews. And frankly, I don't care much for theirs." ~ Freddie Mercury
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]joxerthemightypirate wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color=009966>?Freya? wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Apparently when the smoking ban comes in, smoking will also be banned in cars, as it is in Scotland (or so I've heard) which doesn't make too much sense to me.

When does it come into place anyway? I know it's July, but is there a date yet?[/QUOTE]
July 1st i think?[/QUOTE]
Right. Well on June 31st, actually the 30th, because to my knowledge, the 31st of June doesn't exist, I'm going into my local pub with many a packet of Marlboro lights and chain smoking them while crying into my pint and thinking about the proximity to the last Harry Potter books release date.

[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]magicalfreddiemercury wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><font color=009966>?Freya? wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Apparently when the smoking ban comes in, smoking will also be banned in cars, as it is in Scotland (or so I've heard) which doesn't make too much sense to me. [/QUOTE]

Not sure about the laws in Scotland, but over here, they tossed around the idea of banning smoking in cars while children were present. Maybe if you're alone or with a 'consenting adult' it's okay?
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From what I've heard they're actually going to put a complete ban on smoking in cars whether it's just the driver in the car or not. I'm not fully sure of the reasons

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