John S. Stuart calling Greg Brooks - Open invitation/request

JSS's stance seems perfectly reasonable. GB's appeal on an open forum is a tactic to induce reactions such as Andreas' and put pressure on John.

John is willing to talk, he just minds who he's talking to. It's only fair

Hopefully the Universal deal will force QPL into putting out better product, but also being more professional about the way to do business

@John S. Stuart:

From a formal point of view, it would probably be most effective to be the bigger man and address a formal letter with your proposal to QP, and sending this letter through registered mail (to ensure that your letter is not binned by some underling like the great GB himself), ideally to Brian May's management (that might be Phil Symes). That way, an official channel of communication is open, the proposal is formal, and you avoid self-obsessed lower-echelon individuals like Brooks.

andreas mercury, re:

>actually when you word it like "deal with me official or fuck off" it
makes more sense
i do not understand why he isn't just write that
himself

At this point, you're better off opting right out of this discussion; you're making yourself look more and more llike a buffoon with every post you leave here.  I guess there's a language barrier "thing" at work here, but your unintelligible drivel is just a pain in the arse for everyone to have to scroll past.

Thanks for popping in.  Bye.

Thomas Qiunn, re:

>That way, an official channel of communication is open, the proposal is
formal, and you avoid self-obsessed lower-echelon individuals like
Brooks.

But if I read it correctly, QPL have known of John's "whereabouts" for a number of years and have made the conscious decision NOT to get in contact with him.  Even when John has made the first move and provided material (Wreckage) to them, they have made the conscious decision to then (effectively) steal from him.

I don't see any reason at all why John should do any more than he is doing now; they know him, where he is and how to get hold of him.  The fact is that doing so would be egg on the face for QPL and an admission that they have not got what they purport to have and all the years of denial (Hangman for instance) would leave them looking completely ridiculous.

Even more, should QPL and John finally strike a private deal, our Greggy-Weggy would become even more marginalised -made than he already is; in fact, perhaps there is a ready-made replacement for the incumbent Archivist just waiting on the sidelines who, in fact, has his finger more closely on the pulse.........?

Not sure if Phil Symes is THE right way of contacting QPL... from my own experiences he is very very very unreliable. Why not contact Jim/Anne directly?

From my point of view this is more about teasing Greg than a seriously meant offer but it's fun anyway :-)

lol who is this Benn douche even?  as if he controls the discussion i like the cute "bye" as if he thinks to me stop posting.  that wont happen, sorry darling ..... move on to the next

I posted this on the other thread too, but what the hell:

As someone was saying up the page, it's time ALL this stuff was out. I respect the right of people to have collections, etc, but time is moving on.

The audience interest is dwindling. At this point now, if I were Queen, I'd be looking at making the whole kit and caboodle available online and for free.

The band and their hangers-on have made absolutely enough money to do them, and their next generation. What is the point of constantly hinting and teasing at stuff that could/may/should be in the archives when it patently will not ever see the light of day? If all this material were really, really commercially viable, it would already be out there.

It's nearly 20 years since Freddie died. I might have been interested in shelling out big dough for archive material when I was in my late-20s. But I now have a mortgage, and so do many of my peers. Other things come first.

Increasingly, I don't see the commercial viability of all this stuff.

What would I propose? Well I remember a half-assed attempt by QPL to do a 100 Best Bootlegs thing - a fiver a time or something? Why bother? Get as much together as possible, get it into some sort of high quality, digital format, and get in bloody online for once and for all.

The market was there 10 years ago - it ain't there now. It will be "less" there in ten years time. These anthologies or archive materials are becoming less and less relevant. The digital download generation coming up behind me - I'm in my mid-thirties now, and have been coming to this board for years, only to see this Archivist fellow exceed his brief on here - are not in the slightest bit interested in a lovely big container with lots of CDs and DVDs any more. The Archivist - if he has done it properly - has done his job. Move on.

Get the site up, get the stuff on it, work with the fans to allow contributions, filter them for quality, and let's leave a proper, accessible, digital and FREE archive - it, at least, has half a chance of strengthening the Queen legacy, and leaving something behind for fans and newcomers alike.


John, just to add, I do not denigrate your commitment, your loyalty or your knowledge. But even you must realise that the number of people interested in what you have in your own archive is dwindling and dwindling fast. There ARE Queenies coming up behind us in the next generation, but I do a lot of marketing work - and while I know they are hungry for material, this next generation MOSTLY - MOSTLY, I said - will suffice with the available album catalogue.

Sorry to say it again, but I truely believe there is just a very limited - perhaps even NO - market to sell to any more.

finally an intelligent man who sees the momentom is all gone and that this stuff must get out now before we are all too dead or bored to bother downloading it.

I haven't posted here for months, but after reading ok.computer's post I must add something to this discussion. ok.computer is 100% spot-on. And I have proof:
For 2 years I manage a forum for inofficial recordings of a different artist. That artist was on the road for almost 40 years and he has a huge fan base. Many of his fans are getting old by now, but a new generation is finding interest in his music. There are some collectors, who own loads of live recordings, but they are sitting on them and simply don't know how or don't have interest in sharing or trading anymore. Our website finally brought a lot of recordings to the public – up to 2008 there were only a dozen available online of maybe 1000! Now that we shared about 100 or 150, we can see a significant decrease in interest. The older fans are only interested in extreme rarities (which none of them will ever share), and the younger fans simply don't care for more and more inofficial recordings, when they don't know the whole official catalogue yet. 
Meanwhile I have heard about a couple of collectors, who died without sharing their collections before, and another couple simply dumped their tapes, because nobody is able to play or convert them. Another heap of recordings burned in a house fire. Many recordings were lost forever.
Recently I got a new, uncirculated master recording of a very special concert. When I offered it for trade to a few people, there was almost no interest at all. Had I done this 10 years earlier, it would have been totally different.
My conclusion in short: Get the interesting uncirculated recordings out while there's interest. The internet makes it so easy to share loads of stuff in no time, and people are saturated easily. New fans will show up, but they have so much to choose from, they won't care for an improvement of an existing recording or an obscure demo. They'll go for Newcastle 1979 or Hammy 1975 instead.

I ate all my popcorn 6 years ago and I don't remember the end of this story. So - did QPL get John's Golders Green master?

Now that's what I call a necro bump.

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[b]pittrek wrote: [/b] I ate all my popcorn 6 years ago and I don't remember the end of this story. So - did QPL get John's Golders Green master?[/QUOTE]

Highly fucking unlikely...

and why should they? with GB throwing his self-importance around

[QUOTE] [b]Barry Durex wrote:[/b]

Now that's what I call a necro bump.[/QUOTE]

Yes. But it's kind of relevant to both the current "war" and the next Queen release

It's a shame that the ones who suffer ultimately due to this silly squabble is the Queen fans, who the 2 protagonists claim to be.