[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]willem-jan wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Negative Creep wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Penetration_Guru wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
2. The existence of an acetate doesn't preclude the subsequent wiping (or reusing) of the tapes concerned.
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Greg has said he isn't permitted to talk in detail about the studio archive - they probably want to keep something like this as a surprise when/if any rarities boxset arrives.[/QUOTE]
You think John would care about that? He (as the rest of us) will be dead for years once the box-set is released. [/QUOTE]
Actually, over the many years I have been VERY generous to the wider Queen community - both openly and covert.
I have given almost all I have to give, and still I am harranged for more.
What I hold in my collection are but a few grains of sand against the vast Beach of QPL (yes the pun was intended).
It is they you need to harrang - not I.
For they too will be all dead and gone soon (in fact their most creative member already has - while another has quietly slipped into retirement)before any of THEIR rarities look likely to be exposed - if ever.
Besides, even if QPL was to secure the disc, do you really believe it would bring it any closer to the public domain. If you do, you certainly have far more faith in QPL than I do!
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]John S Stuart wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
Besides, even if QPL was to secure the disc, do you really believe it would bring it any closer to the public domain. If you do, you certainly have far more faith in QPL than I do!
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Exactly.
Besides, even if QPL was to secure the disc, do you really believe it would bring it any closer to the public domain. If you do, you certainly have far more faith in QPL than I do!
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Exactly.
For what it's worth John, I totally believe in you.
As for Adam's cheap shot, as a long time poster here, there's a weird history between you two, and playing amateur psycholgist, I'd say Adam is a classic passive/aggressive personality. Takes subtle digs at people, gets upset when called on it, then runs. Someone called him out on it the other day on the Fan Mix forum for always criticising but never posting his own stuff, but I think he missed the point. Shame, he's extremely knowledgeable on many things.
As for Adam's cheap shot, as a long time poster here, there's a weird history between you two, and playing amateur psycholgist, I'd say Adam is a classic passive/aggressive personality. Takes subtle digs at people, gets upset when called on it, then runs. Someone called him out on it the other day on the Fan Mix forum for always criticising but never posting his own stuff, but I think he missed the point. Shame, he's extremely knowledgeable on many things.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]John S Stuart wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]willem-jan wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Negative Creep wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Penetration_Guru wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
2. The existence of an acetate doesn't preclude the subsequent wiping (or reusing) of the tapes concerned.
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Greg has said he isn't permitted to talk in detail about the studio archive - they probably want to keep something like this as a surprise when/if any rarities boxset arrives.[/QUOTE]
You think John would care about that? He (as the rest of us) will be dead for years once the box-set is released. [/QUOTE]
Actually, over the many years I have been VERY generous to the wider Queen community - both openly and covert.
I have given almost all I have to give, and still I am harranged for more.
What I hold in my collection are but a few grains of sand against the vast Beach of QPL (yes the pun was intended).
It is they you need to harrang - not I.
For they too will be all dead and gone soon (in fact their most creative member already has - while another has quietly slipped into retirement)before any of THEIR rarities look likely to be exposed - if ever.
Besides, even if QPL was to secure the disc, do you really believe it would bring it any closer to the public domain. If you do, you certainly have far more faith in QPL than I do!
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John, I actually was aiming at QPL concerning a possible release in the future, not at you at all! I do fully respect your policy on this actual track.
Just out of curiosity, do you have any info on the acetate you have, for instance, day of recording etc.? And how does the song compare to the live versions we have (different lyrics, speed etc.)?
2. The existence of an acetate doesn't preclude the subsequent wiping (or reusing) of the tapes concerned.
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Greg has said he isn't permitted to talk in detail about the studio archive - they probably want to keep something like this as a surprise when/if any rarities boxset arrives.[/QUOTE]
You think John would care about that? He (as the rest of us) will be dead for years once the box-set is released. [/QUOTE]
Actually, over the many years I have been VERY generous to the wider Queen community - both openly and covert.
I have given almost all I have to give, and still I am harranged for more.
What I hold in my collection are but a few grains of sand against the vast Beach of QPL (yes the pun was intended).
It is they you need to harrang - not I.
For they too will be all dead and gone soon (in fact their most creative member already has - while another has quietly slipped into retirement)before any of THEIR rarities look likely to be exposed - if ever.
Besides, even if QPL was to secure the disc, do you really believe it would bring it any closer to the public domain. If you do, you certainly have far more faith in QPL than I do!
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John, I actually was aiming at QPL concerning a possible release in the future, not at you at all! I do fully respect your policy on this actual track.
Just out of curiosity, do you have any info on the acetate you have, for instance, day of recording etc.? And how does the song compare to the live versions we have (different lyrics, speed etc.)?
willem-jan:
I know nothing about the disc other than it came as part of a set of other 10" one-sided discs.
As to dates etc... I am completely ignorant. Forgive me, but there is little more point guessing at the things I do not know. (I am neither being rude or evasive here - just perfectly honest - sorry!)
The studio version does differ from the 'Young Nobles Of Rock' version in that it has a more heavier Led Zep/Black Sabbath 'feel'.
(Think De Lane Lea 'Jesus', 'Liar' or 'Silver Salmon').
I also think that in the 'Young Nobles...' version
the lyrics have been 'fleshed out' - but that may well be down to the fact that one is a live version - while the other is not - so the live one may be more improvised on the night.
Otherwise, struture, content and ideas are pretty much the same.
I know nothing about the disc other than it came as part of a set of other 10" one-sided discs.
As to dates etc... I am completely ignorant. Forgive me, but there is little more point guessing at the things I do not know. (I am neither being rude or evasive here - just perfectly honest - sorry!)
The studio version does differ from the 'Young Nobles Of Rock' version in that it has a more heavier Led Zep/Black Sabbath 'feel'.
(Think De Lane Lea 'Jesus', 'Liar' or 'Silver Salmon').
I also think that in the 'Young Nobles...' version
the lyrics have been 'fleshed out' - but that may well be down to the fact that one is a live version - while the other is not - so the live one may be more improvised on the night.
Otherwise, struture, content and ideas are pretty much the same.
Thanks for the reply, interesting read!
So if this acetate version is the same as the young nobles version (lyric wise) it should be recorded around the time of that particular show. Since if i remember correctly, older versions have other lyrics (it's been ages since I've listened to these other shows, so I could be wrong).
So if this acetate version is the same as the young nobles version (lyric wise) it should be recorded around the time of that particular show. Since if i remember correctly, older versions have other lyrics (it's been ages since I've listened to these other shows, so I could be wrong).
Wouldn't it make sense then to send a low quality version (mono, heavily compressed, low bitrate) to Brians PA or something to prove it's existance? If they seriously don't have any versions of Hangman themselves, surely they'd be chasing you for this?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]John S Stuart wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Adam Baboolal wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Jeroen wrote: [/QUOTENAME]...If JSS does not have a cd-r transfer he should immediately make one the very first time he plays te record. But I honestly assume that a collector like JSS knows this and DOES have a transfer.[/QUOTE]
(JSS looks embarrassed and runs off to get some CDs).[/QUOTE]
You may not be far from the truth there Zeb![/QUOTE]
Adam - a cheap shot, and uncalled for, I would have expected better.[/QUOTE]
No, John, no! It wasn't any kind of a "cheap shot".
Anyway, onto BTR's comment.
http://www.passiveaggressive.homestead.com/PATraits.html
Hey..look. It's me! lol - yeah right.
Sorry BTRaker, but you're way-off on your assessment of me. And when I've been "upset", as you say, have I ever run off? Far from it, I say. I don't remember being called out on the Fan-mix forum the other day. Where did you get that? *Checks forum*
I have what you might have been referring to. The exact quote was, "btw adam, did you ever finish that 'don't stop me now' cover that you annouced a while back? in fact, have you ever released any mixes on this forum?" - I chose to answer it straight, rather than take it any other way. Though, I get the feeling it was supposed to be calling me out, like you say. I don't rise to such things. Just because I choose to share what -I- want, when -I- want, seems to concern that user. Sad really cause the way I see his post is that he feels, if someone doesn't contribute a mix, how can one have an opinion about them! Which, I'm sure you'll agree, is laughable!
In fact, I've shared that song (DSMN) with friends, but haven't posted it here. But no worries, I do plan on getting it to QZ once I've completed the recording work. I've just been incredibly busy with things in recent months. In fact, there are a few covers in the off-ing for QZ - all because of the WWRY show I did this year.
Anyway, John, there was no subtext to my comment. It was 100% meant as it looks, i.e. John probably HASN'T had it properly backed up. I had meant that I wouldn't be surprised if it hasn't been properly transfered for archival. Well, maybe a mindisc backup as he does have minidisc backups in his lists. But I suppose, it's an acetate, so maybe he hasn't touched it at all! I remember acetates well. Used to get them free with the old record mags in town. Ah...I miss those!
Anyway, yes, unfortunately there was a brief history with myself and John. I never wanted that. I hope he doesn't either.
Adam.
(JSS looks embarrassed and runs off to get some CDs).[/QUOTE]
You may not be far from the truth there Zeb![/QUOTE]
Adam - a cheap shot, and uncalled for, I would have expected better.[/QUOTE]
No, John, no! It wasn't any kind of a "cheap shot".
Anyway, onto BTR's comment.
http://www.passiveaggressive.homestead.com/PATraits.html
Hey..look. It's me! lol - yeah right.
Sorry BTRaker, but you're way-off on your assessment of me. And when I've been "upset", as you say, have I ever run off? Far from it, I say. I don't remember being called out on the Fan-mix forum the other day. Where did you get that? *Checks forum*
I have what you might have been referring to. The exact quote was, "btw adam, did you ever finish that 'don't stop me now' cover that you annouced a while back? in fact, have you ever released any mixes on this forum?" - I chose to answer it straight, rather than take it any other way. Though, I get the feeling it was supposed to be calling me out, like you say. I don't rise to such things. Just because I choose to share what -I- want, when -I- want, seems to concern that user. Sad really cause the way I see his post is that he feels, if someone doesn't contribute a mix, how can one have an opinion about them! Which, I'm sure you'll agree, is laughable!
In fact, I've shared that song (DSMN) with friends, but haven't posted it here. But no worries, I do plan on getting it to QZ once I've completed the recording work. I've just been incredibly busy with things in recent months. In fact, there are a few covers in the off-ing for QZ - all because of the WWRY show I did this year.
Anyway, John, there was no subtext to my comment. It was 100% meant as it looks, i.e. John probably HASN'T had it properly backed up. I had meant that I wouldn't be surprised if it hasn't been properly transfered for archival. Well, maybe a mindisc backup as he does have minidisc backups in his lists. But I suppose, it's an acetate, so maybe he hasn't touched it at all! I remember acetates well. Used to get them free with the old record mags in town. Ah...I miss those!
Anyway, yes, unfortunately there was a brief history with myself and John. I never wanted that. I hope he doesn't either.
Adam.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Adam Baboolal wrote: ...I remember acetates well. Used to get them free with the old record mags in town. Ah...I miss those!
Adam.[/QUOTE]
NO - those were NOT acetates Adam. Those were flexi-discs.
Acetates are very, very heavy, as they have a metal based (usually alluminium) centre. It is this which makes them very brittle and very dry.
They also went out of fashion around mid 1980's - as DAT and other digital media have since made them redundant.
Adam.[/QUOTE]
NO - those were NOT acetates Adam. Those were flexi-discs.
Acetates are very, very heavy, as they have a metal based (usually alluminium) centre. It is this which makes them very brittle and very dry.
They also went out of fashion around mid 1980's - as DAT and other digital media have since made them redundant.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Negative Creep wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Wouldn't it make sense then to send a low quality version (mono, heavily compressed, low bitrate) to Brians PA or something to prove it's existance? If they seriously don't have any versions of Hangman themselves, surely they'd be chasing you for this?[/QUOTE]
If so heavily compressed and of poor quality, couldn't that also be confused for just another live version from some random early gig?
If so heavily compressed and of poor quality, couldn't that also be confused for just another live version from some random early gig?
Oh right. Gotcha. In that case, I think I've only ever seen one real acetate ages ago. Kind of like a record, but it was weird on one side.
Adam.
Adam.
JJS-A simple Question, So does this Hangman sound like how they played it live, or is it really a complete studio song?