Both Roger and Brian tried to make a solo career after Freddie died - with very limited success. They did not only lose a friend, they lost the heart and soul of the band and therefore their professional life. Surely, Roger had hard times to come to terms with Freddie's death but that was 17 years ago. After 17 years you are over the death of your parents or sibling. After 17 years you should get tired of the lip service that is asked from you day in day out. On the last tour Paul Rodgers was asked in each and every interview how it feels to be in Freddie's shoes and it gets tedious. I cannot blame Roger for being fed up at some point. They are still alive and they should make the best of it, it's their right. How anyone can be offended is beyond me.
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[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]YourValentine wrote: [/QUOTENAME]After 17 years you should get tired of the lip service that is asked from you day in day out.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Fenderek wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I love that Roger quote, it's perfect. It shows he still has balls. Apparently that's what ROCK is all about...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]ANAGRAMER wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Roger's always been quite smug, but he does tell it like it is![/QUOTE]
... always been my hero because of that...! Blondie RULEZ!!! :-D
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Fenderek wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I love that Roger quote, it's perfect. It shows he still has balls. Apparently that's what ROCK is all about...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]ANAGRAMER wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Roger's always been quite smug, but he does tell it like it is![/QUOTE]
... always been my hero because of that...! Blondie RULEZ!!! :-D
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Benn wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Just as Roger says - if you don't like it, then fine. Say what you have to say and then retire to the shaddows.[/QUOTE]
I don't give a damn about what Roger says, but I would like to comment on the above post... ;)
How many times am I allowed to "say what I have to say" before you force me to retire to the shadows?
Once?
Once every time they go on tour?
Once every time there's an excessively positive post about QPR on this website?
In short... If I have a contrary opinion to Roger's, am I allowed to participate in any discussions here at QZ, or am I supposed to be in the shadows for the rest of my life?
Because I think I'd rather leave this message board altogether if I'm not allowed to post my opinions in response to other people's opinions.
I don't give a damn about what Roger says, but I would like to comment on the above post... ;)
How many times am I allowed to "say what I have to say" before you force me to retire to the shadows?
Once?
Once every time they go on tour?
Once every time there's an excessively positive post about QPR on this website?
In short... If I have a contrary opinion to Roger's, am I allowed to participate in any discussions here at QZ, or am I supposed to be in the shadows for the rest of my life?
Because I think I'd rather leave this message board altogether if I'm not allowed to post my opinions in response to other people's opinions.
I'm whole heartedly with Roger on this one, I just don't understand people moaning about it not being Freddie any more, like it can change?
I remember clearly when Peter Gabriele left Genesis everyone was horrified that they were going to continue without him...
Same with Pink Floyd, The Who, etc etc
Why participate in a Queen website if you don't like them as they are now, for god sake it's been what 16 years since Fred died...how long do you ahev to wait, half the people complaining were not even born when he was alive and never saw him in concert...
Move on, they have
If I were Roger I would feel that same hand frankly be a little more pissed about it then he seems to be.
His attitude has always been 'if you don't like it don't listen' and I think you will find that was pretty much the attitude of the band as a whole throughout their career, certainly Freddie had that response to naysayers!
I remember clearly when Peter Gabriele left Genesis everyone was horrified that they were going to continue without him...
Same with Pink Floyd, The Who, etc etc
Why participate in a Queen website if you don't like them as they are now, for god sake it's been what 16 years since Fred died...how long do you ahev to wait, half the people complaining were not even born when he was alive and never saw him in concert...
Move on, they have
If I were Roger I would feel that same hand frankly be a little more pissed about it then he seems to be.
His attitude has always been 'if you don't like it don't listen' and I think you will find that was pretty much the attitude of the band as a whole throughout their career, certainly Freddie had that response to naysayers!
Very many good posts here. A main point for me is that I would really like to hear new music again and have at least some part of the band touring again. Because whether we like it or not some day we wont have the possibility of that anymore.
Its become aparent to me how big part of the Queen sound Brian and Roger were, because it still actually sounds like Queen (minus Freddie of course) when theyre playing. Johns bassplaying is noticeably missing but the musical essence of the sound is still there.
Its become aparent to me how big part of the Queen sound Brian and Roger were, because it still actually sounds like Queen (minus Freddie of course) when theyre playing. Johns bassplaying is noticeably missing but the musical essence of the sound is still there.
There is nothing bad on Roger's attitude.
He's a rock star, not a diplomat
He's a rock star, not a diplomat
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Togg wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Why participate in a Queen website if you don't like them as they are now[/QUOTE]
So that's what you want?
Anybody who doesn't like the "Queen" of today should have no right to be on a website and discuss... say the first 25 years of the band?
Just how narrowminded can a person be?
So that's what you want?
Anybody who doesn't like the "Queen" of today should have no right to be on a website and discuss... say the first 25 years of the band?
Just how narrowminded can a person be?
Benn wrote:
"Just as Roger says - if you don't like it, then fine. Say what you have to say and then retire to the shaddows."
Tero wrote:
"How many times am I allowed to "say what I have to say" before you force me to retire to the shadows?
Once?
Once every time they go on tour?
Once every time there's an excessively positive post about QPR on this website?
In short... If I have a contrary opinion to Roger's, am I allowed to participate in any discussions here at QZ, or am I supposed to be in the shadows for the rest of my life?
Because I think I'd rather leave this message board altogether if I'm not allowed to post my opinions in response to other people's opinions"
- No more to say Tero ;-) !!
"Just as Roger says - if you don't like it, then fine. Say what you have to say and then retire to the shaddows."
Tero wrote:
"How many times am I allowed to "say what I have to say" before you force me to retire to the shadows?
Once?
Once every time they go on tour?
Once every time there's an excessively positive post about QPR on this website?
In short... If I have a contrary opinion to Roger's, am I allowed to participate in any discussions here at QZ, or am I supposed to be in the shadows for the rest of my life?
Because I think I'd rather leave this message board altogether if I'm not allowed to post my opinions in response to other people's opinions"
- No more to say Tero ;-) !!
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Togg wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Why participate in a Queen website if you don't like them as they are now[/QUOTE]
So that's what you want?
Anybody who doesn't like the "Queen" of today should have no right to be on a website and discuss... say the first 25 years of the band?
Just how narrowminded can a person be?[/QUOTE]
Nobody said anything about not 'allowed to participate', I simply asked why would you want to if it infuriates you so much? it's such old news now it's not even news...
To come here and simply go on about 'it's not the same anymore' is pointless and narrowminded if you want to know what narrowminded is.
I've seen so many poeple do that over the years, they come and go and just moan about why is it Paul instead of Freddie or George Michael or some other singer, it seems that it is usually simply to make everyone jump up and down in anger.
Frankly I have no interest in who likes what, I am commenting on the fact that I agree with Rogers statement, after so long it's pointless to keep harping on about it. move on and get over it.
So that's what you want?
Anybody who doesn't like the "Queen" of today should have no right to be on a website and discuss... say the first 25 years of the band?
Just how narrowminded can a person be?[/QUOTE]
Nobody said anything about not 'allowed to participate', I simply asked why would you want to if it infuriates you so much? it's such old news now it's not even news...
To come here and simply go on about 'it's not the same anymore' is pointless and narrowminded if you want to know what narrowminded is.
I've seen so many poeple do that over the years, they come and go and just moan about why is it Paul instead of Freddie or George Michael or some other singer, it seems that it is usually simply to make everyone jump up and down in anger.
Frankly I have no interest in who likes what, I am commenting on the fact that I agree with Rogers statement, after so long it's pointless to keep harping on about it. move on and get over it.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Togg wrote: [/QUOTENAME]I simply asked why would you want to if it infuriates you so much?[/QUOTE]
Why would anybody come to this website and post anything?
Could it possible be that they are interested in the subject matter and are posting an opinion about the subject matter?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Togg wrote: [/QUOTENAME]it's such old news now it's not even news...[/QUOTE]
I'm really sorry to say this, but it's still very much current news. Brian and Roger are at this very moment selling tickets to concerts where they are billed as "Queen".
Am I allowed to post about the current topics if my opinion differs from yours? (I assume you're in favour of Brian and Roger calling themselves Queen)
Are you going to say to EVERYONE writing about Brian and Roger that they are discussing "such old news it's not even news", or do you reserve that honour to those you disagree with?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Togg wrote: [/QUOTENAME]To come here and simply go on about 'it's not the same anymore' is pointless and narrowminded if you want to know what narrowminded is.[/QUOTE]
As long as it's done in terms of civilised discussion (answering a question, staying on topic, not insulting other posters) it's no more narrowminded or undesired than any positive opinion about QPR.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Togg wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Frankly I have no interest in who likes what, I am commenting on the fact that I agree with Rogers statement, after so long it's pointless to keep harping on about it. move on and get over it.[/QUOTE]
In my opinion it's pointless to claim that Brian and Roger are Queen, are you now going to keep forever quiet about the subject?
I didn't think so, and that's why you can't expect anybody with negative opinions to stay quiet either.
So am I or am I not allowed to post my disagreeing opinions on this message board, or are you going to bitch and moan about them?
Why would anybody come to this website and post anything?
Could it possible be that they are interested in the subject matter and are posting an opinion about the subject matter?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Togg wrote: [/QUOTENAME]it's such old news now it's not even news...[/QUOTE]
I'm really sorry to say this, but it's still very much current news. Brian and Roger are at this very moment selling tickets to concerts where they are billed as "Queen".
Am I allowed to post about the current topics if my opinion differs from yours? (I assume you're in favour of Brian and Roger calling themselves Queen)
Are you going to say to EVERYONE writing about Brian and Roger that they are discussing "such old news it's not even news", or do you reserve that honour to those you disagree with?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Togg wrote: [/QUOTENAME]To come here and simply go on about 'it's not the same anymore' is pointless and narrowminded if you want to know what narrowminded is.[/QUOTE]
As long as it's done in terms of civilised discussion (answering a question, staying on topic, not insulting other posters) it's no more narrowminded or undesired than any positive opinion about QPR.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Togg wrote: [/QUOTENAME]Frankly I have no interest in who likes what, I am commenting on the fact that I agree with Rogers statement, after so long it's pointless to keep harping on about it. move on and get over it.[/QUOTE]
In my opinion it's pointless to claim that Brian and Roger are Queen, are you now going to keep forever quiet about the subject?
I didn't think so, and that's why you can't expect anybody with negative opinions to stay quiet either.
So am I or am I not allowed to post my disagreeing opinions on this message board, or are you going to bitch and moan about them?
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Knute wrote: [/QUOTENAME]One thing that makes the Beatles example that everyone throws out an unfit comparison is that Queen never split up.
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wrong - queen split up several times....
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wrong - queen split up several times....
What's the problem with his attitude. We should be very fortunate that both Brian and Roger have decided to continue with the Queen name,even if we are not fans of Paul Rodgers.
A s Roger has stated numerous times they don't need the money are are happy to tour.
To be honest i wouldn't be Paul Rodgers biggest fan but it's surely better to hear half of the band doing something then a bunch of average singers doing karaoke versions like what happened at the Tribute Concert.(apart from a select few of course!)
Wouldn't it be great though if John came on for the encore....
A s Roger has stated numerous times they don't need the money are are happy to tour.
To be honest i wouldn't be Paul Rodgers biggest fan but it's surely better to hear half of the band doing something then a bunch of average singers doing karaoke versions like what happened at the Tribute Concert.(apart from a select few of course!)
Wouldn't it be great though if John came on for the encore....
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME][
Brian and Roger are at this very moment selling tickets to concerts where they are billed as "Queen".
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You make it sound like its some kind of crime...;)
Seriously everyone knows that Freddie is dead so I dont think anyone will be expecting something else. And John supports it. Even Freddies mother does.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions but, and this does not apply to you in any way, this anti QPR thing has gotten out of hand. Its now gotten to the point where people are slagging off the 46664-project and even Nelson Mandela just because of it.
Brian and Roger are at this very moment selling tickets to concerts where they are billed as "Queen".
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You make it sound like its some kind of crime...;)
Seriously everyone knows that Freddie is dead so I dont think anyone will be expecting something else. And John supports it. Even Freddies mother does.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions but, and this does not apply to you in any way, this anti QPR thing has gotten out of hand. Its now gotten to the point where people are slagging off the 46664-project and even Nelson Mandela just because of it.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Sheer Brass Neck wrote: [/QUOTENAME]
If you wanted to further your argument, use John Lennon from the Beatles and John Bonham from Zeppelin and stop there. Irreplaceable members of the two of the three biggest bands of all time. They stopped when a member died, because without that member, who they were ceased to exist.
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So when the Beatles released that new song that Paul and George reworked for the Anthology LONG AFTER JOHN WAS DEAD doesn't count?
So that gig "Led Zeppelin - 1" played as "Led Zeppelin" doesn't count?
Sorry, one man doesn't make the band. That's why it's called a band.
Now if Barry Manilow died, God forbid, it would be wrong for his band to continue touring as Barry Manilow.
If you wanted to further your argument, use John Lennon from the Beatles and John Bonham from Zeppelin and stop there. Irreplaceable members of the two of the three biggest bands of all time. They stopped when a member died, because without that member, who they were ceased to exist.
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So when the Beatles released that new song that Paul and George reworked for the Anthology LONG AFTER JOHN WAS DEAD doesn't count?
So that gig "Led Zeppelin - 1" played as "Led Zeppelin" doesn't count?
Sorry, one man doesn't make the band. That's why it's called a band.
Now if Barry Manilow died, God forbid, it would be wrong for his band to continue touring as Barry Manilow.
[QUOTE][QUOTENAME]kingogre wrote: [/QUOTENAME][QUOTE][QUOTENAME]Tero wrote: [/QUOTENAME][
Brian and Roger are at this very moment selling tickets to concerts where they are billed as "Queen".
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You make it sound like its some kind of crime...;)
Seriously everyone knows that Freddie is dead so I dont think anyone will be expecting something else. And John supports it. Even Freddies mother does.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions but, and this does not apply to you in any way, this anti QPR thing has gotten out of hand. Its now gotten to the point where people are slagging off the 46664-project and even Nelson Mandela just because of it.[/QUOTE]
That's your interpretation, but my only intention was to make it sound like "Queen" is still very much a current thing.
Like you say, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
No matter how many times we discuss the same thing, and no matter which "celebrities" support QPR.
Brian and Roger are at this very moment selling tickets to concerts where they are billed as "Queen".
[/QUOTE]
You make it sound like its some kind of crime...;)
Seriously everyone knows that Freddie is dead so I dont think anyone will be expecting something else. And John supports it. Even Freddies mother does.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions but, and this does not apply to you in any way, this anti QPR thing has gotten out of hand. Its now gotten to the point where people are slagging off the 46664-project and even Nelson Mandela just because of it.[/QUOTE]
That's your interpretation, but my only intention was to make it sound like "Queen" is still very much a current thing.
Like you say, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
No matter how many times we discuss the same thing, and no matter which "celebrities" support QPR.