The Beatles had no competition yeah thats right .... never listened to Pet Sounds? The Rubber Soul (December 65) - Pet Sounds (released May 66) - Revolver (August 66) mini competition. Bob Dylan?
Not to mention all the home grown talent which emerged at the same time which they were always competing with especially single wise (when singles mattered i.e. not on an album) The Searchers, The Hollies, The Rolling Stones, The Kinks, The Small Faces, The Troggs, The Who (I've omitted the Mersey sound bands as they all faded after 1963)
They also succeeded in being bigger than Elvis which was the big goal especially in Brian Epstein's eyes.
If you don't like them fine but to be so ignorant annoys me.
No band in history has made such a creative transition from the summer of 1963 with She Loves You to Tomorrow Never Knows in summer 1966.... & yes I include My Fairy King, March of The Black Queen to Bohemian Rhapsody in this argument.
The first band to use backward vocals (Rain) backward guitar (I'm Only Sleeping), first use of feedback on vinyl (I Feel Fine), first use of a volume pedal, (I Need You & Yes It Is both recorded on the same day)
Queen weren't even the greatest band/artist in the 70's which was Queens greatest period. It's personal choice but they're plenty to choose from The Who, Led Zeppelin, David Bowie, Slade, T-Rex, ACDC, Aerosmith, The Faces, Free/Bad Company, Mott The Hoople, The Ramones, New York Dolls, but to me & again it's personal taste The Clash re-wrote the 1970's
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Agreed, but some of those bands simply arn't in Queens league. The new york dolls?....slade?... I understand not being a steford, but at least give Queen their respect. The faces?......the ramones?....i'll give you the who, obviously zep, aerosmith. The late 60's/early 70's were the best for rock, so the beatles had the stronger compitition. The stones, zep, the who, hendrix, cream. It's not even close.
maxpower · Member since
I was trying to give as wide a spectrum of bands as the 70's were diverse I could have swapped say the New York Dolls for say Black Sabbath for heavy metal fans. I'm a punk fan too so the Ramones were important in that movement like I said its all personal taste. As for Slade they were a fantastic band if you look beyond the novelty xmas hit & Noddy Holder has a great rock & roll voice & they were charting hits 1970-73 before Queen took off
PauloPanucci · Member since
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The Beatles had no competition yeah thats right .... never listened to Pet Sounds? The Rubber Soul (December 65) - Pet Sounds (released May 66) - Revolver (August 66) mini competition. Bob Dylan?
Not to mention all the home grown talent which emerged at the same time which they were always competing with especially single wise (when singles mattered i.e. not on an album) The Searchers, The Hollies, The Rolling Stones, The Kinks, The Small Faces, The Troggs, The Who (I've omitted the Mersey sound bands as they all faded after 1963)
They also succeeded in being bigger than Elvis which was the big goal especially in Brian Epstein's eyes.If you don't like them fine but to be so ignorant annoys me. No band in history has made such a creative transition from the summer of 1963 with She Loves You to Tomorrow Never Knows in summer 1966.... & yes I include My Fairy King, March of The Black Queen to Bohemian Rhapsody in this argument.The first band to use backward vocals (Rain) backward guitar (I'm Only Sleeping), first use of feedback on vinyl (I Feel Fine), first use of a volume pedal, (I Need You & Yes It Is both recorded on the same day)
Queen weren't even the greatest band/artist in the 70's which was Queens greatest period. It's personal choice but they're plenty to choose from The Who, Led Zeppelin, David Bowie, Slade, T-Rex, ACDC, Aerosmith, The Faces, Free/Bad Company, Mott The Hoople, The Ramones, New York Dolls, but to me & again it's personal taste The Clash re-wrote the 1970's
[/QUOTE] Agreed, but some of those bands simply arn't in Queens league. The new york dolls?....slade?... I understand not being a steford, but at least give Queen their respect. The faces?......the ramones?....i'll give you the who, obviously zep, aerosmith. The late 60's/early 70's were the best for rock, so the beatles had the stronger compitition. The stones, zep, the who, hendrix, cream. It's not even close.[/QUOTE]
you didn't take it easy comparing Queen with new york dolls, its the same thing u compare Queen with sex pistols
maxpower · Member since
Sorry I don't understand the last comment
Holly2003 · Member since
I've always thought Queen's big competitor in the UK during the 1970s was ELO, a fantastic band, into harmonies and orchestration, who would've attracted the same fans as Queen did. Yet you rarely hear them mentioned any more. As far as I know, Queen have never mentioned them either. Maybe they moved in different circles.
PauloPanucci · Member since
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I've always thought Queen's big competitor in the UK during the 1970s was ELO, a fantastic band, into harmonies and orchestration, who would've attracted the same fans as Queen did. Yet you rarely hear them mentioned any more. As far as I know, Queen have never mentioned them either. Maybe they moved in different circles.[/QUOTE]
I think that in the Brian May biography say anithing about Queen and ELO, i think...
The Real Wizard · Member since
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I've always thought Queen's big competitor in the UK during the 1970s was ELO, a fantastic band, into harmonies and orchestration, who would've attracted the same fans as Queen did. Yet you rarely hear them mentioned any more.
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I think that's because ELO's music sounds a lot more dated now, while Queen's has generally stood the test of time.
But what a great band ELO were. Jeff Lynne's writing at his best was nothing short of brilliant.
Saif · Member since
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[b]Holly2003 wrote: [/b]
I've always thought Queen's big competitor in the UK during the 1970s was ELO, a fantastic band, into harmonies and orchestration, who would've attracted the same fans as Queen did. Yet you rarely hear them mentioned any more.
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I think that's because ELO's music sounds a lot more dated now, while Queen's has generally stood the test of time.
But what a great band ELO were. Jeff Lynne's writing at his best was nothing short of brilliant.
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The first Traveling Wilburies album was great.
mike hunt · Member since
I got into ELO for a while, a pretty good band. Randy newman bashed them in one of his songs in the late 70's. Their music has dated a bit.
PauloPanucci · Member since
Queen where a little closed to ELO, i think!
kzer_za · Member since
Queen is my favorite band, but I'll agree they weren't objectively the best ever in every regard. While I think everyone should agree they're a great band, I don't expect everyone to love them as much as I do. Once you reach a certain point music is subjective.
And it bothers me when a fanboy of any band trashes other clearly great bands. The Beatles aren't my favorite (though I do love Magical Mystery Tour, White Album, and Abbey Road), but they're obviously a great band.
Oh yeah, and I think Brian May is a pretty good singer and Long Away is one of my favorite songs on A Day at the Races. Back to the Light is a pretty good album, a lot of the songs Freddie probably could have done better with (Driven by You would have been a great Queen song) but Brian still does a good job.
It might sound strange because they're so different, but my next favorite artists after Queen are Nick Cave and Bob Dylan.
