Brian May to become Vegan!!!!!!!!!!!

rhyeking wrote: Trees are just as alive as animals.

Sir GH wrote: No, they are not.  Animals have interactive abilities, and can exercise
stimulus and response.  Trees are alive, but they can only take in
outside stimulus.  They cannot respond.

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Neither can a comatose patient, yet nobody would claim that they are not as "alive" as me. "life" isn't something that happens in degrees, something is either alive, or it isn't, you can't be "less alive".

Thanks Sir GH! I really enjoyed reading your posts.
You certainly presented me with a big problem since I eat meat and hate animal torture.
The only thing I do for animals is taking part in castration and vaccination campaigns as a sort of population control in poor areas of Argentina.

I will certainly need to reconsider doing something about it.

Have a good day.

Pingfah wrote:

[QUOTE]Neither can a comatose patient, yet nobody would claim that they are not as "alive" as me. "life" isn't something that happens in degrees, something is either alive, or it isn't, you can't be "less alive".[/QUOTE]

Is that a scientific statement or a philosophical one?  Is there a static definition for what life is and isn't?  Is life a boolean principle?

Plenty of scientists would disagree with you.  Under some definitions of life, to be "inanimate" is not dead, but less alive.

This could be an interesting discussion.

juan1921 wrote:

[QUOTE]You certainly presented me with a big problem since I eat meat and hate animal torture.
The only thing I do for animals is taking part in castration and vaccination campaigns as a sort of population control in poor areas of Argentina.[/QUOTE]

Very few people manage to live a life without harming someone or something.  You're clearly living a life of awareness and doing your part, and nobody in their right mind could ever fault you for that!  We can't accomplish everything in one lifetime.

I'm a meat-eater myself, but I do realize the moral issues surrounding it.  As Aristotle said, the evolved man can entertain a concept without adopting it.  But meat just tastes too damn good.  Maybe when I'm a little older and wiser.  Eating organic meat is at least a first good step, as the animal likely didn't live a difficult life.

No more leather trainers for him.

Maybe he'll be one of those barefoot vegans...   :-S

Well, each to their own. I hope Bri enjoys his vegan food whilst I chow down on some badger steaks!! :)

Looks like If Brian will get flu, he probably decide not to take medications. Certainly, the moral choice will not be easy to make here. Destroying a lifeform which merely wants to keep living on, can leave indelible shame on your soul. Let's look at our history. Firstly people did exterminate viruses, afterwards they've started to exterminate other people. How you will look in the eyes of your children if that will happen again, knowing that you had the possibility to enroll the changes, launch the humanity into a new era of self-awareness and climb on the peak of morality where man has never set foot before? 
Stop the holocaust - ban medications!

HE CANT BUY MEDICENE?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!? BUT HE NEEDS IT HE'S OLD!
NO BRIAN DONE BECOME VEGAN OH GOD NO!

wait, he IS GOD!

"Trees are alive, but they can only take in outside stimulus.  They cannot respond."

Bubkes, but I'm glad you said it because it sent me on a mad reading trail across the internet.  I've always loved reading about that aspect of plant life.  It's truly fascinating shit.  Well - it's the sort of stuff I find fascinating.  Maybe I'm getting old.

RIP Brian May.

If he'd only become vegan sooner, it might have lengthened his life and absolved him of his sins.

Sir GH wrote:

Is that a scientific statement or a philosophical one?  Is there a static definition for what life is and isn't?  Is life a boolean principle?

Plenty of scientists would disagree with you.  Under some definitions of life, to be "inanimate" is not dead, but less alive.

This could be an interesting discussion.

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That's a good point actually, it does depend on how you apply the term particularly. A person may be dead, yet their body will consist of many living cells for some time to come after death.

But if you consider that a cell is the basic functional unit of any living organism, the transition between when a cell is alive and when it's biological functions have completely ceased is measurable and quite certain. In that sense, life is an absolute.

I was quite wrong to assume my definition was the only valid one.

[QUOTE] [b]lifetimefanofqueen wrote:[/b]
ok, idk if i spelt it, but heybrian says hes going to become vegan, so he cant drink milk, eat cheese, or wear anything that comes from an animal, that guy truely stays by his word and is very into animal rights, infact VERY much, i think its awesome that hes so interested in this and its his passion, so what do we all think about this?[/QUOTE]

Hi!, do you remember where you read about this?

Off-topic, but what is it with all these old threads being bumped lately??

I was thinking that myself actually, half the threads are old ones at the moment.
I wouldn't mind, but they're all pretty much threads that are conversationally over.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9SuABGeeb8