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[b]medusa-rules [/b]said:

[i]has a tendency to slip in some sexual references in the lyrics if you listen carefully.

stiffness in my bones he delights in.
find me an asshole to love - very end- he slipped in.
my hardon pay - again slipped in.

Brian and Roger are unaware of this i think
also he used the f word in we will --- lyric, changing it.
i think Brian and Roger must know that.
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Medusa, do you hear [b][i]this[/i][/b]:...........................now listen carefully again,.................................That's the sound of one hand clapping. Very clever how you say one thing while it is evident that you mean something else. Yeah, Adam is trashing the Queen lyrics and Brian and Roger are two doddering old fools who still play well but haven't a clue what is going on around them. You are as full of shit as a Christmas goose, and as I've seen Freddie occasionally say to someone from the stage - [i]fuck you!
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Oh,and did I forget to include that homophobes are a dime a dozen?

[QUOTE] [b]cacatua wrote:[/b]
Oh,and did I forget to include that homophobes are a dime a dozen?[/QUOTE]

I am not afraid of men

Holly and Grateful, you may be Queen fans, but you also seem to be a couple of trolls who play tag-team forum-wrestling here. So forgive me if I see you both as a two-headed idiot-Medusa and get you mixed up.

So, Grateful: Do you you forget your own comments, even when they're quoted verbatim right back atyou, and then you re-re-quote them with what you think is a pithy caption?

The "only" comment you made about anybody's style came from...me?

Anyone who can read can look back on the other board and read what you, GratefulFan, wrote about how "gay gay gay" Adam Lambert is. It's pretty dumb, sure, but what's exciting for people who like to watch car crashes is how you twist it around to be something other than you not liking Adam Lambert, at least in part, because of this.

Here's the original "gay gay gay" comment--your words not mine--which was about his "image," which I guess is different than "style," if you enjoy dancing on the top of Grateful's pin he uses for his head:

"One frequent message of Lambert's image, performances and words is "Gay gay gay! I'm gay! Look at me! I'm gay! Has everybody noticed that I'm really hip and gay? No? Let me french my guitar player on national prime time TV so it's clear."

([url=http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1315067/radio-broadcast-queen-elton-john-adamlambert.aspx?page=3]http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1315067/radio-broadcast-queen-elton-john-adamlambert.aspx?page=31[/url])

To be fair, you do go on to say homophobia is a problem, blah blah blah, and I'm certainly not one myself, yadda yadda yadda, and I don't need to wear my progressiveness on my sleeve because I'm a great person, waah waah waah. But you don't grade art on a curve [stomp! stomp!]. No siree! 

Sidebar: you must be quite the student of Adam Lambert to know about his image, performances, and words.

Give it up. You don't like Adam Lambert, at least in part, because he's gay gay gay. Admit it, and leave it at that, and we can all move on being Queen fans here.

What a sad, bitter little man. I bet you love smelling your own farts.

I don't have to wear my progressiveness on my sleeve because I don't put it on like a flannel hairshirt every morning and I'm not a phony hysteric seeking attention for myself instead of an issue.  I also don't call it progressiveness because I'd feel like a bit of a tool, but that's just me.

You don't know what Holly did or didn't say, you know pitiably little relevant about Lambert,  you're STILL referring to me in the masculine (!) and you continue to posture, all because your singular contribution to this multi-thread exchange has been an out of control ego and smug obtuseness that doesn't actually require listening to anything or anyone.  The problem with wildly overestimating yourself is that you underestimate everybody else.  I'm pretty sure that most following this increasingly annoying and intrusive conversation can see exactly what is happening here, so I'll try to be brief as I can and then I'll be done.

I am a student of sorts of Lambert and his fan community. Being informed has always been this quirky prerequisite of mine for having an opinion.  You should give it a spin.  YOU decided that image meant "style". The typical use of 'image' applied to public figures is a much broader concept that may or may not count 'style' as a significant component. If Bill Cosby  declined a role in a remake of Debbie Does Dallas over fears about his image, nobody would assume he's afraid he's going to ruin his favorite wool pants.  Lambert's style is part of his image, and has an obnoxiousness of it's own, but an obnoxiousness vastly incidental to my actual point about the frequent obnoxiousness of his gay issue advocacy.

In an interview a couple of weeks ago he talked about getting criticism from some groups within the gay community that he was not representing them in a way that would advance acceptance. Are they homophobes too?  He perceived it to be an issue of him being too fierce and too challenging to  'safe' gay role models straight people could see themselves reflected in, but I've rarely if ever seen gay advocacy groups trying to narrow the path. The fact is for many he can have a tin ear for place and time and moderation and good taste that has to do entirely with him and nothing to do with the issues of equality and tolerance.  Perhaps a familiar parallel for Queen fans is Brian May on animal rights.  It's no reflection on the issue that he is so polarizing that he leaves half the observers annoyed and  fighting an urge to eat an entire cow for lunch just to spite him, completely independent of their views on animal ethics.

Requiring that I acquiesce to your deluded idea of what's in my own head so we can "move on" is gut splitting. You picked a loser of a fight with the wrong people and you've failed to make any substantive argument in a half dozen tries. Get your ego in check and give a thought to the other people on QZ who are put off and put out by your transparent thread to thread  baiting and the irrelevant-to-most back and forth sniping it breeds. Drop the self serving death grip on an argument you lost three days ago. In the end, I could not care any less about what you think of me and I could hardly now think any less of you. You're the worst kind of failed intellectual bully. Good riddance.

[QUOTE] [b]Zebonka12 wrote:[/b]
... the stupid costume choices that people like him and Lady Gaga are making. It's probably all me. But I think the outfit looks silly.

I will add that I just wish Brian had kept some of his wardrobe from the Kerry Ellis shows. He looked like a badass.[/QUOTE]

I've doubt that Adam picked the clothes. He said in an early on interview that he had no idea what he would be wearing, but added that he hoped it would be "fabulous."

I wonder If someone in the Queen organization is responsible for his wardrobe and also Jennifer's horrible pants and head turban.

From his videos, Adam's been seen in much more interesting performance threads than these.

The spiky shoulder leather at least is a recycle from Adam a couple of years ago.

http://blog.zap2it.com/pop2it/2010/03/adam-lamberts-complete-idol-package-padded-or-for-real.html

Nothing I've yet seen struck me as unusual for him...they all seem pretty typical and at least thematically familiar so far.

Grateful!

It is quite frightening how you locate these Items so quickly.

Don't get me wrong I like black clothing but it does get tiresome even with metal spikes. What's the point of being young like Adam, and not showing more skin?

Adam loves fashion and costumes. He quite frequently "recycles" clothing from an earlier time. You can be assured that most of his onstage clothing picks are his own. And one of the things we love about him is that he always surprises us withi his outrageous and, yes, sometimes ridiculous choices. He quite simply doesn't give a f*** what anyone says or thinks in this regard. As far as showing some skin, we Adam fans nearly went into convulsions when he wore shorts for the first time at a concert this summer. Believe it not, he is quite modest about showing skin onstage. When he had
bare arms and shorts on at the same time, we simultaneously spontaneously orgasmed.

Adam loves fashion and costumes. He quite frequently "recycles" clothing from an earlier time. You can be assured that most of his onstage clothing picks are his own. And one of the things we love about him is that he always surprises us withi his outrageous and, yes, sometimes ridiculous choices. He quite simply doesn't give a f*** what anyone says or thinks in this regard. As far as showing some skin, we Adam fans nearly went into convulsions when he wore shorts for the first time at a concert this summer. Believe it not, he is quite modest about showing skin onstage. When he had
bare arms and shorts on at the same time, we simultaneously spontaneously orgasmed.
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I'm sorry but that is the creepiest thing i have ever read, you talk like you are all one connected entity.

Your point is?

I see you took me quite literally. If I would have said it was raining cats and dogs, would you have declared cruelty to animals?

No, but there is a weirdness in the collective mindset that Glamberts have. People in QZ think that Hot Space sucked, or the Miracle was poorly produced or that Freddie was mailing his songwriting in around the AKOM period. It's accepted, or debated. For you, Adam Lambert can do no wrong. That's fucked up, because as an artist, and frontman, he is about 1/100th of the quality of Freddie Mercury, and here, Freddie's fuck ups are debated and celebrated.

I disagree that we think Adam can do no wrong. I wasn't crazy about his EMA nor his Kiev performances. His AMA debut in the US was horrific. Most fans agreed on that! But overall we are in love with the guy. And not just for his voice. He is an all around great guy from what I can see and he is soooo much fun to be a fan of because you never know what to expect.
Unfortunately, in this fandom Adam can do no right.