Seven Seas of Rhye songwriting

it just seemed a little weird to me that brian didnt bring this up till recently. I actually think he's generally very fair with regards to songwriting credits, but so was the rest of the band, and i wonder why brian's input was never mentioned by freddie when he talked about the song, as he also seemed pretty fair with regards to credit.

Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if brian did indeed write the bridge, however I couldn't honestly can't tell because it seemed like the chord progressions in the song were something any of the four could have come up. I'm far from a musical expert though, so wanted to see if anyone with more knowledge of music/brian or fred's trademarks could spot other details that support or deny brian's claim.

be fucking fantastic if a demo turns up one day with freddie playing the whole song on piano (inc bridge)

Brian would have reason to grow more bitter as time went on. The biggest money making hits it seems were written by Freddie and John.

Geez, brENsKi, you're even more bitter than usual.

[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]1sharppencil wrote:[/b]
"it's freddie's song....but you know what brian...you can claim the fucking bridge, the arsing intro, the cunting fade out, the titting chorus and both twatting verses if you like...but you're getting no song-writing royalties you money-grubber...so how's that grab you?"
<-----what he said![/QUOTE]
thanks..i felt that was amongst my finest work[/QUOTE]
You going to add that to your signature, which already contains a couple quotes from you?

think you're a bit muddled there....i have nothing to be "bitter" about...so i am not bitter
freddie's family and friends on the other hand may do
think about it....since Freddie's death, the song-count of "wholly written by Brian, or significant contribution by Brian...has steadily increased year on year...it's like he's saying "Freddie's dead...but i'm still alive...i'm still alive...i'm still alive...anyone? anyone? please"

odd that you jump on my comments, when other have said similar things...don't see you jumping down their throats

as regards the "finest work" line...that was a joke

although my comments do appear acerbic at times, they're far from bitter....just direct....i've lost enough personally in the last four years to be really bitter...but you don't...you carry on...it's the only way

[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]1sharppencil wrote:[/b]
"it's freddie's song....but you know what brian...you can claim the fucking bridge, the arsing intro, the cunting fade out, the titting chorus and both twatting verses if you like...but you're getting no song-writing royalties you money-grubber...so how's that grab you?"
<-----what he said![/QUOTE]

thanks..i felt that was amongst my finest work[/QUOTE]


Excuse me, I think you'll find I wrote that. Oh, sorry, I've 'gone all Brian'!!

hehe

Brian's doing a Mccartney
but in years to come it'll be called a "come what May"

LOL@cmsdrums and brENsKi

Where is Roger in all of this? Has he ever said anything to support or contradict these "extra" songwriting credits?

Brian seems to be a bit Dr. Evilish from all the comments I'm seeing. I remember a post that said WWRY and some of the questionable Queen collaborations were Brian's ideas that he got Roger involved in when before Roger seemed happy to do solo stuff and play small clubs?

Roger keeps his mouth shut...he's no fool

let's face it...he's got plenty of residual royalities and he's not greedy

brENsKi,

"Bitter" is defined, in the context I was using it in, as "characterized by intense antagonism and hostility." You were indeed being rather hostile toward Brian in your comment; perhaps he deserved some of it, but it sounded to me in that comment that you've really come to detest the guy. I even agree that some of the moves Brian has made recently in regards to Queen's old catalogue seems a bit shifty. I wasn't trying to attack you with my comment, I was just making a general remark.

You say that others had said similar things as you, but really that's not true. Looking down the comments, the only person who actually attacked Brian himself directly is notimeforlosers, but his comment was brief and he didn't go on and on about how "shoddy, shameful, and downright c*ntish" Brian is. I'm not trying to jump down your throat; again, I was only making a general remark.

As for the "finest work" line, I'm aware that was a joke, I was just playing along.

Maybe we're looking at the word "bitter" different ways, but to me your comments come across as bitter, and to be honest, I'm not exactly sure how you get off calling Brian "bitter." The problem with writing on the Internet is that it's difficult to tell what kind of tone a person is trying to use when saying something. I guess we both just misunderstood each other.

@Dane: I've experienced the same in a band I was in: someone had the first layout, maybe lyrics, and the basic chord structure, and everyone else added ideas. Not only concerning arrangements or parts of different instruments, also additional lyrics and bridges and stuff.
But the one who started the song got the credit. Everyone was absolutely fine with that, and I still think it's not only okay, but the right way. Otherwise you'd be a solo artist with hired musicians to play along to your sheets.

In general I think it's all okay. What happened with SSOR is the normal way it happens in bands (afaik), so no prob to talk about his contributions. And McCartney did the same, as did Freddie himself: he told the world in several interviews that he took over RGG and AKOM, which is perfectly right.

And Brian always credits BoRhap completely and 100% to Freddie, even the headbanging-riff (which of course is Freddie's, but the casual fan/listener does not expect this), without being asked. And (apart from songwriting) he gives him the credit for what has been voted the best ever, ever performance in the history of rock music, Live Aid.

I remember an interview where Bri talks about Freddie and says something like this: "He extends his range with every album we make. He's great. I love the guy; he's incredibly inspiring." Nuff said!

[QUOTE] [b]waunakonor wrote:[/b]
brENsKi,
"Bitter" is defined, in the context I was using it in, as "characterized by intense antagonism and hostility." .[/QUOTE]
i don't hate brian. i don't know him. all i know is what he does...and until 1991 he did alright by me (she makes me and dear friends aside)...then post 91, freddie died and brian's quality control died with him, and at the same time it was replaced by a "McCartney syndrome"...a need to rewrite history to show equal importance.
fact is, before 91, brian was probably musically freddie's equal in most respects - but post 91 his constant need to big up himself has dimished what respect i had for him
he's behaving like a resentful bitter old man...and it's a pity, because if he hung up the bile, he'd probably still have loads worthwhile to say...musically

[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]1sharppencil wrote:[/b]
"it's freddie's song....but you know what brian...you can claim the fucking bridge, the arsing intro, the cunting fade out, the titting chorus and both twatting verses if you like...but you're getting no song-writing royalties you money-grubber...so how's that grab you?"
<-----what he said![/QUOTE]
thanks..i felt that was amongst my finest work[/QUOTE]

Yes but since 1sharppencil added a bit, does that mean its now a co-credit? lol :)

maybe brian did write it leave the man alone. but one thing is for sure, freddie built the red special.