obama confirms osama bin laden is dead

I am so glad to read some of these comments -- i was beginning to feel like i was nuts.  Everyone seems to be so happy about it, but how can we be happy about a death -- ANY death?  And waht about all those people who died or whose lives have been ruined in this 10 year war?  And apart from that, does anyone REALLY, seriously think that ONE man was single-handedly responsible for all the terrorism in the world?  Terrorism was around since the dawn of time and will be around forever.  Killing someone wont stop it.  And apart from that, how can they be really sure they got the right guy?  Or even that he is responsible for everything he is meant to have done, a lot of it was based on fuzzy videos.

ThomasQuinn wrote: It'd have been better if he had been put on trial, but this is at least better than Bin Laden getting away altogether.

Having said that, the numbskulls above who believe that putting down a few more dictators and terrorist leaders will solve all the problems that these individuals thrive on are deluding themselves and others. The unrest in the entire North Africa - Western Asia area, Al Qaeda, tumbling strongman-dictators, they are all but symptoms of the underlying problems of poverty, oppression and fear.
My thoughts exactly.

from a moderate democrat..........

moved to the DC area the summer of '01.  Lost my job due to this d*ck.

Feared for my life pumping gas the next year on the Beltway due to one of this d*cks fanatics who, as a sniper, killed innocent women and children.  A long story would ensue regarding our honeymoon to H'wood for Queen's Walk of Fame, but will not digress.. 

Lost a handful of friends in the towers, due to this d*ck.

Friends in Long Island, to this day, have not revisited Manhatten.  The scars are still too raw.

Had our country torn apart, due to this d*ck. 

He had millions, and could have helped his supporters with food and education, but........caused our country to waste about a trillion dollars needlessly killing people in Iraq while our infrastructure rots and the needy go unfed...........

Eff him.  May he rot in hell, with his 72 year old virgins while he gets his just rewards screwing their dry v*gin*s.

To our idiotic birthers:  do you need a death certificate to guarantee  this terrorist's death, or will pictures and the government's and the military's confirmation suffice?  Kudos to our 'wimpy' president.  Long live the once and future king.

I couldn’t care less if bin laden went down smiling. That smile was his last. That’s what matters. No longer will he be able to entice others to do his bidding – that’s why we celebrate his demise. And yes, I think celebration was/is in order.

I get that it’s odd to cheer the death of someone but this someone cheered, encouraged, funded and planned, the deaths of thousands. We know his death doesn’t end terrorism, but it ends one horrific chapter in our lives. And, IMO, people would have cheered and celebrated if he’d just been captured, not killed. The ‘end’ of bin laden is what people applauded. He chose what that end would be.

If he’d been captured, tried, convicted and sentenced to death, I would cheer for the capture but not the sentence. That, IMO, is murder. This was a battle in his war. He lost. Good for us.

I make no apology for being happy and was proud to be one of thousands outside at midnight cheering when the news broke. Here in NY, we showed our support for our first responders as they drove by, with lights and sirens, in tribute to those they lost to this monster and in celebration of having one less criminal to deal with.

The thick end comes still

Wound my heart with a monotonous languor

Holly2003 wrote: Wound my heart with a monotonous languor
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You know, you'd look less stupid if you'd do your research. The line from Paul Verlaine's "Chanson d'Automne" you are trying to refer to is "bercent mon coeur d'une langueur monotone". This translates as "soothe my heart with a monotonous languor". Soothe. Not wound. The makers of "The Longest" Day got it wrong.

ThomasQuinn wrote: Holly2003 wrote: Wound my heart with a monotonous languor
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You know, you'd look less stupid if you'd do your research. The line from Paul Verlaine's "Chanson d'Automne" you are trying to refer to is "bercent mon coeur d'une langueur monotone". This translates as "soothe my heart with a monotonous languor". Soothe. Not wound. The makers of "The Longest" Day got it wrong. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Do some research on not being a prick Thomas.

ThomasQuinn wrote: Holly2003 wrote: Wound my heart with a monotonous languor
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You know, you'd look less stupid if you'd do your research. The line from Paul Verlaine's "Chanson d'Automne" you are trying to refer to is "bercent mon coeur d'une langueur monotone". This translates as "soothe my heart with a monotonous languor". Soothe. Not wound. The makers of "The Longest" Day got it wrong.
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It's your bad luck that I chose Chanson d'Automne for a year end project in a Grade 12 French class and as such actually own a tattered old copy of Poemes Saturniens.  It's your worse luck that against some odds I was able to quickly put my hands on it this morning and confirm that the line is "Blessent (hurt/wound) mon coeur" and not "Bercent (lull) mon coeur".

When you called me a deliberate moron in the earthquake thread I said that you were in actuality one of the poorest thinkers I had ever encountered on the internet.  I also considered writing then that you were one of the most intellectually insecure as well, but rejected the thought as unnecessarily mean.  But you are.  Much of the time you're all superficial nonsense like the above that gives only the appearance of intellectualism without any evidence of more reliable markers of intelligence like the creative and nimble thinking that posters like Holly2003 exhibit all the time.  You really need to stop calling people stupid and moronic, and people who accept and admire your 'wisdom' without question really need to reconsider.

magicalfreddiemercury wrote: I make no apology for being happy and was proud to be one of thousands outside at midnight cheering when the news broke. Here in NY, we showed our support for our first responders as they drove by, with lights and sirens, in tribute to those they lost to this monster and in celebration of having one less criminal to deal with. ============================ I thought of you last night when I read a piece in the Toronto Star "It lessens us to revel in bin Laden's death". I find it very easy to slip into an empathetic mode, even for Osama bin Laden.  It's not hard to imagine his perspective as valid to him, not hard to imagine the difficult realities of living caged for the last years of his life,  not hard to feel what the end must have felt like, and not hard to feel regret about any violent human death.  I can do it as easily for any one of his victims. It's just fallout of a tendency to empathy and perhaps idealism, which isn't a part of me that I'd trade away, but it's important to know when your own sensibilities just aren't  up to a task.  That's why I think you're right and that opinion piece above is wrong.  Bin Laden's death is something that needs to be viewed with cold rationality, and any wanderings into personal moral codes at the expense of his countless effective victims almost become indulgent.  As I've said many times in my life you've got to know what you don't know.

And another kind of interesting angle:  Selling Osama Would anybody personally wear/affix/commit to dusting any Osama is dead gear? Or buy for someone else?

Damn, no death photo is coming out.  Where's that Wikileaks when you need 'em??  Leak the photos, damnit!

It will probably take a while for the news to sink in.

I am relieved that he was found, and grateful that the job of finding him was not given up on after all these years.  Is it worth cheering over?  Sure.  If I had been down at the White House I would have cheered also.  Those military special ops guys are very brave.  They had no way of knowing if they were coming out of that mission alive or not.  It was a very high risk situation and they were successful.  It is too bad they were not able to capture him alive for questioning purposes, but they had to do what was necessary at the time.

Donna13 wrote:

Sure.  If I had been down at the White House I would have cheered also.
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I've never ever cheered another man's death and am not planning to start doing that anytime soon.

Sure, he was an asshole to say the least, but cheering someone's death is a very strange thing to do, whoever it was.

I didn't say I would cheer his death.  I would never cheer anyone's death.  I would be cheering for the success of the mission to find him.  And it would be completely appropriate.