Haha.. lol this!
And I thought Soccer fans were crazy!
Dane
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Toon_86
Fanthology - you gotta laugh. Hangman - shit song live, not interested in the acetate which no-one has ever proven exists anyway, but to be fair, probably does. Roger Taylor was in a crap band 50 years ago and some stuff was released by a guy who should now be hung drawn and quartered cos he didn't stay in the brotherhood. Really? Get over yourselves.
Other 'rare studio' work? Who cares, it'll all come out sometime anyway when the money starts to run out. Enjoy your days in the sun 'fanthology' you really have made yourseleves look like a bunch of gormless twats.
Other 'rare studio' work? Who cares, it'll all come out sometime anyway when the money starts to run out. Enjoy your days in the sun 'fanthology' you really have made yourseleves look like a bunch of gormless twats.
john bodega
It probably would've been smart to just upload everything before he had a chance to.
pittrek
[QUOTE] [b]Toon_86 wrote:[/b]
Fanthology - you gotta laugh. Hangman - shit song live, not interested in the acetate which no-one has ever proven exists anyway, but to be fair, probably does. Roger Taylor was in a crap band 50 years ago and some stuff was released by a guy who should now be hung drawn and quartered cos he didn't stay in the brotherhood. Really? Get over yourselves.
Other 'rare studio' work? Who cares, it'll all come out sometime anyway when the money starts to run out. Enjoy your days in the sun 'fanthology' you really have made yourseleves look like a bunch of gormless twats.[/QUOTE]
Gormless twats - sounds like a name of a punk band
Fanthology - you gotta laugh. Hangman - shit song live, not interested in the acetate which no-one has ever proven exists anyway, but to be fair, probably does. Roger Taylor was in a crap band 50 years ago and some stuff was released by a guy who should now be hung drawn and quartered cos he didn't stay in the brotherhood. Really? Get over yourselves.
Other 'rare studio' work? Who cares, it'll all come out sometime anyway when the money starts to run out. Enjoy your days in the sun 'fanthology' you really have made yourseleves look like a bunch of gormless twats.[/QUOTE]
Gormless twats - sounds like a name of a punk band
Michael Allred
This is some funny shit. "elite" collectors? Well poor poor them, some of their precious material was leaked sorry uploaded for others to enjoy and now they no longer have that to obsess over. Excuse me while I cry a solemn tear for their loss.
Back2TheLight
[QUOTE] [b]Michael Allred wrote:[/b]
This is some funny shit. "elite" collectors? Well poor poor them, some of their precious material was leaked sorry uploaded for others to enjoy and now they no longer have that to obsess over. Excuse me while I cry a solemn tear for their loss. [/QUOTE]
Bahahahahaha!! Couldn't agree more!! Wish I could hit the like button on some of these responses :)
This is some funny shit. "elite" collectors? Well poor poor them, some of their precious material was leaked sorry uploaded for others to enjoy and now they no longer have that to obsess over. Excuse me while I cry a solemn tear for their loss. [/QUOTE]
Bahahahahaha!! Couldn't agree more!! Wish I could hit the like button on some of these responses :)
4 x Vision
[QUOTE] [b]John S Stuart wrote:[/b]
Think about it; since you left Fanthology has updated a huge range of studio rarities - which will never be discussed in public.[QUOTE]
If this statement is true, then you lot are an absolute disgrace calling yourselves Queen fans?
You join in when everyone is having a pop at QPL for not releasing anthology based sets, but sit on rare material without even mentioning their existence. As mentioned by many others, enjoy trading amoung yourselves asnd keeping everything so secretive.... and a big thanks for the scraps you have deemed worthy of sharing to the little people.
You released the BBC masters for your own "fifteen minutes of fame".... which strangely enough was made redundant after Queen officially released some of them on the 2011 remasters bonus discs. Lucky you managed to get in their first out of the blue!!!
I'm pretty sickened that fellow Queen fans would sit on material like this, and not even make it public knowledge what's out there?
Your wee fanthology group is ridiculous in this day and age. You have no right having a go at Dave Fuller either, and under the guise of "he insulted you"! Yeah sure that's the reason you are so upset!!! I'm surprised you thought others would believe that too? Your trying to get sympathy and support for the 'abuse', when really you want to have a go at Dave F for breaking your secret society code. Be more honest and you might get some credibility back.
Think about it; since you left Fanthology has updated a huge range of studio rarities - which will never be discussed in public.[QUOTE]
If this statement is true, then you lot are an absolute disgrace calling yourselves Queen fans?
You join in when everyone is having a pop at QPL for not releasing anthology based sets, but sit on rare material without even mentioning their existence. As mentioned by many others, enjoy trading amoung yourselves asnd keeping everything so secretive.... and a big thanks for the scraps you have deemed worthy of sharing to the little people.
You released the BBC masters for your own "fifteen minutes of fame".... which strangely enough was made redundant after Queen officially released some of them on the 2011 remasters bonus discs. Lucky you managed to get in their first out of the blue!!!
I'm pretty sickened that fellow Queen fans would sit on material like this, and not even make it public knowledge what's out there?
Your wee fanthology group is ridiculous in this day and age. You have no right having a go at Dave Fuller either, and under the guise of "he insulted you"! Yeah sure that's the reason you are so upset!!! I'm surprised you thought others would believe that too? Your trying to get sympathy and support for the 'abuse', when really you want to have a go at Dave F for breaking your secret society code. Be more honest and you might get some credibility back.
4 x Vision
[QUOTE] [b]Zebonka12 wrote:[/b]
What I can't understand is why you aren't hitting this ridiculous mouth-breather where it hurts. There's more than enough official material on his channel to get him yanked. Start writing some emails for shit's sake. There comes a time when old noodle-dick won't be able to appeal his way out of trouble anymore.[/QUOTE]
So because some guy sent you a nasty email, nobody should get to listen to the material he shares?
Must be great being a saint? Bet you've never went to YT and watched or listened to something official!
Grass.
What I can't understand is why you aren't hitting this ridiculous mouth-breather where it hurts. There's more than enough official material on his channel to get him yanked. Start writing some emails for shit's sake. There comes a time when old noodle-dick won't be able to appeal his way out of trouble anymore.[/QUOTE]
So because some guy sent you a nasty email, nobody should get to listen to the material he shares?
Must be great being a saint? Bet you've never went to YT and watched or listened to something official!
Grass.
Senna
This is all a bit nerdy.
greaserkat
This is why I stick to collecting vinyl.
john bodega
"So because some guy sent you a nasty email", (followed by some other crap I didn't say).
This whole thing is a conversation on his character (or lack thereof). I really do think people should just leak stuff (and yes, for free!) before someone's collection goes up in smoke and we lose it all forever. That doesn't make it cool for him to obtain material from people and then share it when they asked him not to. I mean, that's the condition of him having owned it. Don't you have any kind of morals? Someone says 'please don't share this', it's decent to tell them 'well, if you give me this I'm going to share it' so that they have opportunity to say 'on second thought, I will not give you this thing'.
Don't get me wrong, I think these collectors are daft (especially the ones who forked out cash to buy stuff that shouldn't even be on sale) but that's not really the topic. The topic here started with Dave Fuller lying to people and being a general douche. I believe I was on topic.
To reiterate, I really think this shit should all be public domain because (as I've said a dozen fuckin' times) no one's collection is safe enough. A hundred copies of a song beats having one in a cupboard somewhere. But, I don't think screwing people is the answer.
This whole thing is a conversation on his character (or lack thereof). I really do think people should just leak stuff (and yes, for free!) before someone's collection goes up in smoke and we lose it all forever. That doesn't make it cool for him to obtain material from people and then share it when they asked him not to. I mean, that's the condition of him having owned it. Don't you have any kind of morals? Someone says 'please don't share this', it's decent to tell them 'well, if you give me this I'm going to share it' so that they have opportunity to say 'on second thought, I will not give you this thing'.
Don't get me wrong, I think these collectors are daft (especially the ones who forked out cash to buy stuff that shouldn't even be on sale) but that's not really the topic. The topic here started with Dave Fuller lying to people and being a general douche. I believe I was on topic.
To reiterate, I really think this shit should all be public domain because (as I've said a dozen fuckin' times) no one's collection is safe enough. A hundred copies of a song beats having one in a cupboard somewhere. But, I don't think screwing people is the answer.
Lord Fickle
But surely, if everything was in the public domain, it would be worthless as a collection? Isn't the whole idea of being a 'collector', to have something unique, that no one, or few other people have? If there were thousands of copies of the Mona Lisa, wouldn't it be rendered worthless?
If someone has sought out a rare item, and it has cost them time, effort, and perhaps, a lot of money, isn't it their right to decide whether to share it or not, and if so, who with? Some of the comments here seem to be suggesting that no one has the right to a private and personal collection, without sharing it freely with the rest of the community. Surely that's not entirely reasonable?
If someone has sought out a rare item, and it has cost them time, effort, and perhaps, a lot of money, isn't it their right to decide whether to share it or not, and if so, who with? Some of the comments here seem to be suggesting that no one has the right to a private and personal collection, without sharing it freely with the rest of the community. Surely that's not entirely reasonable?
john bodega
"But surely, if everything was in the public domain, it would be worthless as a collection?"
FINALLY, someone gets it. Yes. It should be worthless. If you want to make money, go and collect stamps, or baseball cards, or Lamborghini's, or some other fuckin' thing.
Hell - collect the physical tapes or discs that the music came on!
Collectors have got to understand that whatever one's moral position on collecting bootlegs, they will always and forever be coming up against the fact that there are people out there that just want to hear stuff.
When I speak of having it in the public domain as a means of preservation, what I'm getting at is that the music itself (even if it's as boring as the Reaction shit) stands a much better chance of being enjoyed (or at least acknowledged) in years to come if more people can get a crack at it.
FINALLY, someone gets it. Yes. It should be worthless. If you want to make money, go and collect stamps, or baseball cards, or Lamborghini's, or some other fuckin' thing.
Hell - collect the physical tapes or discs that the music came on!
Collectors have got to understand that whatever one's moral position on collecting bootlegs, they will always and forever be coming up against the fact that there are people out there that just want to hear stuff.
When I speak of having it in the public domain as a means of preservation, what I'm getting at is that the music itself (even if it's as boring as the Reaction shit) stands a much better chance of being enjoyed (or at least acknowledged) in years to come if more people can get a crack at it.
john bodega
"If there were thousands of copies of the Mona Lisa, wouldn't it be rendered worthless?"
Is it worthless because I can look up a lossy JPG image of it for free?
Is it worthless because I can look up a lossy JPG image of it for free?
john bodega
"isn't it their right to decide whether to share it or not, and if so, who with?"
I don't even know what the legalities are of owning something that you're not supposed to, when it comes to musical rarities. I know that there isn't really a moral highground on any side of the issue though.
I mean really, figure that one out. Some guy has an item that he came upon by dodgy means (if not him personally, then someone he got it from - if it was a bigscreen TV, you'd have cops at your front door). Not only do they not really own the physical item, they sure as hell don't hold copyright on the recording (that goes to whoever paid for the session) and they don't have copyright on whatever music is on there.
I'm not a collector, so I don't know what the mentality is that drives the idea that one person who doesn't have a right to own the thing, can somehow (because he bought it from another collector) be more entitled to it than other people who also do not technically have any legal right to it.
I must admit that inside, I do have a kind of grudging empathy for people who have paid money on an item and not really thought through the ramifications of it. That really does not change the situation any, though. One asks, 'but why should the collector share freely that which he paid for?'. Simple - because it's not really his. My sympathies. You're free to simply sit on the thing and pretend you don't have it, I guess.
*sigh* It's not a pleasant topic because there are many opinions of it, but I think they all sit downstream from the fact that people are exchanging goods of dubious origin.
One has to live by their principles I suppose. I filmed a Who gig a couple of years ago, I uploaded it for free on Youtube - no watermarks, no real editing (except for some banter that no one needs to hear) and basically as many of the songs as there was room for on my tape. Doing it that way was in line with my way of thinking. 'I have this somewhat rare thing, I'd like to share it'.
I don't even know what the legalities are of owning something that you're not supposed to, when it comes to musical rarities. I know that there isn't really a moral highground on any side of the issue though.
I mean really, figure that one out. Some guy has an item that he came upon by dodgy means (if not him personally, then someone he got it from - if it was a bigscreen TV, you'd have cops at your front door). Not only do they not really own the physical item, they sure as hell don't hold copyright on the recording (that goes to whoever paid for the session) and they don't have copyright on whatever music is on there.
I'm not a collector, so I don't know what the mentality is that drives the idea that one person who doesn't have a right to own the thing, can somehow (because he bought it from another collector) be more entitled to it than other people who also do not technically have any legal right to it.
I must admit that inside, I do have a kind of grudging empathy for people who have paid money on an item and not really thought through the ramifications of it. That really does not change the situation any, though. One asks, 'but why should the collector share freely that which he paid for?'. Simple - because it's not really his. My sympathies. You're free to simply sit on the thing and pretend you don't have it, I guess.
*sigh* It's not a pleasant topic because there are many opinions of it, but I think they all sit downstream from the fact that people are exchanging goods of dubious origin.
One has to live by their principles I suppose. I filmed a Who gig a couple of years ago, I uploaded it for free on Youtube - no watermarks, no real editing (except for some banter that no one needs to hear) and basically as many of the songs as there was room for on my tape. Doing it that way was in line with my way of thinking. 'I have this somewhat rare thing, I'd like to share it'.