Announce: Definitive Houston '77 DVD

so... how this discussion ended? is or not this version better than the one shared before?

It depends on how much of a purist you are. To sum upl... this one is an NTSC conversion of the PAL version that was seeded here before. If that's the case there is no improvement. But there's also a suggestion that the audio may be improved. But there's still no one who has definitively said whether that is in fact the case.

You all should ask for a reesed of this version:


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Menu, chapters plus [i][b]LPCM MONO AUDIO[/b][/i]

since Queenzone is working like shit today and I can't edit or quote posts, disregard the post above,

here is the right link:

[url=http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=1029072]http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=1029072[/url]

Hi guys,

I just cam back to this thread after a while.

The video on Steve's PAL tape has visible ghosting and was recorded in the USA so we can assume it was originally NTSC.

BUT - this ghosting is also on the "master" which is in the Queen vaults, as you can see it in every documentary where Houston footage is used, which means that also they have this PAL version.

It clearly depends on what you consider a "master". Was it possible in 1977 to use PAL recording equipment in an NTSC environment ? That's an honest question, I was born in 1981 :)

If no, it's logical to assume that it was taped on a NTSC tape and converted to PAL and this PAL tape is in Queen archives now, and is used for all documentaries. So there should exist also an NTSC tape, or ? But if you check the NTSC documentaries, all are using the PAL source converted to NTSC ! So what's the truth ? I don't know :)

Maybe it was recorded as NTSC, but it looks like  ALL existing copies of this footage (both PAL and NTSC) are coming from various copies of the PAL tape(s).

Sorry for the over-reacting on first page, but I spend a lot of time to re-create original video frames of various footages (removing scan lines, ghosting etc. everywhere where possible) so I'm slightly "sensitive" :) BTW even most of these trading sites / communities strictly forbid sharing re-converted footage. Simply because unless you know what exactly are you doing you can do more damage then you can imagine.

Of course I didn't want in anyway to discourage anybody from downloading this, sorry if I did.

since Queenzone is working like shit today and I can't edit or quote posts, disregard the post above,

here is the right link:

http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=1029072

 it's a good version. it takes the audio from the PAL version and increases the volume. you can read the debate on whether it's true lpcm. the version seeding here is good as well... just depends on whether or not you care that it was converted to NTSC.

after checking my version -one of the best I have, I have several Houston versions- I've discovered that it [b]has no[/b] LPCM sound unlike it's stated on the menu so... I suggest y'all to stick to this version or the best seeded in that matter ;-)

The definitive version it will be a true loseless mono taken from a low gen tape, DVD9 (that's all we have, unless someonee finds a true stereo multitrack source)
I think Pete it's our unsung hero for that purpose! hehe ;-P

I have a true lossless low gen audio.
I send queenzone user "928" a copy so he could make the definitive Houston dvd.

Maybe Pittrek can make a definitive Houston dvd?
I'm happy to donate the lossless audio once more for that project.
Unlike "928" I know Pittrek keeps his word.

I know its much to ask... but, can you upload your lossless low gen amazing audio? [img=/images/smiley/msn/teeth_smile.gif][/img]

I'd rather donate it to Pittrek.
He can use it to make a lossless Houston dvd.

That dvd can be shared here and in the end we all have what we want. Right?

Oh yes, thanks in advance to Ducksoup and Pete ;-)

I know Pete can do a wonderfull job with Houston!

Ducksoup - I'm just an e-mail away :)

Oh yeah! I can See a great share coming on! [img=/images/smiley/msn/thumbs_up.gif][/img]  thanks!

For some reason the quote function on this forum ain't working (again).
So, Pittrek: check your e-mail! :-)