And about the dinosaur part, I really don't have any idea if they truely did exist. I'm sure it's quite possible. Just because we have bones, doesn't mean we had actual dinosaurs. They could possibly be remains of creatures going through strange evolution, mutation, or just had birth defects.
As far as animals go, man is created in God's image, not animals. God created man to rule over the animals (that doesn't mean I support animal abuse or anything like that). Simple enough, yes?
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"God created man to rule over the animals (that doesn't mean I support animal abuse or anything like that). Simple enough, yes? "
No, because I don't believe in that shit.
+ "MAN" is an animal. We are warm blooded creatures and female members of the human species produce milk to nourish their young. That makes us mammals. We are filed under the animalia kingdom, and we're members of the "great ape family," or Hominidae. That qualifies us as animals, therefore we don't rule over anybody. Granted, we might be more sophisticated than naked mole rats, and we might possess higher order thinking skills (not everyone, of course), but we're still animals. There's no way around that.
No, because I don't believe in that shit.
+ "MAN" is an animal. We are warm blooded creatures and female members of the human species produce milk to nourish their young. That makes us mammals. We are filed under the animalia kingdom, and we're members of the "great ape family," or Hominidae. That qualifies us as animals, therefore we don't rule over anybody. Granted, we might be more sophisticated than naked mole rats, and we might possess higher order thinking skills (not everyone, of course), but we're still animals. There's no way around that.
Categorized by humans............it must be true! (sarcasm). Reptiles lay eggs, so does that mean they are types of birds?
lalaalalaa wrote: Categorized by humans............it must be true! (sarcasm). Reptiles lay eggs, so does that mean they are types of birds?
Bugs also lay eggs. So do fish. Did your sunday school teacher tell you that only birds were able to lay eggs?
Bugs also lay eggs. So do fish. Did your sunday school teacher tell you that only birds were able to lay eggs?
"We are warm blooded creatures and female members of the human species produce milk to nourish their young. That makes us mammals. We are filed under the animalia kingdom, and we're members of the "great ape family," or Hominidae. That qualifies us as animals, therefore we don't rule over anybody."
I was referring to this^^^^^^^^^
I was referring to this^^^^^^^^^
That still didn't answer my question. But why do you continue to argue with me (and others) when you repeatedly say you don't feel like arguing anymore? You're doing a very poor job of making your points so I suggest you just, you know, give up.
It's another day. :D
What question? The Sunday school question? If that, then no.
What question? The Sunday school question? If that, then no.
"God created man to rule over the animals (that doesn't mean I support animal abuse or anything like that). Simple enough, yes?"
Very simple. it's also bullshit.
Very simple. it's also bullshit.
Well nobody was asking you to believe it. I don't see why you have to be so rude about it.
I think that people who study the Bible realize that you can't be sure of anything due to the various stories and messages being handed down from generation to generation, then written down eventually, then translated more than once from one language to another, maybe influenced by the rulers in the church at the time, etc. etc.
So, for example, instead of "God created man to rule over the animals," the original idea might have been, "God gave humans the ability to care for the animals or raise animals," or something similar and it might have been referring to sheep or chickens or dogs and it might have been useful as a way to explain to children why certain things were the custom of the time. I'm just making this up as an example.
And I believe there are ongoing disputes as to what Jesus did and did not say, what was added later, what was made up, etc.
At the most, I think we can view the Bible as a great resource of the thinking and the customs back in those days. But we can't be 100 percent sure of the literal translation of any of the ideas or stories because so much time has passed, and much might have been lost or changed from the original meanings or sayings or stories.
So, for example, instead of "God created man to rule over the animals," the original idea might have been, "God gave humans the ability to care for the animals or raise animals," or something similar and it might have been referring to sheep or chickens or dogs and it might have been useful as a way to explain to children why certain things were the custom of the time. I'm just making this up as an example.
And I believe there are ongoing disputes as to what Jesus did and did not say, what was added later, what was made up, etc.
At the most, I think we can view the Bible as a great resource of the thinking and the customs back in those days. But we can't be 100 percent sure of the literal translation of any of the ideas or stories because so much time has passed, and much might have been lost or changed from the original meanings or sayings or stories.
lalaalalaa wrote: And about the dinosaur part, I really don't have any idea if they truely did exist. I'm sure it's quite possible. Just because we have bones, doesn't mean we had actual dinosaurs. They could possibly be remains of creatures going through strange evolution, mutation, or just had birth defects.
As far as animals go, man is created in God's image, not animals. God created man to rule over the animals (that doesn't mean I support animal abuse or anything like that). Simple enough, yes?
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Yes, "a bit simple" is what I was thinking too...
As far as animals go, man is created in God's image, not animals. God created man to rule over the animals (that doesn't mean I support animal abuse or anything like that). Simple enough, yes?
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Yes, "a bit simple" is what I was thinking too...
"Well nobody was asking you to believe it. I don't see why you have to be so rude about it."
Was I being rude again? Sorry. Put it this way - I'm just baffled that this sort of thing is still going on. It's like those people who still think the Apollo landing was faked, even though *every* single conspiracy theory that has been posited has also been solidly debunked.
Something I have a hard time explaining to people is that just because the Bible is a load of goat turd doesn't mean that there cannot be (or is not) something going on in the universe that there isn't a scientific explanation for. I have absolutely no doubt that some lucky folk are in touch with this facet of existence, or consciousness, or whatever. I think humanity is a bit old to be falsely attributing it to religious texts that would have (at best) only a peripheral relevance to whatever it is that goes on out there.
I'll agree to stop giving the Bible a hard time when the folks in charge of it do some heavy duty editing.
Was I being rude again? Sorry. Put it this way - I'm just baffled that this sort of thing is still going on. It's like those people who still think the Apollo landing was faked, even though *every* single conspiracy theory that has been posited has also been solidly debunked.
Something I have a hard time explaining to people is that just because the Bible is a load of goat turd doesn't mean that there cannot be (or is not) something going on in the universe that there isn't a scientific explanation for. I have absolutely no doubt that some lucky folk are in touch with this facet of existence, or consciousness, or whatever. I think humanity is a bit old to be falsely attributing it to religious texts that would have (at best) only a peripheral relevance to whatever it is that goes on out there.
I'll agree to stop giving the Bible a hard time when the folks in charge of it do some heavy duty editing.
to lalaa x2:
I give you credit for understanding some aspects (and would criticize other aspects) of your beliefs at such a young age.
It was not until I got out of Catholic School and listened to 'Jesus Christ Superstar' before I rejected 95% of the semi-brainwashing (Methusalah lived until he was almost 1000 years old.....puhleeze). But it was pushed on me day after day for years ..............
It still was a good way to view certain aspects of what has gone on in this planet: 'thou shalt not kill, rob, et al'
And.....it took me until my mid 20's to accept a certain relative's homosexuality. Didn't hate him, just didn't really understand it then..........that was my naivety and the times. He served in Vietnam. Bless him
this moves me back to the 'don't ask don't tell' repeal in the USA. From 5:50 to 9:20.....and from 19:15 until the ending seven minutes later. 22:05-22:50 are the best
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS26CciE0VQ
btw......dinosaurs did exist. Noah just didn't have room for them;-)) And..........Freddie would be proud.
Happy Winter Solstice.
I give you credit for understanding some aspects (and would criticize other aspects) of your beliefs at such a young age.
It was not until I got out of Catholic School and listened to 'Jesus Christ Superstar' before I rejected 95% of the semi-brainwashing (Methusalah lived until he was almost 1000 years old.....puhleeze). But it was pushed on me day after day for years ..............
It still was a good way to view certain aspects of what has gone on in this planet: 'thou shalt not kill, rob, et al'
And.....it took me until my mid 20's to accept a certain relative's homosexuality. Didn't hate him, just didn't really understand it then..........that was my naivety and the times. He served in Vietnam. Bless him
this moves me back to the 'don't ask don't tell' repeal in the USA. From 5:50 to 9:20.....and from 19:15 until the ending seven minutes later. 22:05-22:50 are the best
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS26CciE0VQ
btw......dinosaurs did exist. Noah just didn't have room for them;-)) And..........Freddie would be proud.
Happy Winter Solstice.
That doesn't make sense though. God told Noah 2 of every animal (then there was something about 7 animals and such). Did Noah upset God when he didn't bring the dinos?
OK.........I tried. I give up.
The world is not flat, the sun does not revolve around the earth, and please avoid shellfish at all costs....
The world is not flat, the sun does not revolve around the earth, and please avoid shellfish at all costs....