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GratefulFan
So, Sir GH and Brenski, there's this house in Sydney, right? Across from kind of a big cliffy thing. NEVER MOVE THERE. ;)
Saint Jiub
Sir GH wrote: Attacking the person and not the problem won't make it go away, neither will putting words in people's mouths.
Donna was not the first to "attack the person" ... or belittle clinical depression.
Donna was not the first to "attack the person" ... or belittle clinical depression.
Saint Jiub
brENsKi wrote:
i'd trade depression to have my dad and brother back.
If you had clinical depression, you likely would be wallowing in despair and not thinking much about having your father and brother back.
i'd trade depression to have my dad and brother back.
If you had clinical depression, you likely would be wallowing in despair and not thinking much about having your father and brother back.
brENsKi
Panchgani wrote: brENsKi wrote:
i'd trade depression to have my dad and brother back.
If you had clinical depression, you likely would be wallowing in despair and not thinking much about having your father and brother back.
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really? ......................
spoken like someone who hasn't lost a brother and father in the same year
i'd trade depression to have my dad and brother back.
If you had clinical depression, you likely would be wallowing in despair and not thinking much about having your father and brother back.
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really? ......................
spoken like someone who hasn't lost a brother and father in the same year
Micrówave
[QUOTE]Panchgani wrote: I have done well since I was diagnosed in 1989 and obtained the proper treatment. It took three one month hospitalizations over a six month period, but I was finally successfully treated with a proper mix of medications. [/QUOTE]
I always assumed you were a basket case, but you've just made if official.
You're an ass AND a nutjob. Priceless.
I didn't have to have Mommy spend all that money on doctors... I know I'm an ass.
I always assumed you were a basket case, but you've just made if official.
You're an ass AND a nutjob. Priceless.
I didn't have to have Mommy spend all that money on doctors... I know I'm an ass.
brENsKi
Panchgani wrote: I have done well since I was diagnosed in 1989 and obtained the proper treatment. It took three one month hospitalizations over a six month period, but I was finally successfully treated with a proper mix of medications.
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you were clinically depressed? are you sure? or is that what your doctor told you....? he probably only said that cos he was scared of your mommy
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you were clinically depressed? are you sure? or is that what your doctor told you....? he probably only said that cos he was scared of your mommy
Micrówave
OH MY GOD!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[QUOTE]Brenski wrote: just FACT[/QUOTE]
I'm hoping that Brenski's tenure with Treasure Moment is similar to Paul Rodgers with Queen. No long term commitments here, maybe just an album. I think he's using them to put his songs out there.
Perhaps Brenski's 'Tell-It-How-It-Is' lyrics will mesh well with Treasure Moment's 'You-Are-A-Slave' rhythms and produce a new music the world is not ready to hear.
[QUOTE]Brenski wrote: just FACT[/QUOTE]
I'm hoping that Brenski's tenure with Treasure Moment is similar to Paul Rodgers with Queen. No long term commitments here, maybe just an album. I think he's using them to put his songs out there.
Perhaps Brenski's 'Tell-It-How-It-Is' lyrics will mesh well with Treasure Moment's 'You-Are-A-Slave' rhythms and produce a new music the world is not ready to hear.
Amazon
brENsKi wrote: " however, you now appear to be attacking me, without reading my posts in context."
Oh please. I'm not attacking you, and I have read your posts in context. You said that "i call things as i see them" well this is me doing the same.
"thirdly, i made suggestions that may help, it's up to an individual if they attempt to do anything about their situation other than post stuff about how depressed they are."
You weren't being exactly helpful.
"fourthly, as Sir GH said: too many young people get "depression" these days...this is not necessarily their fault, but the fault of a lazy health service who write everything off to depression and prescribve pills cos it's easier than tackling the reall problem. stress is a part of modern life, stress is healthy if dealt with properly by the individual, when they don't deal with it this is where intervention is required. Janet - as a long-time sufferer - made a great comment re: the need for "tough love"."
I don't know whether lifetimefanofqueen is genuinely depressed but your posts indicated that you are ignorant about depression.
"finally, how dare you - your last comment is patronising in the very least. "with all due respect"???? that very statement in the context of what you are saying belittles my loss."
I wasn't belittling your loss, and may I point out, you are not the only person to have suffered tremendous loss? I was simply pointing out that grief does not equal depression.
"I would argue that my loss is far greater than depression"
This is yet more ignorance. It's not about what is greater, it's about the fact that genuine depression is so debalitating that sufferers don't think to themselves 'at least I'm alive.'
"i know what i would rather have - i'd trade depression to have my dad and brother back."
Again, you don't indicate that you know what real depression is. It is a disease. But even if this true, how does this help lifetimefanofqueen? She is still going to suffer the disease.
"and perhaps you are right sorrow does not equal dpression - where did i ever claim it did?"
I can only go by what you wrote. ".that's f*cking being depressed mate....and i'm not lkilling myself "
"but and it's a big but - loss/sorrow can be a catalyst that triggers depression. just because the chemical arrangement of my brain allows me to cope better does not mean my loss is any less significant than anyone's depression."
Nobody said it was. I will point out that the person who began the comparisons between grief and depression and who tried to belittle suffering was you. You also said 'I would argue that my loss is far greater than depression' so unless you are prepared for people to disagree, then perhaps you shouldn't say it. Or it only okay to compare grief and depression if you are the one doing it?
Oh please. I'm not attacking you, and I have read your posts in context. You said that "i call things as i see them" well this is me doing the same.
"thirdly, i made suggestions that may help, it's up to an individual if they attempt to do anything about their situation other than post stuff about how depressed they are."
You weren't being exactly helpful.
"fourthly, as Sir GH said: too many young people get "depression" these days...this is not necessarily their fault, but the fault of a lazy health service who write everything off to depression and prescribve pills cos it's easier than tackling the reall problem. stress is a part of modern life, stress is healthy if dealt with properly by the individual, when they don't deal with it this is where intervention is required. Janet - as a long-time sufferer - made a great comment re: the need for "tough love"."
I don't know whether lifetimefanofqueen is genuinely depressed but your posts indicated that you are ignorant about depression.
"finally, how dare you - your last comment is patronising in the very least. "with all due respect"???? that very statement in the context of what you are saying belittles my loss."
I wasn't belittling your loss, and may I point out, you are not the only person to have suffered tremendous loss? I was simply pointing out that grief does not equal depression.
"I would argue that my loss is far greater than depression"
This is yet more ignorance. It's not about what is greater, it's about the fact that genuine depression is so debalitating that sufferers don't think to themselves 'at least I'm alive.'
"i know what i would rather have - i'd trade depression to have my dad and brother back."
Again, you don't indicate that you know what real depression is. It is a disease. But even if this true, how does this help lifetimefanofqueen? She is still going to suffer the disease.
"and perhaps you are right sorrow does not equal dpression - where did i ever claim it did?"
I can only go by what you wrote. ".that's f*cking being depressed mate....and i'm not lkilling myself "
"but and it's a big but - loss/sorrow can be a catalyst that triggers depression. just because the chemical arrangement of my brain allows me to cope better does not mean my loss is any less significant than anyone's depression."
Nobody said it was. I will point out that the person who began the comparisons between grief and depression and who tried to belittle suffering was you. You also said 'I would argue that my loss is far greater than depression' so unless you are prepared for people to disagree, then perhaps you shouldn't say it. Or it only okay to compare grief and depression if you are the one doing it?
Saint Jiub
brENsKi wrote: Panchgani wrote: I have done well since I was diagnosed in 1989 and obtained the proper treatment. It took three one month hospitalizations over a six month period, but I was finally successfully treated with a proper mix of medications.
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you were clinically depressed? are you sure? or is that what your doctor told you....? he probably only said that cos he was scared of your mommy
The "lazy health service" diagnosed me as bipolar ... twice.
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you were clinically depressed? are you sure? or is that what your doctor told you....? he probably only said that cos he was scared of your mommy
The "lazy health service" diagnosed me as bipolar ... twice.
john bodega
If there's anyone with an informed opinion in this thread, they've clearly elected not to share it at this juncture. I know the readership of this forum is woefully ill-equipped to handle most topics, but this is one that's clearly out of reach. Depression is just one of those unfortunate topics that most 'practically minded' people will never really grasp terribly well. Someone who doesn't suffer it would throw their hands up and go "I just don't get it" - and that right there is the clincher. They don't 'get it' because it's a condition that is literally alien to them, so they really ought not engage in discussion about it until they decide to do some serious damned research.
My real advice to any sufferers out there would be to not bother bringing it up on Queenzone! You'd learn more by sitting on a potato.
My real advice to any sufferers out there would be to not bother bringing it up on Queenzone! You'd learn more by sitting on a potato.
Janet
What is Clinical Depression"
Clinical depression
is a serious medical illness that negatively affects how
you feel,
the way you think and how you act. Individuals with
clinical depression
are unable to function as they used to. Often they have
lost interest
in activities that were once enjoyable to them, and feel
sad and
hopeless for extended periods of time. Clinical
depression is
not the same as feeling sad or depressed for a few days
and then
feeling better. It can affect your body, mood, thoughts,
and behavior.
It can change your eating habits, how you feel and
think, your
ability to work and study, and how you interact with
people. People
who suffer from clinical depression often report that
they "don't
feel like themselves anymore."
Clinical depression is not a sign of personal weakness,
or a
condition that can be willed away. Clinically depressed
people
cannot "pull themselves together" and get better. In
fact, clinical depression often interferes with a
person's ability
or wish to get help. Clinical depression is a serious
illness
that lasts for weeks, months and sometimes years. It may
even
influence someone to contemplate or attempt suicide.
People of all ages, genders, ethnicities, cultures, and
religions
can suffer from clinical depression. Each year it
affects over
17 million American men and women (source: American
Psychiatric
Association). While clinical depression is common, it is
frequently
unrecognized and untreated.
Types of Depression:
Clinical depression can come in different forms. It may start
suddenly
or build up over a period of weeks, months, or years. The
following
are descriptions of the three most prevalent forms, though for
an individual,
the number, severity and duration of the symptoms may vary.
Major Depression: a combination of symptoms
(described above)
that interfere with one's ability to work, sleep, eat and
enjoy once
pleasurable activities. These episodes can occur once, twice
or several
times in a lifetime.Dysthymia: a less intense type of depression that
involves
long-term, chronic symptoms that are less severe, but keep
one from
functioning at full ability and from feeling good.Bipolar Disorder (also known as manic-depressive
illness):
periods of depression alternate with periods of elation and
increased
activity, known as mania.
How Is Clinical Depression Different From Normal
Stress and Sadness?
Feeling sad and depressed is often a normal reaction to a
stressful
life situation. For example, it is normal to feel down after a
major
disappointment, or to have trouble sleeping or eating after a
difficult
relationship break-up. Usually, within a few days, perhaps
after talking
to a friend, we start to feel like ourselves again.
Clinical depression is very different. It involves a
noticeable change
in functioning that persists for two weeks or longer. Imagine
that for
the last three months you've slept more than 10 hours a day
and still
feel tired, you have stomach problems, you're unable to cope
with life,
and you wonder if dying would solve all your problems. Or,
imagine not
being able to sleep more than four hours a night, not wanting
to spend
time with family or friends, and constantly feeling irritable.
And when
friends try to reach out to you, you get even more upset and
bothered.
You lose perspective, and you don't realize that what you're
experiencing
is abnormal. You want to just "wait it out," and you don't
get help because you think it's weak to ask for help or you
don't want
to burden your friends.
These are some of the experiences that people can have when
they suffer
from clinical depression. Unlike normal stress and sadness,
the symptoms
of clinical depression persist and do not go away no matter
how much
the individual wants.
Clinical depression
is a serious medical illness that negatively affects how
you feel,
the way you think and how you act. Individuals with
clinical depression
are unable to function as they used to. Often they have
lost interest
in activities that were once enjoyable to them, and feel
sad and
hopeless for extended periods of time. Clinical
depression is
not the same as feeling sad or depressed for a few days
and then
feeling better. It can affect your body, mood, thoughts,
and behavior.
It can change your eating habits, how you feel and
think, your
ability to work and study, and how you interact with
people. People
who suffer from clinical depression often report that
they "don't
feel like themselves anymore."
Clinical depression is not a sign of personal weakness,
or a
condition that can be willed away. Clinically depressed
people
cannot "pull themselves together" and get better. In
fact, clinical depression often interferes with a
person's ability
or wish to get help. Clinical depression is a serious
illness
that lasts for weeks, months and sometimes years. It may
even
influence someone to contemplate or attempt suicide.
People of all ages, genders, ethnicities, cultures, and
religions
can suffer from clinical depression. Each year it
affects over
17 million American men and women (source: American
Psychiatric
Association). While clinical depression is common, it is
frequently
unrecognized and untreated.
Types of Depression:
Clinical depression can come in different forms. It may start
suddenly
or build up over a period of weeks, months, or years. The
following
are descriptions of the three most prevalent forms, though for
an individual,
the number, severity and duration of the symptoms may vary.
Major Depression: a combination of symptoms
(described above)
that interfere with one's ability to work, sleep, eat and
enjoy once
pleasurable activities. These episodes can occur once, twice
or several
times in a lifetime.Dysthymia: a less intense type of depression that
involves
long-term, chronic symptoms that are less severe, but keep
one from
functioning at full ability and from feeling good.Bipolar Disorder (also known as manic-depressive
illness):
periods of depression alternate with periods of elation and
increased
activity, known as mania.
How Is Clinical Depression Different From Normal
Stress and Sadness?
Feeling sad and depressed is often a normal reaction to a
stressful
life situation. For example, it is normal to feel down after a
major
disappointment, or to have trouble sleeping or eating after a
difficult
relationship break-up. Usually, within a few days, perhaps
after talking
to a friend, we start to feel like ourselves again.
Clinical depression is very different. It involves a
noticeable change
in functioning that persists for two weeks or longer. Imagine
that for
the last three months you've slept more than 10 hours a day
and still
feel tired, you have stomach problems, you're unable to cope
with life,
and you wonder if dying would solve all your problems. Or,
imagine not
being able to sleep more than four hours a night, not wanting
to spend
time with family or friends, and constantly feeling irritable.
And when
friends try to reach out to you, you get even more upset and
bothered.
You lose perspective, and you don't realize that what you're
experiencing
is abnormal. You want to just "wait it out," and you don't
get help because you think it's weak to ask for help or you
don't want
to burden your friends.
These are some of the experiences that people can have when
they suffer
from clinical depression. Unlike normal stress and sadness,
the symptoms
of clinical depression persist and do not go away no matter
how much
the individual wants.
lalaalalaa
I have depression as well. It runs in my family. I also have a social disorder called Asperger's. I know what you are going through. What helps me is knowing there is a new life I get to go to in Heaven. Life seems pretty pointless when you don't believe you go anywhere after death. That's just my opinion.