Any recent pics and news of Mary Austin's grown sons?

So are you going to respond to what I'm angry about or are you going to keep making random derogatory comments about Americans, almost all of which don't apply to me. I own a passport and I'm not responsible at all for the terrible things done to the natives. There IS a such thing as UK English and American English. They're not completely different languages, but they're different dialects. We just say some things differently.

The reason I put the word "prying" in quotes a couple times was because I was directly quoting you, and that's what quotation marks are for. You seemed to think funkyrake was prying information about Mary Austin. He wasn't prying anything, however, just answering a simple question. He did nothing to deserve the reaction he received.

Mooghead is sometimes helpful and informative, but lately his comments have been utterly immature, giving me shit for my polls and writing "faggots" on a thread and nothing else. That strikes me as kind of immature.

[QUOTE] [b]Gregsynth wrote:[/b]
This thread is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't worry about it if I were you. It's just me and my friend here being stupid.

Yeah Greg and I've heard your podcasts, laughing about the Works tour, which I went to 4 of the shows in a week. You was a baby then, wasn't you? English is English, end of, dialects don't come into it. It's the spelling and pronunciation that annoys me.

Sorry for calling you Wanker, If you want to ask me something, I will reply, honestly. Cos I don't know what you are on about?

Greg hasn't been to any Queen concerts, but in the eight years he's been a fan he's acquired a ridiculous amount of knowledge on Queen's live career. He knows virtually everything except what it was like to actually be there. I'm sure he wishes he could travel back in time and attend a concert, as do I, but sadly we can't. Still, he knows enough to discuss the shows and laugh about him.

Anyway, since it looks like you finally want to have a real discussion so that we can settle this, I'm going to pretend none of that mindless bickering from the last couple hours or so never happened. What I saw happen here was a well-meaning QZ user ask a simple question in order to spark some discussion. Now, even if his question had been utterly stupid, I still don't think he deserved the reaction he got. Some people seemed to have gotten the impression that he was stalking Mary. He wasn't; he was just asking a question. For his question, he got completely laughed off the board. He seemed really flustered and angry right before he quit, and that made me sad for him, yet the shitstorm didn't let up.

To answer you, I guess I really don't know what I want from this. I just wish funkyrake could feel like be could come back and not be afraid of facing another mob, because he semed to be a friendly and interesting contributor, and this board needs as many of those as possible in order to stay somewhat interesting.

Do you at least understand what I'm going on about? I guess I just think about things too much and I don't like the idea of seeing another human being as something with no value in the world, no matter how stupid or hateful.

[QUOTE] [b] wrote:[/b]

Remarks on this post are over the top immature and rude. [/QUOTE]

They are idiots ignore them
As to your question no one knows and no one will
For the reason these idiots are using against you
They ,Mary's sons, are not celebrities.

Too little too late, unfortunately

waunakonor you banged on about me answering your issues, when I asked for them, you said you had forgotten them?

Then you say, 'Too little, too late', You're not wrong there. As for the Queen tours, the Works tour was the best I went to, those that also saw them on that tour agree with me too. I went on the Hot Space tour and the Magic tour. The Works was the best, visually and sound wise. So for Greg to laugh at this tour, means I have no respect for him, either.

For all the dreadful bootlegs you have of the tours, you can't see when Freddie was actually interacting with the crowd, thus not hitting G 6's or whatever the fuck that clown goes on about.

[QUOTE] [b]horse feathers wrote:[/b]

Yeah Greg and I've heard your podcasts, laughing about the Works tour, which I went to 4 of the shows in a week. You was a baby then, wasn't you?[/QUOTE]

I don't have a podcast, but I've been on Queen-related Skype calls discussing the Works Tour. I don't know who was laughing, but there's at least 5-7 people on the Works Tour debate on Youtube. If I was laughing, I was probably talking about the weaker gigs on the tour (Wembley Arena, Dortmund, Munich, Paris, Vienna, 2nd Brussels, etc) and comparing them to much better gigs on other tours.

I was only negative 7 during the Works tour era, so I wasn't exactly there!

Greg, I have heard you talking to Phoebe about the works tour, or Queenworks' as the tour was officially called. You kept asking him about Freddie's bad nights, laughing about them and pushing him.

They announced 4 nights in England for that tour, I got tickets for all of them. Then they added two more dates, I couldn't get tickets for those. So I went to Birmingham on the Friday and laughed at the stage, before the lights came on and told my mates it wasn't a patch on the Elland road stage in 82. I felt such a fool when they came on. The stage was incredible, the videos do not do justice to that stage set, it was awesome. Freddie was on form on Friday and Saturday. Then I went to two shows at Wembley Arena, not sure of the days, but they were the origional ones they had planned. I didn't go to the birthday one, but I was there when Rick Parfitt joined them on stage. Freddies voice had got worse for these shows, but Wembley Arena is actually the coldest place on earth, anyone who has been there for a concert will tell you this. So Birmingham was better. But Wembley, I went with my cousin, who had never seen them before, he still says that's the best gig he has ever been too and he went on the Magic tour too, which was awful. So how dare you criticise the Wembley Arena shows?

...I wasn't talking about Greg for most of my last post. I was talking about funkyrake and how he got ridiculed. Re-read my post.

The "too little too late," was directed at Queen Fan, who was telling funkyrake to ignore people even though he had already closed his account.

[QUOTE] [b]horse feathers wrote:[/b]
As for the Queen tours, the Works tour was the best I went to, those that also saw them on that tour agree with me too.[/QUOTE]

Everybody has their favorite tour. Mine's the Crazy Tour.

[QUOTE]I went on the Hot Space tour and the Magic tour. The Works was the best, visually and sound wise. So for Greg to laugh at this tour, means I have no respect for him, either.[/QUOTE]

The Works does arguably have the best visual/lightning rig. That I can completely agree with. However, have you heard any of the shows from the tour? There's some REALLY weak shows (and unfortunately they have great audio).

[QUOTE]For all the dreadful bootlegs you have of the tours, you can't see when Freddie was actually interacting with the crowd, thus not hitting G 6's or whatever the fuck that clown goes on about[/QUOTE]

I've got plenty of decent/great-sounding audio from the tour (courtesy of this site), and can paint a picture of the shows very well. Listening to a show to judge it is far more accurate than being there (you're all caught in the atmosphere). I saw Rush back in 2008 (Snakes And Arrows Tour), and it was fantastic--and I thought Geddy sounded amazing (although I wasn't paying attention to the vocals). When I checked the bootleg recording a day later, I heard Geddy struggle throughout and miss notes left and right (I didn't notice that at the actual show). I didn't really care though, I had fun and that's what counts.

Have I heard any shows from the tour..... well I went to four of them, you do the math, Greg. Bootlegs are awful, and I've heard a lot, got many on vinyl too, from the 70's. As they don't replicate my two ears, I treat them with the contempt they deserve. Cassette recorders, like they used in those days to bootleg, couldn't even record of the radio properly.

[QUOTE] [b]horse feathers wrote:[/b]

Greg, I have heard you talking to Phoebe about the works tour, or Queenworks' as the tour was officially called. You kept asking him about Freddie's bad nights, laughing about them and pushing him.[/QUOTE]

That was an impromptu late-night Skype session. Peter absolutely loved it and we've made contact at the Breakthru convention and we talked about Queen's live career as a whole. That was the first time I've ever talked to the man (the Skype thing), so there was a bit of that nervous/anxious energy. He did help me with the Sun City mystery (about the shows and Freddie losing his voice during that timeframe). Nowadays, I can paint a picture of exactly what happened with Freddie's voice during the tour (back then I was trying to get all the info I could and piece them together).

[QUOTE]They announced 4 nights in England for that tour, I got tickets for all of them. Then they added two more dates, I couldn't get tickets for those. So I went to Birmingham on the Friday and laughed at the stage, before the lights came on and told my mates it wasn't a patch on the Elland road stage in 82. I felt such a fool when they came on. The stage was incredible, the videos do not do justice to that stage set, it was awesome. Freddie was on form on Friday and Saturday.[/QUOTE]

The 1st Birmingham show is a great show overall. That's one of my favorite shows from the tour. I can only see the video and pictures of the lights and stage, but I'm with you on the "incredible" part. The atmosphere must have been awesome.

[QUOTE]Then I went to two shows at Wembley Arena, not sure of the days, but they were the origional ones they had planned. I didn't go to the birthday one, but I was there when Rick Parfitt joined them on stage. Freddies voice had got worse for these shows, but Wembley Arena is actually the coldest place on earth, anyone who has been there for a concert will tell you this. So Birmingham was better.[/QUOTE]

The original dates were the 4th and 5th of September. The 7th and the 8th were added on (ticket demand). You caught them on the first Wembley show and the 7th (Rick Parfitt joined Queen on that night). Freddie and Brian mentioned the freezing temperature on the Wembley 1980 show. The Birmingham shows were much better overall (although the last Birmingham show is just about as weak as the Wembley shows).

[QUOTE]But Wembley, I went with my cousin, who had never seen them before, he still says that's the best gig he has ever been too and he went on the Magic tour too, which was awful.[/QUOTE]

Which Magic Tour gig did he attend? There are some weaker shows on the Magic Tour compared with others, but there's not a gig to me that screams "awful" (even at Zurich where Freddie's voice is worn out-- the show still sounds pretty good).

[QUOTE]So how dare you criticise the Wembley Arena shows?[/QUOTE]

I can criticise the shows all I want (especially when there's legit reasons to do so). Sorry if you're so offended at that, but that's what happens during a live tour. You'll get some great shows, and you'll get some shows that don't sound too hot overall.

If you want an excellent show from the Works Tour, look at Stuttgart 1984 or that Tokyo 1985 gig (5/9/1985). Those are examples of all-around fantastic shows for the tour: Freddie sounds good, the band is tight, the quality is great (so everybody can hear everything), and the harmonies are good.

[QUOTE] [b]horse feathers wrote:[/b]

Have I heard any shows from the tour..... well I went to four of them, you do the math, Greg. Bootlegs are awful, and I've heard a lot, got many on vinyl too, from the 70's. As they don't replicate my two ears, I treat them with the contempt they deserve. Cassette recorders, like they used in those days to bootleg, couldn't even record of the radio properly.[/QUOTE]

I know you went to four shows, but have you downloaded a show from this site, and listened to the audio? It's so much different hearing the show rather than being there or talking about it.

There's some REALLY good audio from the tour (including a soundboard), not all the recordings are in bad quality.

I highly recommend Stuttgart 1984 -- great show and great quality!

The Magic tour show we went to was Manchester. It truly was awful. I went to Elland Road as a 17 year old kid, on my own in 82. I have posted a review about that gig on here, you will find it I'm sure Greg.

The first Birmingham gig was the best, without doubt. Freddie even handed out his microphone at one point, that's what all the screaming and shouting was on the bootlegg, they wouldn't give it him back too. I went on the saturday and cos they was doing Staying Power, I decided to go to the toilet, I swear that Freddie gave me a grimace as I walked down the row of seat to the toilets, haha.

Wambley arena, boiling hot outside, absolutely freezing, inside. It's because it's really an Ice rink.

At Elland Road, they came on when it got dark and I mean dark, not like the daylight at Milton Keynes, they got fined £5,000 per minute for that I believe. Also they hired houses and moved the residents out. They monitored the sound and said it was like Concorde flying 10 feet above you're head. I was about ten yards from the front of the stage, slightly to the left of centre. I was still deaf on the Sunday, the noise was that loud. Yet Freddies voice cut right through the noise, I can't explain it, but it just did. Listening to Live at the Bowl, with the treble turned right up, gives you that sound, yet the bass and kick drum, made you bounce. No HiFi can replicate that. So the Magic tour, they had to be off stage early, there was also noise issues they had to stick too. So you couldn't hear them and it was light for most of the concert. To me, the band were going through the motions, the highlight was me hearing ITLOTG live, which at the start, I hadn't a clue which song it was. Read my review of Elland Road, Greg, cos it really changed my life. Can you believe I couldn't get anyone to go with me? Cos as a band they were laughed at by people my age. BTW I'm from Manchester, so the Magic tour gig perhaps dissapointed me more for that reason?

[QUOTE] [b]horse feathers wrote:[/b]

The Magic tour show we went to was Manchester. It truly was awful. I went to Elland Road as a 17 year old kid, on my own in 82. I have posted a review about that gig on here, you will find it I'm sure Greg.

The first Birmingham gig was the best, without doubt. Freddie even handed out his microphone at one point, that's what all the screaming and shouting was on the bootlegg, they wouldn't give it him back too. I went on the saturday and cos they was doing Staying Power, I decided to go to the toilet, I swear that Freddie gave me a grimace as I walked down the row of seat to the toilets, haha.

Wambley arena, boiling hot outside, absolutely freezing, inside. It's because it's really an Ice rink.

At Elland Road, they came on when it got dark and I mean dark, not like the daylight at Milton Keynes, they got fined £5,000 per minute for that I believe. Also they hired houses and moved the residents out. They monitored the sound and said it was like Concorde flying 10 feet above you're head. I was about ten yards from the front of the stage, slightly to the left of centre. I was still deaf on the Sunday, the noise was that loud. Yet Freddies voice cut right through the noise, I can't explain it, but it just did. Listening to Live at the Bowl, with the treble turned right up, gives you that sound, yet the bass and kick drum, made you bounce. No HiFi can replicate that. So the Magic tour, they had to be off stage early, there was also noise issues they had to stick too. So you couldn't hear them and it was light for most of the concert. To me, the band were going through the motions, the highlight was me hearing ITLOTG live, which at the start, I hadn't a clue which song it was. Read my review of Elland Road, Greg, cos it really changed my life. Can you believe I couldn't get anyone to go with me? Cos as a band they were laughed at by people my age. BTW I'm from Manchester, so the Magic tour gig perhaps dissapointed me more for that reason?[/QUOTE]

I saw that Leeds 1982 review. Great read.

Sorry that you didn't enjoy the Manchester show. It's kinda a shame that the "hometown" gig disappointed you. There are better shows on the tour (like the early gigs), so if wanna listen to a show from the Magic Tour--I highly recommend Leiden or Stockholm!