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Fone Bone
[QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Sheer Brass Neck wrote:[/b]
That Bowie medley was a joke, he moves like a Broadway chorus line member and his voice is nice, but for me, has zero grit or soul. [/QUOTE]
Yep. He sounds a bit like Sebastian Bach. Can hit (some of) the notes but it just doesn't sound good. Personal opinion of course: to others it obviously sounds great. But it doesn't do anything for me.[/QUOTE]
I once saw Sebastian Bach on Broadway performing Jekyll & Hyde. It was something of an embarassement, yet I reckon Adam Bolton singing Queen songs tunelessly with the infamous fast vibrato for 2 hours in front of metalheads will top this effortlessly
[QUOTE] [b]Sheer Brass Neck wrote:[/b]
That Bowie medley was a joke, he moves like a Broadway chorus line member and his voice is nice, but for me, has zero grit or soul. [/QUOTE]
Yep. He sounds a bit like Sebastian Bach. Can hit (some of) the notes but it just doesn't sound good. Personal opinion of course: to others it obviously sounds great. But it doesn't do anything for me.[/QUOTE]
I once saw Sebastian Bach on Broadway performing Jekyll & Hyde. It was something of an embarassement, yet I reckon Adam Bolton singing Queen songs tunelessly with the infamous fast vibrato for 2 hours in front of metalheads will top this effortlessly
shanoon
those Adam links were pretty bad..cheesy..
though i did like him in the american idol.. this was brilliant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XpISZJsRBU
and i'm in the minority that liked his version of TSMGO at the EMA's. of course nothing compared to the original, but way better than paul or even elton.
though i did like him in the american idol.. this was brilliant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XpISZJsRBU
and i'm in the minority that liked his version of TSMGO at the EMA's. of course nothing compared to the original, but way better than paul or even elton.
madmetaltom
I cant wait!! Roger said him and Brain will sing more!!
Donna13
Lately I've noticed that when I read a news story online that has a comment section, the people who comment are mostly negative or they are competing with each other to make the most clever insulting or sarcastic statement.
I think it is the same here. Brian claims he was flooded with positive feedback about the idea of working with Adam and I guess the reaction of Adam's performance was very positive. Most here agree it was not a great performance at the MTV Europe event. Oversinging, too much sounding like a goat, hitting the wrong notes. And I agree. And I like Adam a lot of the time.
But with Paul we had plenty of complaints also: didn't know the words, had funny pronunciation, looked like Chuck Norris, turned the end of lines into bluesy sounding notes, lost enthusiasm and energy toward the end of the tour.
Still there were plenty who went to the shows and were happy to see Brian and Roger play and sing and talk to the audience. Brian and Roger do not run around meeting fans so to see them at all is a treat. If they feel confident performing with various singers then we will keep seeing new singers each year maybe until they cannot go on stage due to a physical problem.
I think that Adam has a lot of potential to sing some of Queen's songs quite well. And even if he is not perfect it will be fun for me to see the performances. I hope they come to the USA again. Whoever they get as a singer, I will go to see them.
I think it is the same here. Brian claims he was flooded with positive feedback about the idea of working with Adam and I guess the reaction of Adam's performance was very positive. Most here agree it was not a great performance at the MTV Europe event. Oversinging, too much sounding like a goat, hitting the wrong notes. And I agree. And I like Adam a lot of the time.
But with Paul we had plenty of complaints also: didn't know the words, had funny pronunciation, looked like Chuck Norris, turned the end of lines into bluesy sounding notes, lost enthusiasm and energy toward the end of the tour.
Still there were plenty who went to the shows and were happy to see Brian and Roger play and sing and talk to the audience. Brian and Roger do not run around meeting fans so to see them at all is a treat. If they feel confident performing with various singers then we will keep seeing new singers each year maybe until they cannot go on stage due to a physical problem.
I think that Adam has a lot of potential to sing some of Queen's songs quite well. And even if he is not perfect it will be fun for me to see the performances. I hope they come to the USA again. Whoever they get as a singer, I will go to see them.
ATRUEFANWITHPATIENCE
Ok new member here, omg there are alot of bitter people on here. How important do some of you guys think you are in the grand scheme of things? I have been a Queen/Freddie/Smile/Brian/Roger fan for along time now, at least 25 years! Yes, at times the guys have made some strange decisions, but ultimately thats their choice. They do what they think is right. If that is not to everyones liking thats just too bad. I never got to see Queen with Freddie live, and I hate that fact. So I will take any opportunity to see any form they take now that i can. Q and PR were great, I saw them 4 times. Every show wasn't perfect any show by anyone never is!! And as for Adam Lambert, the guy has a great voice, and I agree with (most of you it seems) that he isn't the choice I would have gone with either but will do a great job. I think Brian and Roger will work with him, to tone down his performance a little perhaps, plus Our guys are going to also sing quite alot, plus according to Roger are going to have a few other guest singers. I think there have been a few comments on here that have actually been offensive, this may be my first and last ever post on here, but just thought i had to add some logic. Life isn't perfect, get over it! And enjoy it while you can.
john bodega
To offer any kind of positive comment, I imagine that a rehearsal or two might well tone down the sort of serious problems present in his AMA show.
Honestly, he really isn't lacking in technique or range, but by God he has to start caring about the music. He presents himself like a teenage girl in the mirror - he really does not care about subject matter or taste.
Honestly, he really isn't lacking in technique or range, but by God he has to start caring about the music. He presents himself like a teenage girl in the mirror - he really does not care about subject matter or taste.
GratefulFan
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[b]Donna13 wrote: [/b] Lately I've noticed that when I read a news story online that has a comment section, the people who comment are mostly negative or they are competing with each other to make the most clever insulting or sarcastic statement.
I think it is the same here. Brian claims he was flooded with positive feedback about the idea of working with Adam and I guess the reaction of Adam's performance was very positive. Most here agree it was not a great performance at the MTV Europe event. Oversinging, too much sounding like a goat, hitting the wrong notes. And I agree. And I like Adam a lot of the time. [/QUOTE]
Too many newspaper comment sections have become cesspits, with virtually everybody interested in a reasonable and thoughtful discussion long flown. What's left behind is so skewed and generally unhealthy that I've begun to wonder if the more serious publications shouldn't just shut them down in the public interest. Queenzone seems far from that point, though it's negative enough that I do appreciate the persistently positive voices not only for their thoughts but just for being there even it I don't always agree. What I'm less enthusiastic about is the treatment of negative views as something like a personality disorder rather than legitimate criticism of things that can legitimately be classed as crap. The 'negative people' spend time evaluating product and creative decisions presented for public consumption while the 'positive people' seem to spend an awful lot of time evaluating the negative people. It's ironic in it's way.
If Queenzone is skewed to the unhappy I can assure you with a good deal of certainty that Brian's inbox is sure as hell skewed to the happy. If you've ever read his letters section it's pretty clear that he's got a significant sycophant filter in place somewhere along the line. And Brian's own behaviour and thin skinned response to any direct or indirect criticism in recent years has effectively insulated him from any reality checks he might benefit from because few would bother. Regardless, what kind of measure of artistic merit is somebody's inbox anyway? When I read that I wondered a little who he was trying to convince, this man who has always seen himself as being about the quality of the music, often in contrast with others he sees as being about something else.
The collaboration with Paul Rodgers grew out of something organic and musical and spontaneous and exciting. If it was sometimes the right guy singing the wrong songs the wrong way, I never doubted he was the right guy. The Lambert collaboration, if Brian is to be believed, grew out of people ringing his phone off the hook after the EMAs keen to capitalize on 'that particular combination'. You'd have to be nuts to think anybody was musically inspired by "that particular combination" after the EMAs. So this much more than Rodgers seems to be a manufactured opportunity that makes sense only very superficially, like throwing Rhianna and Coldplay together at the recent Grammys. And when there are surely very limited opportunities in the future, if any at all, to see Roger and Brian live it feels deeply disappointing to some. That's very real to people. It's easy to say 'well just don't go', but people don't get I don't think how much many would love to go if they were going to something they believed and something that inspired them. There are very few places in Europe or North America I wouldn't find a way to get to to see Roger and Brian do something real and inspiring. I would not - and this is the God's honest truth - I would not go to see Adam Lambert with anybody, and certainly not with Queen, if they were playing my local arena and the tickets were free. If there is a chorus line in hell it surely looks and sounds something like that Bowie medley. And those feelings are very, very real to the people that have them.
[b]Donna13 wrote: [/b] Lately I've noticed that when I read a news story online that has a comment section, the people who comment are mostly negative or they are competing with each other to make the most clever insulting or sarcastic statement.
I think it is the same here. Brian claims he was flooded with positive feedback about the idea of working with Adam and I guess the reaction of Adam's performance was very positive. Most here agree it was not a great performance at the MTV Europe event. Oversinging, too much sounding like a goat, hitting the wrong notes. And I agree. And I like Adam a lot of the time. [/QUOTE]
Too many newspaper comment sections have become cesspits, with virtually everybody interested in a reasonable and thoughtful discussion long flown. What's left behind is so skewed and generally unhealthy that I've begun to wonder if the more serious publications shouldn't just shut them down in the public interest. Queenzone seems far from that point, though it's negative enough that I do appreciate the persistently positive voices not only for their thoughts but just for being there even it I don't always agree. What I'm less enthusiastic about is the treatment of negative views as something like a personality disorder rather than legitimate criticism of things that can legitimately be classed as crap. The 'negative people' spend time evaluating product and creative decisions presented for public consumption while the 'positive people' seem to spend an awful lot of time evaluating the negative people. It's ironic in it's way.
If Queenzone is skewed to the unhappy I can assure you with a good deal of certainty that Brian's inbox is sure as hell skewed to the happy. If you've ever read his letters section it's pretty clear that he's got a significant sycophant filter in place somewhere along the line. And Brian's own behaviour and thin skinned response to any direct or indirect criticism in recent years has effectively insulated him from any reality checks he might benefit from because few would bother. Regardless, what kind of measure of artistic merit is somebody's inbox anyway? When I read that I wondered a little who he was trying to convince, this man who has always seen himself as being about the quality of the music, often in contrast with others he sees as being about something else.
The collaboration with Paul Rodgers grew out of something organic and musical and spontaneous and exciting. If it was sometimes the right guy singing the wrong songs the wrong way, I never doubted he was the right guy. The Lambert collaboration, if Brian is to be believed, grew out of people ringing his phone off the hook after the EMAs keen to capitalize on 'that particular combination'. You'd have to be nuts to think anybody was musically inspired by "that particular combination" after the EMAs. So this much more than Rodgers seems to be a manufactured opportunity that makes sense only very superficially, like throwing Rhianna and Coldplay together at the recent Grammys. And when there are surely very limited opportunities in the future, if any at all, to see Roger and Brian live it feels deeply disappointing to some. That's very real to people. It's easy to say 'well just don't go', but people don't get I don't think how much many would love to go if they were going to something they believed and something that inspired them. There are very few places in Europe or North America I wouldn't find a way to get to to see Roger and Brian do something real and inspiring. I would not - and this is the God's honest truth - I would not go to see Adam Lambert with anybody, and certainly not with Queen, if they were playing my local arena and the tickets were free. If there is a chorus line in hell it surely looks and sounds something like that Bowie medley. And those feelings are very, very real to the people that have them.
someonewholikesadam
Zebonka,
Everyone is entitled to his opinion but I think Adam puts his heart and soul into every performance. I am 52 years old so am of the Queen era. I love Freddie and Adam is def. NOT Freddie. But I have watched Adam's career from before American Idol to present and he is one of a kind. He is smart, funny, a fearless performer and so much fun to watch. Unfortunately, in my three years following Adam, I've learned the degree to which homophobia exists and it is sad and very frightening. To any of you who have or may some day have a gay child (I do not), my heart breaks. In closing, Freddie is one of a kind and so is Adam. He may not be your cup of tea but don't knock him until you truly get to know him. I came on this board because I saw what people were posting on Queen's Facebook page and it sickened me. At least Adam's fans are decent people. I'm sure some of Queen's fans are, too, but you would never know it from the posts. I humbly step down from my soapbox.
Everyone is entitled to his opinion but I think Adam puts his heart and soul into every performance. I am 52 years old so am of the Queen era. I love Freddie and Adam is def. NOT Freddie. But I have watched Adam's career from before American Idol to present and he is one of a kind. He is smart, funny, a fearless performer and so much fun to watch. Unfortunately, in my three years following Adam, I've learned the degree to which homophobia exists and it is sad and very frightening. To any of you who have or may some day have a gay child (I do not), my heart breaks. In closing, Freddie is one of a kind and so is Adam. He may not be your cup of tea but don't knock him until you truly get to know him. I came on this board because I saw what people were posting on Queen's Facebook page and it sickened me. At least Adam's fans are decent people. I'm sure some of Queen's fans are, too, but you would never know it from the posts. I humbly step down from my soapbox.
someonewholikesadam
Oh, and Zebonka, can't a guy ever live down one AMA performance???? He likes to shock. He was nervous. It was the worst he ever sang and he knew it. It was a memorable performance :)
jeffuk49
perhaps a guest bass player, just imagine it Freddie on the big screen and ladies and gentleman Mr John Deacon
Donna13
I haven't seen any homophobic comments here. I think comments about stage presence and about the performance of the music are all I've seen. But if a performer is overly concerned with image over substance, then that could be distracting from the quality of the musical performance. Freddie knew he was good looking and had on interesting clothing but he always was about the music one hundred percent.
someonewholikesadam
Donna,
Didn't you see the comment on this board that Freddie was gay but Adam Lambert is a fag? One among several. Adam is very much concerned with substance, but he is also very theatrical and likes to dress up and put on a show that is visually interesting as well. But for us true fans, the outfits are only an interesting side note to the wonderful music. also, don't forget. Adam is from a different generation than Freddie. He grew up watching Madonna wearing all her costumes. He is toning down his look considerably for his second album to appeal to a broader audience. Adam is smart and realizes that his look is not for all. Hopefully, he won't change too much because we love him just as he is. P.S. If you go onto Queen's Facebook page, the comments are mostly homophobic and disgusting.
Didn't you see the comment on this board that Freddie was gay but Adam Lambert is a fag? One among several. Adam is very much concerned with substance, but he is also very theatrical and likes to dress up and put on a show that is visually interesting as well. But for us true fans, the outfits are only an interesting side note to the wonderful music. also, don't forget. Adam is from a different generation than Freddie. He grew up watching Madonna wearing all her costumes. He is toning down his look considerably for his second album to appeal to a broader audience. Adam is smart and realizes that his look is not for all. Hopefully, he won't change too much because we love him just as he is. P.S. If you go onto Queen's Facebook page, the comments are mostly homophobic and disgusting.
someonewholikesadam
Donna,
But I am curious. What does a person who is not an Adam fan see that makes them believe Adam's image distracts from the music whereas Freddie's didn't?
But I am curious. What does a person who is not an Adam fan see that makes them believe Adam's image distracts from the music whereas Freddie's didn't?
e-man
[QUOTE] [b]GratefulFan wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Donna13 wrote: [/b] Lately I've noticed that when I read a news story online that has a comment section, the people who comment are mostly negative or they are competing with each other to make the most clever insulting or sarcastic statement. I think it is the same here. Brian claims he was flooded with positive feedback about the idea of working with Adam and I guess the reaction of Adam's performance was very positive. Most here agree it was not a great performance at the MTV Europe event. Oversinging, too much sounding like a goat, hitting the wrong notes. And I agree. And I like Adam a lot of the time. [/QUOTE] Too many newspaper comment sections have become cesspits, with virtually everybody interested in a reasonable and thoughtful discussion long flown. What's left behind is so skewed and generally unhealthy that I've begun to wonder if the more serious publications shouldn't just shut them down in the public interest. Queenzone seems far from that point, though it's negative enough that I do appreciate the persistently positive voices not only for their thoughts but just for being there even it I don't always agree. What I'm less enthusiastic about is the treatment of negative views as something like a personality disorder rather than legitimate criticism of things that can legitimately be classed as crap. The 'negative people' spend time evaluating product and creative decisions presented for public consumption while the 'positive people' seem to spend an awful lot of time evaluating the negative people. It's ironic in it's way.If Queenzone is skewed to the unhappy I can assure you with a good deal of certainty that Brian's inbox is sure as hell skewed to the happy. If you've ever read his letters section it's pretty clear that he's got a significant sycophant filter in place somewhere along the line. And Brian's own behaviour and thin skinned response to any direct or indirect criticism in recent years has effectively insulated him from any reality checks he might benefit from because few would bother. Regardless, what kind of measure of artistic merit is somebody's inbox anyway? When I read that I wondered a little who he was trying to convince, this man who has always seen himself as being about the quality of the music, often in contrast with others he sees as being about something else.The collaboration with Paul Rodgers grew out of something organic and musical and spontaneous and exciting. If it was sometimes the right guy singing the wrong songs the wrong way, I never doubted he was the right guy. The Lambert collaboration, if Brian is to be believed, grew out of people ringing his phone off the hook after the EMAs keen to capitalize on 'that particular combination'. You'd have to be nuts to think anybody was musically inspired by "that particular combination" after the EMAs. So this much more than Rodgers seems to be a manufactured opportunity that makes sense only very superficially, like throwing Rhianna and Coldplay together at the recent Grammys. And when there are surely very limited opportunities in the future, if any at all, to see Roger and Brian live it feels deeply disappointing to some. That's very real to people. It's easy to say 'well just don't go', but people don't get I don't think how much many would love to go if they were going to something they believed and something that inspired them. There are very few places in Europe or North America I wouldn't find a way to get to to see Roger and Brian do something real and inspiring. I would not - and this is the God's honest truth - I would not go to see Adam Lambert with anybody, and certainly not with Queen, if they were playing my local arena and the tickets were free. If there is a chorus line in hell it surely looks and sounds something like that Bowie medley. And those feelings are very, very real to the people that have them.[/QUOTE]
BRILLIANT post.
[QUOTE] [b]Donna13 wrote: [/b] Lately I've noticed that when I read a news story online that has a comment section, the people who comment are mostly negative or they are competing with each other to make the most clever insulting or sarcastic statement. I think it is the same here. Brian claims he was flooded with positive feedback about the idea of working with Adam and I guess the reaction of Adam's performance was very positive. Most here agree it was not a great performance at the MTV Europe event. Oversinging, too much sounding like a goat, hitting the wrong notes. And I agree. And I like Adam a lot of the time. [/QUOTE] Too many newspaper comment sections have become cesspits, with virtually everybody interested in a reasonable and thoughtful discussion long flown. What's left behind is so skewed and generally unhealthy that I've begun to wonder if the more serious publications shouldn't just shut them down in the public interest. Queenzone seems far from that point, though it's negative enough that I do appreciate the persistently positive voices not only for their thoughts but just for being there even it I don't always agree. What I'm less enthusiastic about is the treatment of negative views as something like a personality disorder rather than legitimate criticism of things that can legitimately be classed as crap. The 'negative people' spend time evaluating product and creative decisions presented for public consumption while the 'positive people' seem to spend an awful lot of time evaluating the negative people. It's ironic in it's way.If Queenzone is skewed to the unhappy I can assure you with a good deal of certainty that Brian's inbox is sure as hell skewed to the happy. If you've ever read his letters section it's pretty clear that he's got a significant sycophant filter in place somewhere along the line. And Brian's own behaviour and thin skinned response to any direct or indirect criticism in recent years has effectively insulated him from any reality checks he might benefit from because few would bother. Regardless, what kind of measure of artistic merit is somebody's inbox anyway? When I read that I wondered a little who he was trying to convince, this man who has always seen himself as being about the quality of the music, often in contrast with others he sees as being about something else.The collaboration with Paul Rodgers grew out of something organic and musical and spontaneous and exciting. If it was sometimes the right guy singing the wrong songs the wrong way, I never doubted he was the right guy. The Lambert collaboration, if Brian is to be believed, grew out of people ringing his phone off the hook after the EMAs keen to capitalize on 'that particular combination'. You'd have to be nuts to think anybody was musically inspired by "that particular combination" after the EMAs. So this much more than Rodgers seems to be a manufactured opportunity that makes sense only very superficially, like throwing Rhianna and Coldplay together at the recent Grammys. And when there are surely very limited opportunities in the future, if any at all, to see Roger and Brian live it feels deeply disappointing to some. That's very real to people. It's easy to say 'well just don't go', but people don't get I don't think how much many would love to go if they were going to something they believed and something that inspired them. There are very few places in Europe or North America I wouldn't find a way to get to to see Roger and Brian do something real and inspiring. I would not - and this is the God's honest truth - I would not go to see Adam Lambert with anybody, and certainly not with Queen, if they were playing my local arena and the tickets were free. If there is a chorus line in hell it surely looks and sounds something like that Bowie medley. And those feelings are very, very real to the people that have them.[/QUOTE]
BRILLIANT post.