The Beatles ! Oh please ! There was no body else around at that time. Queen were /are in competion with hundreds of bands.[/QUOTE]
That's the dumbest thing you've ever said.
Back in 1960, before there was any music of anykind on the planet, four lads from liverpool decided to try something no one else had ever done before.... form a band.
Micrówave · Member since
[QUOTE] QUEEN are more talented than the bands u mentioned CHICAGO? No where within the same league of musicianship..[/QUOTE]
And this is the 2nd dumbest thing said in this thread... obviously by someone who probably has never listened to a single Chicago album... well maybe Chicago 17.
Chicago were about as diverse as you could get, musically. They changed the face of American music twice. They survived disco and came out of it a lot more successful than Queen.
I doubt Freddie could've sang Happy Man better than Peter Cetera.
All were classically trained musicians, Queen were not.
Maynard Ferguson and Al Green were overjoyed to play record with Chicago. Queen had David Bowie and some guy named Steve playing sax.
Terry Kath was a better guitarist & songwriter.
I could go on....
Sheer Brass Neck · Member since
"Terry Kath was a better guitarist & songwriter." [/QUOTE]How so? Because he knew jazz stuff? Why aren't his solos a fifth as well known as Brian's? I don't know the entire Chicago catlogue well enough to disparage or praise his writing, but with songs like Long Away and White Queen and It's Late, Brian's obscure works dwarves most rock writers best, Terry Kath must have some great music for you to make such a statement. [/QUOTE]
lalaalalaa · Member since
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"Terry Kath was a better guitarist & songwriter."
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How so? Because he knew jazz stuff? Why aren't his solos a fifth as well known as Brian's? I don't know the entire Chicago catlogue well enough to disparage or praise his writing, but with songs like Long Away and White Queen and It's Late, Brian's obscure works dwarves most rock writers best, Terry Kath must have some great music for you to make such a statement.
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Let's see Terry Kath recreate Get Down, Make Love or Chinese Torture. Or Good Company :)
The Real Wizard · Member since
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Let's see Terry Kath recreate Get Down, Make Love or Chinese Torture. Or Good Company :)[b]
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And let's see Queen create the ballet (most of side 2) on Chicago II.
Again, it's not a competition. The two bands were doing two completely different things. But it's true, while both bands were greatly successful in the US in the 70s, only Chicago remained successful there in the 80s.
But I won't go as far as saying Kath was a better guitarist than May. Kath was a great player, but he did nothing to reinvent the wheel, unlike May who brought plenty to the table.
PauloPanucci · Member since
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[b]Sheer Brass Neck wrote: [/b]
"Terry Kath was a better guitarist & songwriter." [/QUOTE]
who saied it??????
Sheer Brass Neck · Member since
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[b]QueenPaulo wrote: [/b]
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[b]Sheer Brass Neck wrote: [/b]
"Terry Kath was a better guitarist & songwriter."
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who saied it??????
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Holly2003 · Member since
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[b]lalaalalaa wrote: [/b]
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[b]Sheer Brass Neck wrote: [/b]
"Terry Kath was a better guitarist & songwriter."
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How so? Because he knew jazz stuff? Why aren't his solos a fifth as well known as Brian's? I don't know the entire Chicago catlogue well enough to disparage or praise his writing, but with songs like Long Away and White Queen and It's Late, Brian's obscure works dwarves most rock writers best, Terry Kath must have some great music for you to make such a statement. [/QUOTE]
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Let's see Terry Kath recreate Get Down, Make Love or Chinese Torture. Or Good Company :)
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Is there anything sepcial about GDML or Chinese Torture (which is torture to listen to). Good Company though..what a song! Not sure anyone could replicate Brian's vision in that song.
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lalaalalaa · Member since
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[b]Holly2003 wrote: [/b]
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[b]lalaalalaa wrote: [/b]
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[b]Sheer Brass Neck wrote: [/b]
"Terry Kath was a better guitarist & songwriter."
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How so? Because he knew jazz stuff? Why aren't his solos a fifth as well known as Brian's? I don't know the entire Chicago catlogue well enough to disparage or praise his writing, but with songs like Long Away and White Queen and It's Late, Brian's obscure works dwarves most rock writers best, Terry Kath must have some great music for you to make such a statement. [/QUOTE]
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Let's see Terry Kath recreate Get Down, Make Love or Chinese Torture. Or Good Company :)
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Is there anything sepcial about GDML or Chinese Torture (which is torture to listen to). Good Company though..what a song! Not sure anyone could replicate Brian's vision in that song.
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Chinese Torture is awesome.
They both have good guitar work.
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mike hunt · Member since
this is when the thread should end. The queen stefords who think no one could match freddie as a vocalist, and no one could play the guitar like brian gets the other clowns pissed off. then these other clowns go out of their way too say bands like chicago, rush, genesis, and many other great bands are better than queen. Are we gonna get anywhere in this thread?......Can we all agree on one thing?....queen were one of the best bands ever, but not the greatest.
dragon-fly · Member since
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[b]mike hunt wrote: [/b]
this is when the thread should end. The queen stefords who think no one could match freddie as a vocalist, and no one could play the guitar like brian gets the other clowns pissed off. then these other clowns go out of their way too say bands like chicago, rush, genesis, and many other great bands are better than queen. Are we gonna get anywhere in this thread?......Can we all agree on one thing?....queen were one of the best bands ever, but not the greatest. [/QUOTE]
No, we are not gonna get anywhere in this thread.
No, we all can't agree on one thing.
But you still have at least one human being to agree with you on this question :)
Holly2003 · Member since
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[b]mike hunt wrote: [/b]
this is when the thread should end. The queen stefords who think no one could match freddie as a vocalist, and no one could play the guitar like brian gets the other clowns pissed off. then these other clowns go out of their way too say bands like chicago, rush, genesis, and many other great bands are better than queen. Are we gonna get anywhere in this thread?......Can we all agree on one thing?....queen were one of the best bands ever, but not the greatest. [/QUOTE]
Maybe the conversations could just continue without you, sInce you can't express yourself without insults, and since you can't follow what's said anyway.
Just a thought...
Saif · Member since
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[b]mike hunt wrote: [/b]
this is when the thread should end. The queen stefords who think no one could match freddie as a vocalist, and no one could play the guitar like brian gets the other clowns pissed off. then these other clowns go out of their way too say bands like chicago, rush, genesis, and many other great bands are better than queen. Are we gonna get anywhere in this thread?......Can we all agree on one thing?....queen were one of the best bands ever, but not the greatest. [/QUOTE]
What's a steford? Do you rather mean 'stepford' as in "stepford wife"? Anyway, I had my head up Queen's ass at one time too(it was my "Queen phase"). Used to think Brian was one of the top 5 guitarists of all time(at least I never honestly believed him to be the best, like a few here do). Shit like that. But, technically, Freddie Mercury was the best rock vocalist based on skill alone.
There's website called Nutsie and on their forums I saw people comparing the best rock vocalists and based on different criteria, they named Freddie #1. The stuff they evaluated included power, range, tone, control - basically everything except popularity and influence. I didn't bother getting the whole details because reading their nerdy over-enthusiastic discussions nauseated me. I mean FUCK! Do these guys have no life? They search out YouTube videos 24/7 trying to analyze what were the highest and lowest career notes hit by Freddie, Jeff Buckley, Bruce Dickinson, etc. They even argue childish where 'that note' "really was a Bb2" adding in parentheses often "(you know it was)".
Enough about that. There were only two people with vocal ranges higher than Freddie's. They are Mike Patton and Ian Gillan. Though, they ranked pretty low in comparison to their awesome ranges. Mike Patton has a really crazy range, I can attest to that. He hit a lot of crazy high notes in Faith No More concerts and many low ones in Mr. Bungle concerts(even extremely low, guttural death growls). His range is more than 1.5 times that of Freddie...
Rick · Member since
They were in great in the studio. On stage, however, rather cowardice and not at all adventurous, which on its return resulted into monotonous setlists (of course, there are some exceptions).
And yes, I'm serious.
Micrówave · Member since
Brian couldn't play Free Form Guitar... that's for sure...
...in one take using an overdriven Fender Showman amplifier and a Fender Stratocaster guitar
Brian never recorded anything in one take.
Brian and Queen have never released any live recording without overdubs.
Kath could also play banjo, accordian, bass, and drums. Brian can't
Kath could sing quite well, as evidenced in Colour My World. Brian can't (as evidenced in Back To The Light, Another World, Long Away, Lost Opportunity, Headlong, etc)