The Real Wizard
Ah yes, the first Crimson album. Gorgeous stuff... especially Epitaph and I Talk To The Wind. Those flutes make me melt every time.
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Saif
The 60's and 70's were the best decades for progressive and avant-garde stuff...I'm not sure if you've heard them, but another group, or supergroup rather, made music as great as King Crimson - Emerson, Lake and Palmer. And each of them were master instrumentalists. Emerson was probably as great a keyboardist/pianist as Freddie. Check out Karn Evil 9 and Tarkus(the medley version) if you haven't; they're some of my favourites. One of their albums had artwork by Giger; quite impressive if you ask me.
I'm always on the lookout for obscure prog rock/hard rock/proto-metal stuff from that era. Some thing's I've discovered are downright eerie and scary. Some of it might not interest many here despite their relative historic significance. Right now I'm looking for this German "kraut-rock" band I once discovered and subsequently forgot about who I believe had written a Speed Metal song as distinctly Speed Metal as Stone Cold Crazy or Judas Priest's Exciter 2 years prior to the release of Sheer Heart Attack. Not having any luck. :(
After I'm done with that(hopefully) I'm doing an NWOBHM hunt.
I'm always on the lookout for obscure prog rock/hard rock/proto-metal stuff from that era. Some thing's I've discovered are downright eerie and scary. Some of it might not interest many here despite their relative historic significance. Right now I'm looking for this German "kraut-rock" band I once discovered and subsequently forgot about who I believe had written a Speed Metal song as distinctly Speed Metal as Stone Cold Crazy or Judas Priest's Exciter 2 years prior to the release of Sheer Heart Attack. Not having any luck. :(
After I'm done with that(hopefully) I'm doing an NWOBHM hunt.
The Real Wizard
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[b]Saif wrote: [/b]
Emerson was probably as great a keyboardist/pianist as Freddie.
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He's definitely far better than Freddie was. Keith Emerson is up there with Rick Wakeman.. !
[b]Saif wrote: [/b]
Emerson was probably as great a keyboardist/pianist as Freddie.
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He's definitely far better than Freddie was. Keith Emerson is up there with Rick Wakeman.. !
mike hunt
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[b]Sir GH wrote: [/b]
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[b]Micrówave wrote: [/b]
A couple of people mentioned Brian's genius on Good Company, that no one could make the guitar do things like that.
Two words: Robert Fripp
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I'll happily be proven wrong. What song(s) are you referring to?
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I don't know what [b]he's[/b] talking about but may I be the first one to suggest [b]21st Century Schizoid Man[/b]? On an unrelated note, [b]Epitaph[/b] is also a kickass song and is the best song I've ever heard with that title and I've head many good ones(like Judas Priest's Epitaph).
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Judas Priest's Epitaph was always a favorite of mine, especially as a kid. I used to play that tune over and over......That song sounds like it had a Queen Influence for sure.
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[b]Sir GH wrote: [/b]
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[b]Micrówave wrote: [/b]
A couple of people mentioned Brian's genius on Good Company, that no one could make the guitar do things like that.
Two words: Robert Fripp
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I'll happily be proven wrong. What song(s) are you referring to?
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I don't know what [b]he's[/b] talking about but may I be the first one to suggest [b]21st Century Schizoid Man[/b]? On an unrelated note, [b]Epitaph[/b] is also a kickass song and is the best song I've ever heard with that title and I've head many good ones(like Judas Priest's Epitaph).
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Judas Priest's Epitaph was always a favorite of mine, especially as a kid. I used to play that tune over and over......That song sounds like it had a Queen Influence for sure.
Saif
You listened to Judas Priest as a kid? Cool, lol.... Yeah, Epitaph has that obvious Queen influence. Mainly due to the piano. It reminds me of In The Lap Of The Gods....the part where he sings "He can't regain nostalgic dreams he'll never see gain" is particularly Queenesque due to the...I don't know? Definitely something.
mike hunt
yea, priest are my second favorite band, Only behind Queen. Shit, I started listening to priest in the 7th grade. About 13 years of age. Long time ago, lol. Epitaph, also the backing vocals sound a bit Queenish. I remember reading halford was influenced by Early Queen, I think he said Queen2.
maxpower
Queen aren't the greatest band ever, even now the accolade if there is such a thing exists still belongs to The Beatles. Having heard the mono re-masters, stereo versions too it just re-inforces everything.
Saif
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yea, priest are my second favorite band, Only behind Queen. Shit, I started listening to priest in the 7th grade. About 13 years of age. Long time ago, lol. Epitaph, also the backing vocals sound a bit Queenish. I remember reading halford was influenced by Early Queen, I think he said Queen2.[/QUOTE] Halford likes all of Queen's stuff apparently. He claimed in a magazine that all he had on his iPod was everything by Judas Priest and Queen.
[b]mike hunt wrote: [/b]
yea, priest are my second favorite band, Only behind Queen. Shit, I started listening to priest in the 7th grade. About 13 years of age. Long time ago, lol. Epitaph, also the backing vocals sound a bit Queenish. I remember reading halford was influenced by Early Queen, I think he said Queen2.[/QUOTE] Halford likes all of Queen's stuff apparently. He claimed in a magazine that all he had on his iPod was everything by Judas Priest and Queen.
mike hunt
I love hearing that stuff, He said if people are gonna compare priest with anyone he thinks it should be Queen..... halford saw them at one of their earliest shows, and said "they were a such a great heavy metal band." It's funny most people don't see Queen as heavy, that's kind of sad. Those early shows were very heavy, songs like son and daughter were even heavier live than the studio. Most people don't realize how heavy Queen were.
Saif
At this metal review website/forum I sometimes hang around - Metal Archives, Queen gets tremendous respect for their eavier material. They totally fulminated against the suggestion of Adam Lambert joining Queen after American Idol ended. A dude then posted that it would've been majestic and orgasmic had Freddie Mercury and Rob Halford sung a duet together.
Some dumbass then quoted him and wrote, "But they would be doing something else if they were together. LMAO". A few minutes later a mod banned him and wrote, "LIEK OMG JOE AND STEVE AR KISSIN!!! LOLOLOLOL.... BANNED(read the rules dumbass). This type of juvenile humor belongs to the 90's". So, yeah, that Queen is underrated among metalheads is totally absurd because metalheads mostly listen to obscure music and that includes gems like Queen I, Queen II and Sheer
Heart Attack.
I read the interview you're talking about too. He saw Queen on their first ever tour. He later said on Blabbermouth(a really shitty metal news site) that he had just freshly joined JP and what he heard in concert was stuck in his head for a while and mentioned how he met Freddie Mercury once at some gay bar in Greece but was too shy to walk up to him or something like that. Either that or Freddie didn't acknowledge him, can't really remember, will try to look for the article. He talked about the time he challenged Freddie Mercury to a bike race. Freddie apparently agreed with the condition that Rob do ballet with him.
Some dumbass then quoted him and wrote, "But they would be doing something else if they were together. LMAO". A few minutes later a mod banned him and wrote, "LIEK OMG JOE AND STEVE AR KISSIN!!! LOLOLOLOL.... BANNED(read the rules dumbass). This type of juvenile humor belongs to the 90's". So, yeah, that Queen is underrated among metalheads is totally absurd because metalheads mostly listen to obscure music and that includes gems like Queen I, Queen II and Sheer
Heart Attack.
I read the interview you're talking about too. He saw Queen on their first ever tour. He later said on Blabbermouth(a really shitty metal news site) that he had just freshly joined JP and what he heard in concert was stuck in his head for a while and mentioned how he met Freddie Mercury once at some gay bar in Greece but was too shy to walk up to him or something like that. Either that or Freddie didn't acknowledge him, can't really remember, will try to look for the article. He talked about the time he challenged Freddie Mercury to a bike race. Freddie apparently agreed with the condition that Rob do ballet with him.
on my way up
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[b]Sir GH wrote: [/b]
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[b]Saif wrote: [/b]
Emerson was probably as great a keyboardist/pianist as Freddie.
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He's definitely far better than Freddie was. Keith Emerson is up there with Rick Wakeman.. !
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Of course! He's a genius.
I just bought Pictures at an exhibition and I've been listening to it the last few days :-)
[b]Sir GH wrote: [/b]
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[b]Saif wrote: [/b]
Emerson was probably as great a keyboardist/pianist as Freddie.
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He's definitely far better than Freddie was. Keith Emerson is up there with Rick Wakeman.. !
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Of course! He's a genius.
I just bought Pictures at an exhibition and I've been listening to it the last few days :-)
PauloPanucci
the same way i think Brian is the best, other think slash is the best!! but now you're count skills and not opinions! so the topic staied a little messy!
brENsKi
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The Beatles ! Oh please ! There was no body else around at that time. Queen were /are in competion with hundreds of bands.[/QUOTE]
you're serious aren't you? f*cking hell...take your blinkers off and try and be objective....the 60s was the most creative decade music ever had....everythign else since is derivative of that decade...
the beatles wrote, composed and performed in a decade when the real cream of tallent was starting to rise to the top...
the stones, the who, small faces, pink floyd, zep, cream, hendrix, kinks, traffic...
grow up and burn your stepford hat
[b]philip storey wrote: [/b]
The Beatles ! Oh please ! There was no body else around at that time. Queen were /are in competion with hundreds of bands.[/QUOTE]
you're serious aren't you? f*cking hell...take your blinkers off and try and be objective....the 60s was the most creative decade music ever had....everythign else since is derivative of that decade...
the beatles wrote, composed and performed in a decade when the real cream of tallent was starting to rise to the top...
the stones, the who, small faces, pink floyd, zep, cream, hendrix, kinks, traffic...
grow up and burn your stepford hat
maxpower
The Beatles had no competition yeah thats right .... never listened to Pet Sounds? The Rubber Soul (December 65) - Pet Sounds (released May 66) - Revolver (August 66) mini competition. Bob Dylan?
Not to mention all the home grown talent which emerged at the same time which they were always competing with especially single wise (when singles mattered i.e. not on an album) The Searchers, The Hollies, The Rolling Stones, The Kinks, The Small Faces, The Troggs, The Who (I've omitted the Mersey sound bands as they all faded after 1963)
They also succeeded in being bigger than Elvis which was the big goal especially in Brian Epstein's eyes.
If you don't like them fine but to be so ignorant annoys me.
No band in history has made such a creative transition from the summer of 1963 with She Loves You to Tomorrow Never Knows in summer 1966.... & yes I include My Fairy King, March of The Black Queen to Bohemian Rhapsody in this argument.
The first band to use backward vocals (Rain) backward guitar (I'm Only Sleeping), first use of feedback on vinyl (I Feel Fine), first use of a volume pedal, (I Need You & Yes It Is both recorded on the same day)
Queen weren't even the greatest band/artist in the 70's which was Queens greatest period. It's personal choice but they're plenty to choose from The Who, Led Zeppelin, David Bowie, Slade, T-Rex, ACDC, Aerosmith, The Faces, Free/Bad Company, Mott The Hoople, The Ramones, New York Dolls, but to me & again it's personal taste The Clash re-wrote the 1970's
Not to mention all the home grown talent which emerged at the same time which they were always competing with especially single wise (when singles mattered i.e. not on an album) The Searchers, The Hollies, The Rolling Stones, The Kinks, The Small Faces, The Troggs, The Who (I've omitted the Mersey sound bands as they all faded after 1963)
They also succeeded in being bigger than Elvis which was the big goal especially in Brian Epstein's eyes.
If you don't like them fine but to be so ignorant annoys me.
No band in history has made such a creative transition from the summer of 1963 with She Loves You to Tomorrow Never Knows in summer 1966.... & yes I include My Fairy King, March of The Black Queen to Bohemian Rhapsody in this argument.
The first band to use backward vocals (Rain) backward guitar (I'm Only Sleeping), first use of feedback on vinyl (I Feel Fine), first use of a volume pedal, (I Need You & Yes It Is both recorded on the same day)
Queen weren't even the greatest band/artist in the 70's which was Queens greatest period. It's personal choice but they're plenty to choose from The Who, Led Zeppelin, David Bowie, Slade, T-Rex, ACDC, Aerosmith, The Faces, Free/Bad Company, Mott The Hoople, The Ramones, New York Dolls, but to me & again it's personal taste The Clash re-wrote the 1970's
mike hunt
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[b]Saif wrote: [/b]
At this metal review website/forum I sometimes hang around - Metal Archives, Queen gets tremendous respect for their eavier material. They totally fulminated against the suggestion of Adam Lambert joining Queen after American Idol ended. A dude then posted that it would've been majestic and orgasmic had Freddie Mercury and Rob Halford sung a duet together.
Some dumbass then quoted him and wrote, "But they would be doing something else if they were together. LMAO". A few minutes later a mod banned him and wrote, "LIEK OMG JOE AND STEVE AR KISSIN!!! LOLOLOLOL.... BANNED(read the rules dumbass). This type of juvenile humor belongs to the 90's". So, yeah, that Queen is underrated among metalheads is totally absurd because metalheads mostly listen to obscure music and that includes gems like Queen I, Queen II and Sheer
Heart Attack.
I read the interview you're talking about too. He saw Queen on their first ever tour. He later said on Blabbermouth(a really shitty metal news site) that he had just freshly joined JP and what he heard in concert was stuck in his head for a while and mentioned how he met Freddie Mercury once at some gay bar in Greece but was too shy to walk up to him or something like that. Either that or Freddie didn't acknowledge him, can't really remember, will try to look for the article. He talked about the time he challenged Freddie Mercury to a bike race. Freddie apparently agreed with the condition that Rob do ballet with him.
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I never heard the bar story, but the biker story i did hear. That was the bike fred used for CLTCL when rob challenged fred to a race. That was a funny story.
[b]Saif wrote: [/b]
At this metal review website/forum I sometimes hang around - Metal Archives, Queen gets tremendous respect for their eavier material. They totally fulminated against the suggestion of Adam Lambert joining Queen after American Idol ended. A dude then posted that it would've been majestic and orgasmic had Freddie Mercury and Rob Halford sung a duet together.
Some dumbass then quoted him and wrote, "But they would be doing something else if they were together. LMAO". A few minutes later a mod banned him and wrote, "LIEK OMG JOE AND STEVE AR KISSIN!!! LOLOLOLOL.... BANNED(read the rules dumbass). This type of juvenile humor belongs to the 90's". So, yeah, that Queen is underrated among metalheads is totally absurd because metalheads mostly listen to obscure music and that includes gems like Queen I, Queen II and Sheer
Heart Attack.
I read the interview you're talking about too. He saw Queen on their first ever tour. He later said on Blabbermouth(a really shitty metal news site) that he had just freshly joined JP and what he heard in concert was stuck in his head for a while and mentioned how he met Freddie Mercury once at some gay bar in Greece but was too shy to walk up to him or something like that. Either that or Freddie didn't acknowledge him, can't really remember, will try to look for the article. He talked about the time he challenged Freddie Mercury to a bike race. Freddie apparently agreed with the condition that Rob do ballet with him.
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I never heard the bar story, but the biker story i did hear. That was the bike fred used for CLTCL when rob challenged fred to a race. That was a funny story.