Livekillers may indeed be a cut and paste job, buts as SirGH pointed out, there are many Queen shows from that period which are just as good, or surpass it. A strange decision made by Queen to do so much editing (and only one or two overdubs e.g. on Don't Stop Me Now) but hardly one that detracts from their reputation. And Bicycle Race may not be as complicated as some Rush stuff, but it is a work of genius compared to Kiss's juvenile 3-chord rock. God, they're shit. Total stank. Proof, if it were needed, that people will buy a turd in a box if it's wrapped in bright colours.
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Strange that Queen didn't choose those "good shows" instead of what they released as "Live Killers".
When you can play "God Gave Rock And Roll To You" and "Unholy" get back to me.
BTW, if you want to listen to something
"fantastically juvenile" try listening to
"Fat Bottomed Girls" or "Bicycle Race".
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How are FBG and Bicycle Race juvenile? Are you referring to their content or their music? If you're refering to the music, I disagree as not only was the music complex but the skill level was arguably extremely high. If you're referring to the content, it's subjective, but I don't think that talking about fat bottomed girls or expressing one's desire to ride a bicycle is automatically juvenile. Not all great art need be about life and death matters. Much of it is about love or lust, such as FBG, or about less significant issues, such as Bicycle Race. BTW Bicycle Race is IMO amongt the best written songs of all time, so I definitely don't think it's juvenile.
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"Fat Bottomed Girls" was just another fuck me/suck me rock and roll song.
skip · Member since
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[b]Sir GH wrote: [/b]
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[b]skip wrote: [/b]
It's obvious you know nothing about "Live Killers".
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So where's your Live Killers analysis? We've all done one, right?
[QUOTE]"Bicycle Race" - musically complex? LOL[/QUOTE]
Yes, musically complex. You obviously aren't much of a musician (if at all) if you can't recognize the subtle complexities in the song. Note to self... there is more to music than the lead vocal.
[QUOTE]Didn't need to be at any meeting. Saw/heard clips of Eric drumming in Brian's band and with Queen.
He did an excellent job, per usual.[/QUOTE]
That comment flew right over your head. I was referring to your comment that suggested Brian preferred Eric to Roger. It was a SOLO tour, so he didn't take Queen members with him, full stop.
It brings me great joy to see you continue to spew your ignorance.
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Read the analysis of "Live Killers" online from a person who collected the majority of the concerts from that tour and compared them to what was released as "Live Killers". Not only did they mix choruses and verses from different nights, but they also mixed single words within a sentence from different nights.
My comment that Eric Singer played with Queen went right over your ignorant head.
Thanks for playing dumb, then again you weren't playing.
skip · Member since
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[b]andreas_mercury wrote: [/b]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OSf4QjfT18
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at 0:26 yes that is proof he is the greatest singer ever ...... sure thing my friend... i dont hate kiss at all but here is the man that must stick to his own music.
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and to people honestly ... stop arguing about music complexity if you dont even have the time to actually explain to the guy what it means because he does not understand you - it is meaningless to him ... if you dont do the math and show your calculating then you fail the exam.... until you actually explain to him what precisley is more complex in bicycle race than kiss songs, then you are just to blow hot air ....
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rush is more complex than both in either way you look to it. not kiss, not queen ever had tracks with a drum part as complex as tom sawyer - and thats not even rush most tricky part. i dont live in the crowd to say "complex is better" okay, i like kiss, queen and rush all to different ways. but as far as complex drums go, rush wear the crown.
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No big deal here. He hit the note the two times I saw the show. He also received a standing ovation each and every
night.
Freddie could never have handled that show.
Gregsynth · Member since
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[b]skip wrote: [/b]
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[b]Sir GH wrote: [/b]
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[b]skip wrote: [/b]
It's obvious you know nothing about "Live Killers".
[/QUOTE] So where's your Live Killers analysis? We've all done one, right?
[QUOTE]"Bicycle Race" - musically complex? LOL[/QUOTE] Yes, musically complex. You obviously aren't much of a musician (if at all) if you can't recognize the subtle complexities in the song. Note to self... there is more to music than the lead vocal.
[QUOTE]Didn't need to be at any meeting. Saw/heard clips of Eric drumming in Brian's band and with Queen. He did an excellent job, per usual.[/QUOTE] That comment flew right over your head. I was referring to your comment that suggested Brian preferred Eric to Roger. It was a SOLO tour, so he didn't take Queen members with him, full stop.
It brings me great joy to see you continue to spew your ignorance. [/QUOTE] Read the analysis of "Live Killers" online from a person who collected the majority of the concerts from that tour and compared them to what was released as "Live Killers". Not only did they mix choruses and verses from different nights, but they also mixed single words within a sentence from different nights.
My comment that Eric Singer played with Queen went right over your ignorant head.
Thanks for playing dumb, then again you weren't playing.
[/QUOTE] Hate to burst your bubble Skip, but Sir GH wrote that Live Killers analysis you are thinking of.
skip · Member since
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[b]Gregsynth wrote: [/b]
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[b]skip wrote: [/b]
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[b]Sir GH wrote: [/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]skip wrote: [/b]
It's obvious you know nothing about "Live Killers".
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So where's your Live Killers analysis? We've all done one, right?
[QUOTE]"Bicycle Race" - musically complex? LOL[/QUOTE]
Yes, musically complex. You obviously aren't much of a musician (if at all) if you can't recognize the subtle complexities in the song. Note to self... there is more to music than the lead vocal.
[QUOTE]Didn't need to be at any meeting. Saw/heard clips of Eric drumming in Brian's band and with Queen.
He did an excellent job, per usual.[/QUOTE]
That comment flew right over your head. I was referring to your comment that suggested Brian preferred Eric to Roger. It was a SOLO tour, so he didn't take Queen members with him, full stop.
It brings me great joy to see you continue to spew your ignorance.
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Read the analysis of "Live Killers" online from a person who collected the majority of the concerts from that tour and compared them to what was released as "Live Killers". Not only did they mix choruses and verses from different nights, but they also mixed single words within a sentence from different nights.
My comment that Eric Singer played with Queen went right over your ignorant head.
Thanks for playing dumb, then again you weren't playing.
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Hate to burst your bubble Skip, but Sir GH wrote that Live Killers analysis you are thinking of.
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Then he must have alzheimer's.
mike hunt · Member since
Rush overall was more musically complex, but queen were much more vocally complex by miles and miles. and also played way more styles than good old rush.....Kiss shouldn't eve be in this discussion. A joke of a band.
mike hunt · Member since
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[b]andreas_mercury wrote: [/b]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OSf4QjfT18
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at 0:26 yes that is proof he is the greatest singer ever ...... sure thing my friend... i dont hate kiss at all but here is the man that must stick to his own music.
[/QUOTE]
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and to people honestly ... stop arguing about music complexity if you dont even have the time to actually explain to the guy what it means because he does not understand you - it is meaningless to him ... if you dont do the math and show your calculating then you fail the exam.... until you actually explain to him what precisley is more complex in bicycle race than kiss songs, then you are just to blow hot air ....
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rush is more complex than both in either way you look to it. not kiss, not queen ever had tracks with a drum part as complex as tom sawyer - and thats not even rush most tricky part. i dont live in the crowd to say "complex is better" okay, i like kiss, queen and rush all to different ways. but as far as complex drums go, rush wear the crown.
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Yea, Pert IMO is the best drummer in rock history. Geddy obviously is more complex than Deacon, but i want to see rush pull off what queen did in the middle of the prophet song, or love of my life. Brian is a better play than lifson.
freddiefan91 · Member since
Queen + anybody BUT Robbie Williams
skip · Member since
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[b]mike hunt wrote: [/b]
Rush overall was more musically complex, but queen were much more vocally complex by miles and miles. and also played way more styles than good old rush.....Kiss shouldn't eve be in this discussion. A joke of a band.[/QUOTE]
KISS - 37 years strong - "Sonic Boom" World Tour 2010
Queen - RIP
skip · Member since
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[b]mike hunt wrote: [/b]
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[b]andreas_mercury wrote: [/b]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OSf4QjfT18
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at 0:26 yes that is proof he is the greatest singer ever ...... sure thing my friend... i dont hate kiss at all but here is the man that must stick to his own music.
[/QUOTE]
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and to people honestly ... stop arguing about music complexity if you dont even have the time to actually explain to the guy what it means because he does not understand you - it is meaningless to him ... if you dont do the math and show your calculating then you fail the exam.... until you actually explain to him what precisley is more complex in bicycle race than kiss songs, then you are just to blow hot air ....
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rush is more complex than both in either way you look to it. not kiss, not queen ever had tracks with a drum part as complex as tom sawyer - and thats not even rush most tricky part. i dont live in the crowd to say "complex is better" okay, i like kiss, queen and rush all to different ways. but as far as complex drums go, rush wear the crown.
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Yea, Pert IMO is the best drummer in rock history. Geddy obviously is more complex than Deacon, but i want to see rush pull off what queen did in the middle of the prophet song, or love of my life. Brian is a better play than lifson.
The guy's name is Peart. The other guy's name is Lifeson.
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plumrach · Member since
They can do random gigs with Paul Rodgers I guess, I have seen some clips of them together on you tube and i liked it a little bit mainly because he wasnt trying to be like freddie
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at 0:26 yes that is proof he is the greatest singer ever ...... sure thing my friend... i dont hate kiss at all but here is the man that must stick to his own music. [/QUOTE]
[/QUOTE]
and to people honestly ... stop arguing about music complexity if you dont even have the time to actually explain to the guy what it means because he does not understand you - it is meaningless to him ... if you dont do the math and show your calculating then you fail the exam.... until you actually explain to him what precisley is more complex in bicycle race than kiss songs, then you are just to blow hot air ....
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rush is more complex than both in either way you look to it. not kiss, not queen ever had tracks with a drum part as complex as tom sawyer - and thats not even rush most tricky part. i dont live in the crowd to say "complex is better" okay, i like kiss, queen and rush all to different ways. but as far as complex drums go, rush wear the crown.
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Yea, Pert IMO is the best drummer in rock history. Geddy obviously is more complex than Deacon, but i want to see rush pull off what queen did in the middle of the prophet song, or love of my life. Brian is a better play than lifson.
The guy's name is Peart. The other guy's name is Lifeson.
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I was in a rush.......kiss still suck. 37 years of brain dead music.
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john bodega · Member since
It's pretty fun to watch this topic being bounced back between so many participants. Usually it's just two or three of us ... [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]I'm not sure how to explain the way I see it. I think, pound for pound, the parts that Rush members had to play were fancier, but as far as overall arrangements and frilly stuff goes, Queen were (in their heyday anyway) ahead by a bit. I'm not nearly as familiar with Rush as I am with Queen but that's the impression I get.[/QUOTE] [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]I still maintain that no band should ever be on a pedestal so high that you can't take the piss out of them... if I couldn't make fun of my favourite bands, half of the fun would be out of it. I don't see why Kiss, or Queen, or Rush, or any other band should be beyond a bit of affectionate japery... music should be fun. :/[/QUOTE]
mike hunt · Member since
This guy skip is a real doozy.....A real tool, But he loves his Kiss. But on with the real bands, Queen and rush. I agree Queen in their heyday have the edge, though I also have every rush album. They rock!....two Different type of bands, Can't really compare the two.
