Peter's *the* best source for things such as Freddie's favourite wine and favourite gay bar, but in terms of his music, he wasn't *that* interested and, as such, he's often not entirely accurate. He was a friend of Freddie's, not a die-hard fan/collector of Freddie's music.
That slippery famous UK collector provided the BBC sessions for upload and illegal broadcast (sharing), but bravely left the sharing to someone else.
JSS is hypocritically talking out of multiple orifaces and claims to be "innocent" while invoking the "honor of thieves" code because Fuller leaked something.
It is the same old story from 10 years ago ... a leak occurs and the collectors blacklist and harass the leaker.
Is it any wonder that Fuller is still rubbing Fanthology's nose in "it" with absurd copywrite statements and conducting cash sales?
That slippery famous UK collector provided the BBC sessions for upload and illegal broadcast (sharing), but bravely left the sharing to someone else.
JSS is hypocritically talking out of multiple orifaces and claims to be "innocent" while invoking the "honor of thieves" code because Fuller leaked something.
It is the same old story from 10 years ago ... a leak occurs and the collectors blacklist and harass the leaker.
Is it any wonder that Fuller is still rubbing Fanthology's nose in "it" with absurd copywrite statements and conducting cash sales?
[b][i]You Sir;[/i] [/b]have no idea what you write; because your view is from from a position of rumour and ignorance, or what you have read on the internet. You have no idea whatsoever of my legal position or status and seem to be happy to shoot all birds during hunting season rather than stick to the ducks your license permits.
Let's consult my oriface...
FACT: Fuller has a Youtube channel; [b][i]under his control[/i][/b] FACT: Fuller's Youtube Channel blatantly flaunts RIAA copyright guidelines. FACT: This is clearly illegal for him to do so. (Even a blind man in a dark room can see this!) FACT: This has now come to the attention of the RIAA FACT: "A big boy did it and ran away" is not a legal excuse. FACT: Therefore he must face this "trial" alone.
Further FACT: No one in this room gives a damn about Fuller or his welfare, so why pretend otherwise?
Perhaps you missread. I requote:
"This thread is about owning the LEGAL rights to freely distribute material that belongs to others - and to do so otherwise... is [b]ILLEGAL[/b] [b]and indefensable.[/b] End of argument, full stop.
[/QUOTE]
inu-liger · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]John S Stuart wrote:[/b]This thread is about owning the LEGAL rights to freely distribute material that belongs to others - and to do so otherwise... is [b]ILLEGAL[/b] [b]and indefensable.[/b]
End of argument, full stop.[/QUOTE]
Best not to pursue further arguments with these juvenile, Urkel-comparing deviants who clearly haven't progressed beyond elementary levels of bullyish mentality. Same heartless individuals that don't give a shit about people afflicted with various mental health issues of serious proportion, typical.
mooghead · Member since
"and the possibilities for remixes are literally endless"
No one cares about 'fans' thinking they are better producers and visionaries than the original band/composer/producer.
I just want to hear the parts in isolation.
The next multitrack release/leak (albeit 'stems' over a few tracks ripped from a computer game) is worth a thousand times more than what DRF has to offer.
In fact, these are bad times to be a serious Queen collector. Obviously I say that without actually knowing what some lucky people on this planet have their hands on, but nothing I know about (which is very little) excites me at all....
TomP63 · Member since
A bit off topic I guess, but regarding the Beeb tracks. If JSS put them online for downloading, or someone else did, either way, in 2010 I was ever so grateful to have that oppertunity to lay my hands on the complete session. 'till this day I listen with such great enjoyment to these recordings. So I think it so unneccessary to stab a knife in someone's back for giving us fans/collectors/moaners the chance to get something real rare. That's the point I've tried to make earlier, in this case it should have been Queen or whoever is responsible for releasing stuff, they have the power to release material. Maybe that will make an end to this discussion we have over the past days and hopefully make guys like David Fuller disappear into oblivion.....
Tom
PS: I do listen every day to the Beeb tracks, so whoever was responsible for releasing this great stuff, I salute you!
That slippery famous UK collector provided the BBC sessions for upload and illegal broadcast (sharing), but bravely left the sharing to someone else.
JSS is hypocritically talking out of multiple orifaces and claims to be "innocent" while invoking the "honor of thieves" code because Fuller leaked something.
It is the same old story from 10 years ago ... a leak occurs and the collectors blacklist and harass the leaker.
Is it any wonder that Fuller is still rubbing Fanthology's nose in "it" with absurd copywrite statements and conducting cash sales?
[b][i]You Sir;[/i] [/b]have no idea what you write; because your view is from from a position of rumour and ignorance, or what you have read on the internet. You have no idea whatsoever of my legal position or status and seem to be happy to shoot all birds during hunting season rather than stick to the ducks your license permits.
Let's consult my oriface...
FACT: Fuller has a Youtube channel; [b][i]under his control[/i][/b] FACT: Fuller's Youtube Channel blatantly flaunts RIAA copyright guidelines. FACT: This is clearly illegal for him to do so. (Even a blind man in a dark room can see this!) FACT: This has now come to the attention of the RIAA FACT: "A big boy did it and ran away" is not a legal excuse. FACT: Therefore he must face this "trial" alone.
Further FACT: No one in this room gives a damn about Fuller or his welfare, so why pretend otherwise?
Perhaps you missread. I requote:
"This thread is about owning the LEGAL rights to freely distribute material that belongs to others - and to do so otherwise... is [b]ILLEGAL[/b] [b]and indefensable.[/b] End of argument, full stop.
The blacklisting and harrassment of leakers is IMMORAL and Indefensable. End of argument, full stop. [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE]
John S Stuart · Member since
[QUOTE]
[b]Panchgani wrote: [/b]The blacklisting and harrassment of leakers is IMMORAL and Indefensable. End of argument, full stop.
[b]No Siree Bob[/b]: The final judgement in this case is neither yours, mine, Fuller's or anyone else's to call. That will be up to the RIAA.
[b]When[/b] Fuller is [i]eventually[/i] prosecuted by the RIAA for breach of copyright it will [b]not[/b] be because of the supposed "blacklisting or harrassment of others" - [b][i]but because of his own stupid fault[/i] [i]for uploading then advertising with a huge red neon sign[/i][/b] - that he did [i]all of his own free will and accord.[/i] [i]He will therefore ultimately face the consequences for his own actions.[/i]
You may not like that fact. You may not like me. You may not like other serious collectors. That is totally irrelevent and immaterial to this debate
If you cannot comprehend the singular simple fact below; I feel very sorry for you.
Returning to point: "This thread is about owning the [b]LEGAL[/b] rights to freely distribute material that belongs to others - [b]and to do so otherwise... is ILLEGAL and indefensable.[/b]
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Saint Jiub · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]inu-liger wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]John S Stuart wrote:[/b]This thread is about owning the LEGAL rights to freely distribute material that belongs to others - and to do so otherwise... is [b]ILLEGAL[/b] [b]and indefensable.[/b]
End of argument, full stop.[/QUOTE]
Best not to pursue further arguments with these juvenile, Urkel-comparing deviants who clearly haven't progressed beyond elementary levels of bullyish mentality. Same heartless individuals that don't give a shit about people afflicted with various mental health issues of serious proportion, typical.[/QUOTE]
Despite being bipolar, I did not attempt to bully GF with a veiled suicide threat.
Saint Jiub · Member since
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Saint Jiub · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]John S Stuart wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]Panchgani wrote: [/b]The blacklisting and harrassment of leakers is IMMORAL and Indefensable.
End of argument, full stop.
[b]No Siree Bob[/b]: The final judgement in this case is neither yours, mine, Fuller's or anyone else's to call.
That will be up to the RIAA.
[b]When[/b] Fuller is [i]eventually[/i] prosecuted by the RIAA for breach of copyright it will [b]not[/b] be because of the supposed "blacklisting or harrassment of others" - [b][i]but because of his own stupid fault[/i] [i]for uploading then advertising with a huge red neon sign[/i][/b] - that he did [i]all of his own free will and accord.[/i] [i]He will therefore ultimately face the consequences for his own actions.[/i]
You may not like that fact.
You may not like me.
You may not like other serious collectors.
That is totally irrelevent and immaterial to this debate
If you cannot comprehend the singular simple fact below; I feel very sorry for you.
Returning to point: "This thread is about owning the [b]LEGAL[/b] rights to freely distribute material that belongs to others - [b]and to do so otherwise... is ILLEGAL and indefensable.[/b]
[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
Send Lawyers Guns and Money ...
This topic would not exist if not for a vendetta against David Fuller because he broke a so-called "gentleman's" agreement.
American lawyers, lobbyists, plus the RIAA do not add up to justice. The RIAA is a bigger farce than the NRA.
Anyway, I guess I should stop "contributing" to this topic as the "case is closed - full stop" ...
inu-liger · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]inu-liger wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]John S Stuart wrote:[/b]This thread is about owning the LEGAL rights to freely distribute material that belongs to others - and to do so otherwise... is [b]ILLEGAL[/b] [b]and indefensable.[/b]
End of argument, full stop.[/QUOTE]
Best not to pursue further arguments with these juvenile, Urkel-comparing deviants who clearly haven't progressed beyond elementary levels of bullyish mentality. Same heartless individuals that don't give a shit about people afflicted with various mental health issues of serious proportion, typical.[/QUOTE]
Despite being bipolar, I did not attempt to bully GF with a veiled suicide threat.
[/QUOTE]
Fairly big difference between bipolar disorder and depression, you utter fool.
And I was not bullying GF with a "veiled suicide threat." If you had a fucking clue how depression works (sadly many people with no experience dealing with depression don't), you'd sooner realize that I'm speaking an inconvenient truth rather than using it as a tool to bully someone; after all, any sensible normal person would feel guilty if they knew they were contributing to anybody's suicidal tendencies, considering certain stigmas attached to that.
I was extremely hesitant to even bring that up here for the longest time nevermind elsewhere, and I think I was right to have my doubts about posting it here. The disgraceful way you both keep attacking me even after the fact is disgusting.
Unfortunately, venomous people like you and GF seem to only care more about acquiring ammunition to attack people here for your own shameful purposes rather than taking into realistic account that there ARE human beings behind all these usernames in real life, and that words DO in fact hurt.
The fact that you two seem to maintain such "anonymous" personalities online as opposed to
my far more open profile is rather telling enough.
It's assholes like yourselves that really make it difficult for people to openly express themselves here. If I didn't bear an ongoing loyalty to the band I love whose music is one of the few things that truly keeps me motivated day to day, I would have fucked off elsewhere LONG ago as others have already done.
This board is such an absolute blackhole devoid of sensibility.
inu-liger · Member since
Anyways, get back on topic and keep them attacks on the collectors coming, since that's all you seem to be capable of doing here.
tero! 48531 · Member since
So... Did anybody write Brian's soapbox and ask what the artist(s) think about the morality of trading their unreleased work?
AdamMethos · Member since
There are a lot of copyright infringing videos on YouTube but to date, no individual YouTube user has ever been sued by a big media company for copyright infringement. Some media companies have instead gone after YouTube itself for facilitating copyright infringement which resulted in YouTube developing its Content ID system to identify infringing videos and let content owners decide how to manage them. This site has lots of info on how YouTube handles copyright disputes:
http://fairusetube.org/guide-to-youtube-removals
It's not out of the realm of possibility that the RIAA could sue Dave Fuller for $$$$$ for copyright infringement, but I think it's unlikely -- especially because in 2008 the RIAA announced that it would stop suing individuals for file sharing!!! I remember reading that Fuller's YouTube channel has been deactivated in the past but it was later reactivated again so if anything, I think his channel might just get deactivated permanently (by QPL not the RIAA).
If QPL wants to prevent him selling unreleased music, they'll send him one or more cease and desist letters on lawyer letterhead and will only sue him if he ignores the warnings and continues to sell the music. Taking Fuller to court would be expensive and money-losing for QPL unless (1) Fuller is rich and QPL can make a lot of money from suing him, or (2) QPL really really wants to make an example of him to scare Queen fans, so I think QPL would only sue as a last resort.
