What ever. We all know that Queen is the very best of the best. Always has been and always will be. Now I've been around awhile to give listen to most of the popular bands that have come into view. With 4-four musical geneniouses I can not listen to any other band.
Freddie, John, Brian and Roger simply wrote masterpieces and others pale in comparison.
Just my opinion, that's all.
mike hunt · Member since
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Elvis was, as Neil Peart once described, a divine windchime. He did not create the music or write the songs, but in performing it, he made it something greater than most other performers could. He existed at a time when many artists performed songs written and arranged by other people (professionals songwiters were the norm, were widely used and their songs performed by many different artists). There was a massive increase in the popularity of "black" music at the time, by way of jazz, gospel and blues. Black artists were making hits and mainstream record companies gladly had white artist record those song in an attempt to capitalize. But it wasn't that clear cut. White teens in the fifties often preferred the originals. Elvis grew up in the South and was impued with a love of blues and gospel. He didn't rip off black artists, he simply sang the songs he loved, better than most people, and did what everyone was doing (singing the same songs). As a performer, he was the first great natural showman, and every frontman since (Freddie, Bono, whomever) can thank him for setting the standard. In the fifties, it was par for the course to stand politely at the microphone (or sit on the stool) and sing. Elvis shook his hips and danced around and *that* was shocking and new. His record companies and management made Elvis Presley a commodity and a household name, but he could back up the hype with his ability to sing and peform.
I'm not even a big Elvis fan, but he is the King of Rock & Roll for a reason, the same way Michael Jackson is the King of Pop for a reason: timing, talent and good publicity.
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I'm not a big elvis guy either, and I also don't think his version of those songs are any better than the originals, (musically) but to say he was overated is not true. The man was truly a great singer, and like freddie could sing a wide range of music. country, gospel, rock, that's what makes a singer great. He's obviously the best performer in rock history. What does piss me off a little is that the beatles, and elvis, the stones got rich playing black music (the true genious) but these genious musicians died piss poor. I'v been listening too the blues lately, guys like howlin wolf, muddy waters. Those cats were truly brilliant for their time. Dare I say it, even more brilliant than the beatles.
shazamrock · Member since
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What does piss me off a little is that the beatles, and elvis, the stones got rich playing black music (the true genious) but these poor genious musician died piss poor. I'v been listening too the blues lately, guys like howlin wolf, muddy waters. Those cats were truly brilliant for their time. Dare I say it, even more brilliant than the beatles.
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Amen.
And I love me some Chicago blues. Howlin' Wolf and Muddy Waters... Buddy Guy... Otis Rush...
Angeline · Member since
Muddy Waters is UNBELIEVABLE.
Have you ever listened to Odetta?
mike hunt · Member since
Odetta?...havn't heard that one.
Soapy Gonad · Member since
I am only owning Hot Space by Qween, but think it is absoulte rubbish, but my favourite Qween album by 50% at least!!
I cannot think of Qween without touching the cloth of a priest or thinking of other bands like Van Halen or Van Morrisson or Van Der Graff Generator. qwween started the VAn I think (or maybe they were in the BACK of the van smoking heroin and Deacon ahahahahahah[img=/images/smiley/msn/wink_smile.gif][/img] )
Hot Space and Made In Heaven the only Quween albums available in my country because of poor choice.
Every top band is equally over- and under-rated. Queen are no exception.
Loads of people overrate certain aspects of Queen, totally ignoring others. For instance, the amount of voices in Bo Rhap, their performance in Live Aid (a good one, but they played a hell of a lot better many, many times), certain songs... and there are plenty of stepfords who think every little thing they did was utterly perfect and they could do no wrong.
It's the same for Beatles fans, Stones fans, etc.
We Are The Champions · Member since
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People are entitled to their opinions. Record sales and concert attendance speak for themselves. There are artists I think are overrated, but I won't knock them for their success if they worked hard, built up a fan-base and maintain it.
Examples of artists I think are overrated (or overblown):
U2 (they're decent, but their last few albums have left me cold...Unforgettable Fire...Joshua Tree...R&H...and Achtung, Baby were a stretch of great works, but then I've never been a hardcore fan)
Carlos Santana (everyone I talk to seems to think he's some guitar god, but I don't hear it. He's no BM, he's no Mike Oldfield, who I think could plec circles around him)
Coldplay (they just sound so vanilla to me...like Oasis years ago, it's en vogue to love Coldplay).
The White Strips (I hear a WS song and I get to urge to listen to Zeppelin or Queen or whomever WS chose to sound like on that single. Why do they sound like everyone else? I couldn't name you a WS song if my life depended on it [no, seriously]. Someone has to tell me "What you're hearing is The White Strips, dude.")
All this is just my personal opinion. Like whatever you want, or not, it all balances out on the end.
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Oasis are the biggest overrated band ever. Essentially a glorified Beatles tribute Band. U2 on the other hand are a world class act - totally shit on Oasis. I base this on having seen them both in concert at the Millenium Stadium.
Oasis gig was really flat from the start. Thed best song in my opinion played was I Am The Walrus as part of the encore!!! This is a Beatles song as you know. Apart form Wonderwall and Don't Look Back In Anger which were good - they seemed like a band living on past glories - no longer a stadium band and not really exciting at all. I was very disappointed with Oasis and thought that Kasabien were much better. Will not go to any more Oasis gigs or buy anymore of their records.
U2 on the other hand were totally awesome - a brilliant act with stunning sound, brilliant video graphics and Bono voice was just awesome. I was not a fanatic of U2 until I saw their show!!! These guys are very modest, celts and real rock starts as they say. Was blown away by the show and is the greatest show I have ever witnessed at the Millenium. Definitely in my top 5 of greatest live acts ever. U2 not overrated in terms of live shows at all - just brilliant. I am now a big fan of U2! Early albums up to Achtung Baby are great - love Rattle And Hum. Pop and Zooroopa not their best but like their last 3 albums.
Coldplay - musically gifted but boring.
qrock · Member since
[b][i]Sorry But You Posted the Wrong thing aswell, have a check. [/i][/b]
Wiley · Member since
I had a different impression attending concerts by Oasis and U2. I saw Oasis in 2000 in Mexico City and it was a so-so gig but when I saw them again last year here in Monterrey, it was a much better experience. The band played great and the place was packed with fans who sang every song. Great show! They have some GREAT tunes, man, they really do. I have all their albums, except the last one.
They are not entirely original and I understand how a Queen fan could find them boring (less than 150 voices in the chorus? no guitar orchestra?? NO TIGHTS??!) but they are a good rock band. Not as good as they claimed to be, but very good.
U2's show in Monterrey was good but it was in a Stadium and the audience was mixed, nobody knew all the songs, etc. A bit of a letdown for me.
I agree with you: They are true rock stars and they have many great songs but they don't have many rockers and I get bored with Bono's voice after a while. I have 7 or 8 albums of theirs but my favourite will always be "Achtung Baby".
Coldplay?
A few good songs but to me they seem like a soul-less, watered down version of U2. Very overrated in my books. I even prefer The Killers to them.
catqueen · Member since
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People are entitled to their opinions. Record sales and concert attendance speak for themselves. There are artists I think are overrated, but I won't knock them for their success if they worked hard, built up a fan-base and maintain it.
Examples of artists I think are overrated (or overblown):
U2 (they're decent, but their last few albums have left me cold...Unforgettable Fire...Joshua Tree...R&H...and Achtung, Baby were a stretch of great works, but then I've never been a hardcore fan)
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Thank you, thank you, thank you! Thank you sincerely from my heart for saying that U2 are 'decent'. I am surrounded by U2 fans and although I like a few songs and like the idea of U2, they drive me nuts if I have to listen to them for more then a few songs. And I daren't state my feelings... anyone remember the scene in Highlander when he was kicked out of the villege?! :)
This having been said, I do have a lot of respect for them, and i like the idea of them, and i recognise that they are a good band, but somehow, the reality of their music always lets me down.
So thank you Rhyeking.
Queen On Ice · Member since
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[b]rhyeking wrote: [/b]
People are entitled to their opinions. Record sales and concert attendance speak for themselves. There are artists I think are overrated, but I won't knock them for their success if they worked hard, built up a fan-base and maintain it.
Examples of artists I think are overrated (or overblown):
U2 (they're decent, but their last few albums have left me cold...Unforgettable Fire...Joshua Tree...R&H...and Achtung, Baby were a stretch of great works, but then I've never been a hardcore fan)
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Thank you, thank you, thank you! Thank you sincerely from my heart for saying that U2 are 'decent'. I am surrounded by U2 fans and although I like a few songs and like the idea of U2, they drive me nuts if I have to listen to them for more then a few songs. And I daren't state my feelings... anyone remember the scene in Highlander when he was kicked out of the villege?! :)
This having been said, I do have a lot of respect for them, and i like the idea of them, and i recognise that they are a good band, but somehow, the reality of their music always lets me down.
So thank you Rhyeking.
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If it is any consolation, I dislike U2 very much - Oasis too. Both groups very overrated in my opinion.
I can see why they are popular, but I cannot listen to either band myself - barely even one song. Just my opinion though, it is not meant to upset any of their fans.
catqueen · Member since
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[b]catqueen wrote: [/b]
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[b]rhyeking wrote: [/b]
People are entitled to their opinions. Record sales and concert attendance speak for themselves. There are artists I think are overrated, but I won't knock them for their success if they worked hard, built up a fan-base and maintain it.
Examples of artists I think are overrated (or overblown):
U2 (they're decent, but their last few albums have left me cold...Unforgettable Fire...Joshua Tree...R&H...and Achtung, Baby were a stretch of great works, but then I've never been a hardcore fan)
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Thank you, thank you, thank you! Thank you sincerely from my heart for saying that U2 are 'decent'. I am surrounded by U2 fans and although I like a few songs and like the idea of U2, they drive me nuts if I have to listen to them for more then a few songs. And I daren't state my feelings... anyone remember the scene in Highlander when he was kicked out of the villege?! :)
This having been said, I do have a lot of respect for them, and i like the idea of them, and i recognise that they are a good band, but somehow, the reality of their music always lets me down.
So thank you Rhyeking.
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If it is any consolation, I dislike U2 very much - Oasis too. Both groups very overrated in my opinion.
I can see why they are popular, but I cannot listen to either band myself - barely even one song. Just my opinion though, it is not meant to upset any of their fans.
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I love this thread!
rhyeking · Member since
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[b]catqueen wrote: [/b]
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[b]Queen On Ice wrote: [/b]
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[b]catqueen wrote: [/b]
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[b]rhyeking wrote: [/b]
People are entitled to their opinions. Record sales and concert attendance speak for themselves. There are artists I think are overrated, but I won't knock them for their success if they worked hard, built up a fan-base and maintain it.
Examples of artists I think are overrated (or overblown):
U2 (they're decent, but their last few albums have left me cold...Unforgettable Fire...Joshua Tree...R&H...and Achtung, Baby were a stretch of great works, but then I've never been a hardcore fan)
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Thank you, thank you, thank you! Thank you sincerely from my heart for saying that U2 are 'decent'. I am surrounded by U2 fans and although I like a few songs and like the idea of U2, they drive me nuts if I have to listen to them for more then a few songs. And I daren't state my feelings... anyone remember the scene in Highlander when he was kicked out of the villege?! :)
This having been said, I do have a lot of respect for them, and i like the idea of them, and i recognise that they are a good band, but somehow, the reality of their music always lets me down.
So thank you Rhyeking.
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If it is any consolation, I dislike U2 very much - Oasis too. Both groups very overrated in my opinion.
I can see why they are popular, but I cannot listen to either band myself - barely even one song. Just my opinion though, it is not meant to upset any of their fans.
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I love this thread!
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I'm just stating my opinion. I know people who think the sun shines out of Bono's hindquarters. Every band will have its hardcore fans and its detractors. One man's art is another man's scrawl. I learned long ago to not try "to get people into Queen.' You can't force what you like on other people. You can expose them to it if they don't know the music, but you can't expect them to like it. I've had U2 fans insist that I *have* to like U2 because they're great rock stars, talented, write catchy music and put on a great show. They say that if I only listen to them more, I'll love the music. I tell them I like *some* U2 (that aforementioned stretch of TUF...TJT...R&H...AB albums) but I'd probably never pay to see them live. They don't move me as a band, not the way Queen does. They're startled that I'll go see Nick Cave And Bad Seeds or Rush before I'll see U2. I can't explain it, there it is. I'd also love to see Alice Cooper live someday. The theatrics are supposedly top-notch.
What *does* bother me is Bono's self-appointment as the world's conscience about political issues, like third-world debt. I'm caught somewhere between supporting artists making political statements and wanting artists to get out of my face about it sometimes. What really irks me about Bono is how I can't escape his activism. It doesn't make me want to support him or make me even care about what his issues are. It makes me want him to get out of my life. I'm like this about all celebrity news. I don't care about Britney Spears' personal woes, I don't care about Paris Hilton, I don't care which celebrity married which other celebrity or what they wore to the wedding or to the Oscars or where they vacation! Celebrities only have as much power over us as we give them. I choose to ignore them. I can get through life without them.
If you're a musician, I might listen to your music.
If you're an actor, I might go see your movie (I only go see movies which interest me, not because a particular actor or director is attached to it...crazy, I know!).
If you're a novelist, I might read your book.
High-profile people (call them stars or celebrities or whatever) can't expect everyone to care about the things which are unrelated to the craft which made them famous. You can inform the world about the injustices, atrocities and man's inhumanity to man that you see, but you can't force them to care! I want to slap Bono sometimes and tell him that, "you're right, this is an issue, but I don't really care." Maybe that makes me a bad person and Saint Bono will laugh from Heaven when I burn in Hell, but I seriously doubt it.
Isle0fRed · Member since
america doesnt like anything british or any nationality
but if u see the signs
all of the greatest stuff came from non-yankie countries
the greatest scientist
da vinci or entsien
are they american
bands
zeplin, black sabbarth, acdc,
are they american
movies
2001, italin job (1969)
the latter, america fucked it up
