The Rolling Stones are absolute shite!!!!!
with one or two bearable songs in their entire catalouge, the rest perpetual monotony!
Sir Mick Jagger is not fit to walk the same stage as one Freddie Mercury.
Queen on the creative/performance level is the best band on the planet, even if some of the USA are a bit slow on the uptake, ok Hot Space was different funk/rock not everbodys cup of tea, didn't Eddie Van Halens work on MJ's 'Beat It' go down a storm on a dance orientated track, but why be safe like the Rolling Stones with the same sound for 50 albums, experimentation is one of the aspects of Queen that made them the innovative band they were fusing different musical styles and imo the Hot Space material needed a little bit more time to be polished up, but as Queen were one of the more popular bands around this time with their extensive touring, I guess the time was not afforded.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Queen+me wrote: [/QUOTENAME]hey all i wanted to know was what ppl thought[/QUOTE]
Forgive us adults;)
Forgive us adults;)
Did Village People being gay stop them having massive hits in the US around the time we are talking?
It wasn't just gay people buying THEIR records, or was it?
You can partially blame the problem Queen had in the US, but it can't have been the only deciding factor. We, as Queen fans stand a much better chance of looking back on Hot Space now, I think, in a better light than we ever could in 1982.
It wasn't just gay people buying THEIR records, or was it?
You can partially blame the problem Queen had in the US, but it can't have been the only deciding factor. We, as Queen fans stand a much better chance of looking back on Hot Space now, I think, in a better light than we ever could in 1982.
I don't give a damn that Freddie was bisexual. That means nothing to me. Only his talent and his music matter. But to many in the US that are homophobic, his sexuality was a huge turn-off. No question about that. It's remarkable that Queen is one of the biggest bands of all times despite something like this that while it's completely asinine, definitely does put a drag on their popularity. I've often wondered if Freddie was straight, why they might have been even bigger than the Rolling Stones or Beatles. Because even if 300 million records have been bought, how many others didn't get bought because stupid people have issues with people that are different from them? I've seen the reaction myself. I've seen a cousin of mine ask for a Queen song to be turned off because Freddie was gay and we shouldn't be listening to it. I wish I was kidding but he was serious. I've seen others in my family have similar intolerant reactions. The point is this. The world has come a long way in the past 20 years, and Freddie's death has a lot to do with this. But there is no question that Freddie's sexuality negatively impacted the band's status, particulary in the early 80s in the USA. It was a much less tolerant time. Sadly, some of that ignorance still exists.
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Freddie did not tank Queen in the USA.
Queen is very, very popular here. Their music endures. What about AOBTD and CLTCL? Very nice hits here. I can't get thru the day without hearing Queen multiple times thru the day on the radio and TV. How about American sport stadiums full with people and Queen's WATC and WWRY? This happens nearly everyday across a country of 300 million. Queen is still the best selling artist in the Hollywood records cadre. Absolute Greatest is of course very popular. And still the very bravest contestants on American Idol and X Factor and The Voice will attempt to sing Queen now and then. And they know they will be judged very harshly if they screw it.
How about their music work for Highlander and it also endures on the Highlander TV series? The best thing about that series is the Queen opening title sequence. How about OV in the movie Iron Eagle? That is also the best thing about that movie. Countless US films include Queen music ... and we enjoy a lot of movies here as you know!
Yes there was the IWTBF video problem. But that problem was with MTV. MTV is soley responsible for censoring that and killing that and did not give their audience a reasonable chance to decide for themselves. If you want to call losing MTV the same thing as losing America - that is really not fair. I think it's an important distinction to make. America was NOT afforded the opportunity to see it properly. Their fans did not crumble because of it. We are still here! Even Wayne and Garth still rock to BORAP.
If there could of been more tours in the USA then maybe you would be more impressed?
Queen is very, very popular here. Their music endures. What about AOBTD and CLTCL? Very nice hits here. I can't get thru the day without hearing Queen multiple times thru the day on the radio and TV. How about American sport stadiums full with people and Queen's WATC and WWRY? This happens nearly everyday across a country of 300 million. Queen is still the best selling artist in the Hollywood records cadre. Absolute Greatest is of course very popular. And still the very bravest contestants on American Idol and X Factor and The Voice will attempt to sing Queen now and then. And they know they will be judged very harshly if they screw it.
How about their music work for Highlander and it also endures on the Highlander TV series? The best thing about that series is the Queen opening title sequence. How about OV in the movie Iron Eagle? That is also the best thing about that movie. Countless US films include Queen music ... and we enjoy a lot of movies here as you know!
Yes there was the IWTBF video problem. But that problem was with MTV. MTV is soley responsible for censoring that and killing that and did not give their audience a reasonable chance to decide for themselves. If you want to call losing MTV the same thing as losing America - that is really not fair. I think it's an important distinction to make. America was NOT afforded the opportunity to see it properly. Their fans did not crumble because of it. We are still here! Even Wayne and Garth still rock to BORAP.
If there could of been more tours in the USA then maybe you would be more impressed?
What's with your spurting "Get a life"..."Get a life" ?
You're taking things a bit personal huh?
You're taking things a bit personal huh?
The Rolling Stones are more popular than Queen?
Where did you dream that one up? Certainly not record sales, or anything else.
Where did you dream that one up? Certainly not record sales, or anything else.
[QUOTE] [b]ana_libra wrote:[/b]
Had Freddie not been gay, Queen wouldn't have existed... it was all him... the way he thought and the things he had to deal with, were all pretty much part of queen...[/QUOTE]
I share your opinion. Of course we will never know for sure. Freddie may not have been as outrageous and daring if he were straight.
Sure, it hurt Queen's popularity in the USA back then but these days I don't think it would have. Everybody loves Freddie these days.
Had Freddie not been gay, Queen wouldn't have existed... it was all him... the way he thought and the things he had to deal with, were all pretty much part of queen...[/QUOTE]
I share your opinion. Of course we will never know for sure. Freddie may not have been as outrageous and daring if he were straight.
Sure, it hurt Queen's popularity in the USA back then but these days I don't think it would have. Everybody loves Freddie these days.
[QUOTE] [b]queenUSA wrote:[/b]
Freddie did not tank Queen in the USA.
Queen is very, very popular here. Their music endures. What about AOBTD and CLTCL? Very nice hits here. I can't get thru the day without hearing Queen multiple times thru the day on the radio and TV. How about American sport stadiums full with people and Queen's WATC and WWRY? This happens nearly everyday across a country of 300 million. Queen is still the best selling artist in the Hollywood records cadre. Absolute Greatest is of course very popular. And still the very bravest contestants on American Idol and X Factor and The Voice will attempt to sing Queen now and then. And they know they will be judged very harshly if they screw it.
How about their music work for Highlander and it also endures on the Highlander TV series? The best thing about that series is the Queen opening title sequence. How about OV in the movie Iron Eagle? That is also the best thing about that movie. Countless US films include Queen music ... and we enjoy a lot of movies here as you know!
Yes there was the IWTBF video problem. But that problem was with MTV. MTV is soley responsible for censoring that and killing that and did not give their audience a reasonable chance to decide for themselves. If you want to call losing MTV the same thing as losing America - that is really not fair. I think it's an important distinction to make. America was NOT afforded the opportunity to see it properly. Their fans did not crumble because of it. We are still here! Even Wayne and Garth still rock to BORAP.
If there could of been more tours in the USA then maybe you would be more impressed?[/QUOTE]
Although "Another One Bites The Dust" was a big hit in the U.S. it turned off their rock fans. "Hot Space" made the U.S. rock fans leave in droves. The U.S. audience was never the same for them again.
Freddie did not tank Queen in the USA.
Queen is very, very popular here. Their music endures. What about AOBTD and CLTCL? Very nice hits here. I can't get thru the day without hearing Queen multiple times thru the day on the radio and TV. How about American sport stadiums full with people and Queen's WATC and WWRY? This happens nearly everyday across a country of 300 million. Queen is still the best selling artist in the Hollywood records cadre. Absolute Greatest is of course very popular. And still the very bravest contestants on American Idol and X Factor and The Voice will attempt to sing Queen now and then. And they know they will be judged very harshly if they screw it.
How about their music work for Highlander and it also endures on the Highlander TV series? The best thing about that series is the Queen opening title sequence. How about OV in the movie Iron Eagle? That is also the best thing about that movie. Countless US films include Queen music ... and we enjoy a lot of movies here as you know!
Yes there was the IWTBF video problem. But that problem was with MTV. MTV is soley responsible for censoring that and killing that and did not give their audience a reasonable chance to decide for themselves. If you want to call losing MTV the same thing as losing America - that is really not fair. I think it's an important distinction to make. America was NOT afforded the opportunity to see it properly. Their fans did not crumble because of it. We are still here! Even Wayne and Garth still rock to BORAP.
If there could of been more tours in the USA then maybe you would be more impressed?[/QUOTE]
Although "Another One Bites The Dust" was a big hit in the U.S. it turned off their rock fans. "Hot Space" made the U.S. rock fans leave in droves. The U.S. audience was never the same for them again.
[QUOTE] [b]Day dop wrote:[/b]
The Rolling Stones are more popular than Queen?Where did you dream that one up? Certainly not record sales, or anything else.[/QUOTE]
The Rolling Stones (a band I can't stand) are far bigger than Queen ever was.
The Stones play sold out stadium shows all around the world.
Queen never even headlined a stadium show in the U.S.
The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, then KISS have the most number of RIAA (U.S.) gold lp awards.
The Rolling Stones are more popular than Queen?Where did you dream that one up? Certainly not record sales, or anything else.[/QUOTE]
The Rolling Stones (a band I can't stand) are far bigger than Queen ever was.
The Stones play sold out stadium shows all around the world.
Queen never even headlined a stadium show in the U.S.
The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, then KISS have the most number of RIAA (U.S.) gold lp awards.
Queen are the 7th biggest selling music artists in the world, the Rolling stones are the 12th.
In what way are you thinking they are bigger? Or are you pulling my leg?
I'm not really into seeing what band can pee further, but you're wrong on that one - just because Stones headlined US tours, that doesn't make them bigger at all. Do I really have to bring up Queens achievements? I'm sure you already know them....
In what way are you thinking they are bigger? Or are you pulling my leg?
I'm not really into seeing what band can pee further, but you're wrong on that one - just because Stones headlined US tours, that doesn't make them bigger at all. Do I really have to bring up Queens achievements? I'm sure you already know them....
[QUOTE] [b]jpf wrote:[/b]
The Stones play sold out stadium shows all around the world.[/QUOTE]
So did Queen. They were the first band to play the big football stadiums in South America.
[QUOTE]Queen never even headlined a stadium show in the U.S.
The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, then KISS have the most number of RIAA (U.S.) gold lp awards.[/QUOTE]
Worldwide, Queen have sold about 100 million more units than the Stones, and Made In Heaven sold better than any Stones record. Queen have been in the UK album charts longer than the Beatles.
Your research is very, very poor. You can start by realizing there is a world outside of the US.
The Stones play sold out stadium shows all around the world.[/QUOTE]
So did Queen. They were the first band to play the big football stadiums in South America.
[QUOTE]Queen never even headlined a stadium show in the U.S.
The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, then KISS have the most number of RIAA (U.S.) gold lp awards.[/QUOTE]
Worldwide, Queen have sold about 100 million more units than the Stones, and Made In Heaven sold better than any Stones record. Queen have been in the UK album charts longer than the Beatles.
Your research is very, very poor. You can start by realizing there is a world outside of the US.
Well said.
Queen are listed first and seventh place in terms of best selling album in the UK (as I am totally sure you know)
Stones don't even get a look in there.
And as a live act?
Stones and Queen?
I know I'm not talking crap here when I say that Queen are regarded as the best live act the world ever had. And no, that's not the sound of someone who's simply a fan - it's generally the way it's seen.
Queen are listed first and seventh place in terms of best selling album in the UK (as I am totally sure you know)
Stones don't even get a look in there.
And as a live act?
Stones and Queen?
I know I'm not talking crap here when I say that Queen are regarded as the best live act the world ever had. And no, that's not the sound of someone who's simply a fan - it's generally the way it's seen.
ROCK IN RIO - Queen headlined that.
I'll give credit where credit's due - the Stones are a great band. Aftermath through Exile are stellar records, and with Mick Taylor on board they hit their peak as a live act.
Sure, the Stones outsold Queen in the US, but everywhere else in the world Queen are the bigger and more influential band.
That said, I really don't like it when music becomes a popularity contest or a game of numbers. But I do feel the need to chime in when someone starts spouting gibberish that has no basis in reality.
Sure, the Stones outsold Queen in the US, but everywhere else in the world Queen are the bigger and more influential band.
That said, I really don't like it when music becomes a popularity contest or a game of numbers. But I do feel the need to chime in when someone starts spouting gibberish that has no basis in reality.