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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]gnomo wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Steve wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Have you got any reliable sources,Serry? I'm rather curious.[/QUOTE]The man himself - on his Soapbox, a couple of interviews and the ANATO documentary IIRC...[/QUOTE]

Thanks!
"Fuck today, it's tomorrow." - Freddie Mercury
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><FONT SIZE=4>inu-liger</b> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Treasure Moment wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]P-Staker wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I actually like the idea of C-Lebrity being a gently self-mocking song along the lines of Let Me Entertain You. Roger will probably prove me wrong in his next interview.

And that's a shame. It's hypocritical, after doing a commercial with Britney, appearing on American Idol and playing with a bunch of schmucks worse than the Croatian government.

But worse yet, it's petty. It's like Randy Coutur telling first graders in Aikido class that they suck. Technically true, but heroic it ain't.

I wish I could hate the song. If only the harmonies weren't so bloody amazing...[/QUOTE]

wow you must be very easily impressed if you think those harmonies are amazing, we have harmonies waaaaaay better than that on my page[/QUOTE]

Haha.

I find it amusing how much you try to promote your music as "good product".

I think you will have competition from myself and my band in a few months. We've started re-recording our tracks after fiddling with demos and ideas between November last year and February this year. We've even looked into our older demos in my digital archive, that were from before I was even part of the band other than by association with some of the members from high school, and found there are some songs we are looking to bring back even. I already recorded, I think, two or three of those 'old' songs for drums earlier this week out of 5 songs so far.

We are still waiting on a Mapex Saturn kit to come in before we record some other songs. I've been using the custom kit I use at the moment for a few songs I felt would work better for those songs, but I will likely record some drum tracks on both kits to see which one comes across better in sound and mix.

Will write more about that later this spring :)[/QUOTE]

well great, if you make good quality music then im looking forward to hearing it.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Treasure Moment wrote: [/QUOTENAME]wow you must be very easily impressed if you think those harmonies are amazing, we have harmonies waaaaaay better than that on my page[/QUOTE]

Do you actually think you're going to attract people to listen to your music with this kind of attitude?

Arrogance will get you nowhere. But feel free to keep trying, as that record deal is surely just around the corner.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Treasure Moment wrote: [/QUOTENAME]you cant be seriously thinking they are mocking themselves? its about the talentless idol celebrities and such i think[/QUOTE]

Even though you can't technically think without severely hurting yourself.
Evil will always triumph 'cause good is dumb.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Treasure Moment wrote: [/QUOTENAME]wow you must be very easily impressed if you think those harmonies are amazing, we have harmonies waaaaaay better than that on my page[/QUOTE]

Others may laugh, but I believe you 100%. I'm looking forward to you ditching that cheesy crap and putting the good stuff you're telling us about!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Treasure Moment wrote: [/QUOTENAME]wow you must be very easily impressed if you think those harmonies are amazing, we have harmonies waaaaaay better than that on my page[/QUOTE]

Do you actually think you're going to attract people to listen to your music with this kind of attitude?

Arrogance will get you nowhere. But feel free to keep trying, as that record deal is surely just around the corner.
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its not arrogance, its how it is. As you know im not talking about the earlier Queen material, only these 2 new songs.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Treasure Moment wrote: [/QUOTENAME]its not arrogance, its how it is. As you know im not talking about the earlier Queen material, only these 2 new songs.[/QUOTE]

It absolutely *is* arrogance. Regardless of circumstance, you're trying to elevate your music over someone else's for reason X. That is called arrogance, and there's no way to talk your way around that. Anything from Bill Evans' catalogue (or virtually any jazz composition for that matter) is more complicated than anything Queen ever wrote - but that doesn't make it inherently better or worse in any way. It's beyond even comparing apples and oranges. Music is beautifully organic, relative to so many factors. In fact, it should be beyond comparison. Every kind of music is suitable for someone, and it should be left at that.

Your entire attitude towards dealing with the public is arrogant. You label anyone who criticizes your music as "not understanding good music", which has absolutely no substance and merits no respect from anyone. You will not get anywhere in the music business with your attitude. But you're welcome to keep trying. And just a pointer... you definitely will not get anywhere if you tell people you don't even respect The Beatles for their contributions to popular music and culture, never mind your personal tastes. Negativity will get you nowhere.

That said, harmonies (any construction of them) alone don't make one song inherently good and a song lacking them inherently bad. Some of the greatest songs ever (i.e. Imagine, All In Love Is Fair) have simple instrumentation and no harmonies. But you'll probably never begin to fathom this concept because you are somehow convinced that your songs are better than those timeless, universally-revered pieces of art. The fact that you are a stepford Freddie fan doesn't mean you have good musical taste. You have horrible taste in music, because you label virtually everything as being below not only Freddie's compostions, but also your own, which have sold a grand total of zero copies thus far, and have been positively reviewed only by the comments you haven't deleted from your Myspace page. You sir are one in a million.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Treasure Moment wrote: [/QUOTENAME]its not arrogance, its how it is. As you know im not talking about the earlier Queen material, only these 2 new songs.[/QUOTE]

It absolutely *is* arrogance. Regardless of circumstance, you're trying to elevate your music over someone else's for reason X. That is called arrogance, and there's no way to talk your way around that. Anything from Bill Evans' catalogue (or virtually any jazz composition for that matter) is more complicated than anything Queen ever wrote - but that doesn't make it inherently better or worse in any way. It's beyond even comparing apples and oranges. Music is beautifully organic, relative to so many factors. In fact, it should be beyond comparison. Every kind of music is suitable for someone, and it should be left at that.

Your entire attitude towards dealing with the public is arrogant. You label anyone who criticizes your music as "not understanding good music", which has absolutely no substance and merits no respect from anyone. You will not get anywhere in the music business with your attitude. But you're welcome to keep trying. And just a pointer... you definitely will not get anywhere if you tell people you don't even respect The Beatles for their contributions to popular music and culture, never mind your personal tastes. Negativity will get you nowhere.

That said, harmonies (any construction of them) alone don't make one song inherently good and a song lacking them inherently bad. Some of the greatest songs ever (i.e. Imagine, All In Love Is Fair) have simple instrumentation and no harmonies. But you'll probably never begin to fathom this concept because you are somehow convinced that your songs are better than those timeless, universally-revered pieces of art. The fact that you are a stepford Freddie fan doesn't mean you have good musical taste. You have horrible taste in music, because you label virtually everything as being below not only Freddie's compostions, but also your own, which have sold a grand total of zero copies thus far, and have been positively reviewed only by the comments you haven't deleted from your Myspace page. You sir are one in a million.
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Im just saying how things are, if the beatles were good and talented i would say however they arent, they might have 2 or 3 decent song MAX but they highly overrated and crappy and can in no way compare to Queen or my band, its just a fact.

About selling albums ive already told you before that it means nothing if the music is crap. Look at britney spears and the talentless rappers, they sell millions of albums but are totally talentless and couldnt write a good song if their lives depended on it.

about the thing you said that i see everything as below both mine and freddies work, thats not true. There are many songs from different artists that i think are very good.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><FONT SIZE=4>inu-liger</b> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]My personal interpretation, partly based on the slight misspelling of Celebrity as "C-lebrity" can be one or a combination of the following, including what I feel is implied in the lyrics:

-The "C-" could refer to C-list (lower than B-list or perhaps "B-movies") "celebrities"
-It could also be implying that the subject is more or less an attention whore, so to speak. Because they want you to "see that (they're/he is/she is, "I'm" a C-lebrity/celebrity), just because they think by participating or working on, say, a movie, music album, etc. etc., basically anything to do with the entertainment industry.
-With the last point in mind, the "C-" spelling could also be a pun on "see", also as in "see, I'm a celebrity"

I could delve more into it, but this is what comes to mind first and foremost.

I won't doubt though that this will confuse a lot of people not very fluent in the English language, because of many of our puns, hidden meanings and innuendos, etc., which for the most part are extremely hard to translate effectively, if at all.
And every so often there are new terms and memes that originate online all the time, at such a rather admittingly faster pace these days than even 10 years ago ("pwned", anyone?). And it is so hard to come up with equivalent terms and whatever for foreign people.[/QUOTE]

Hey Richard, get rid of the codes in your s/n so I can send you a private message discussing music.

- Jake
"Please buy my upcoming album... I need the money"
I finally dug the quote that makes C-Lebrity such an ugly song:

"It destroys the soul to hear that you're all hype, that you have no talent, and that your whole career has been contrived."

- Freddie Mercury
By the way this song is dedicated to Treasure Moment...
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Jacob Britt wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]<b><FONT SIZE=4>inu-liger</b> wrote: [/QUOTENAME]My personal interpretation, partly based on the slight misspelling of Celebrity as "C-lebrity" can be one or a combination of the following, including what I feel is implied in the lyrics:

-The "C-" could refer to C-list (lower than B-list or perhaps "B-movies") "celebrities"
-It could also be implying that the subject is more or less an attention whore, so to speak. Because they want you to "see that (they're/he is/she is, "I'm" a C-lebrity/celebrity), just because they think by participating or working on, say, a movie, music album, etc. etc., basically anything to do with the entertainment industry.
-With the last point in mind, the "C-" spelling could also be a pun on "see", also as in "see, I'm a celebrity"

I could delve more into it, but this is what comes to mind first and foremost.

I won't doubt though that this will confuse a lot of people not very fluent in the English language, because of many of our puns, hidden meanings and innuendos, etc., which for the most part are extremely hard to translate effectively, if at all.
And every so often there are new terms and memes that originate online all the time, at such a rather admittingly faster pace these days than even 10 years ago ("pwned", anyone?). And it is so hard to come up with equivalent terms and whatever for foreign people.[/QUOTE]

Hey Richard, get rid of the codes in your s/n so I can send you a private message discussing music.

- Jake[/QUOTE]

No can do :)

What is it that's so private about it anyways?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Freddie May wrote: [/QUOTENAME]By the way this song is dedicated to Treasure Moment...[/QUOTE]

not really since we have real talnet unlike the garbage bands out there
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Treasure Moment wrote: [/QUOTENAME]


not really since we have real talnet unlike the garbage bands out there[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Zebonka12 wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Treasure Moment wrote: [/QUOTENAME]


not really since we have real talnet unlike the garbage bands out there[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

once again zebonka knows :D
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