The truth Queen/"Fanthology"/etc don't want you to know about Queen II

you really can't help yourself...even when i try to get things back "on topic" you have to
derail it...you're an argumentative creature - just for the sake of it...if you really have no interest in the topic at all
then why don't you fuck off out of it and leave well alone? unless it's because what i said about you being a
self-appointed cyber patrol and moral guardian of the "GratefulHolly Code"
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....so in a desperate attempt to
lurch this back in the subject direction i will repost the above

one thing i find curious....if there was so much stuff recorded for II and The Game - why such a dirth of
"extras" on the 2011 "non-deluxe editions"

one thing i find curious....if there was so much stuff recorded for II and The Game - why such a dirth of
"extras" on the 2011 "non-deluxe editions"

Well Brenski, that my very same thought, but The Game is in some point interessting, due the fact that we have It's a beautiful day and Sail away sweet sister. The thing which bother me the most about the extra tracks on The Game is, why was SASS only a halve backes demo and not the fully flegged song, I do feel that A Human Body is in it's right place, the live tracks are totally out of place. I know that we both are 50 (correct me if I'm wrong here), but I always thought that Queen fans/collectors of our age always knew that there were at least over 20 tracks laid down for The Game, I can remember plenty interviews were this was revealed. Now we still are on the rumour path, I heard in 1982 that Hot Space was merely a statement album, in that sence that Queen had made a different album, a more harder, or more rock album than Hot Space. But that EMI wasn't satisfied with the result, as being too much rock and that Queen made Hot Space as it is as we know it. I've heard so many times that Queen have their own black album in the vaults, just as Prince have. I thought that Put Out The Fire could be "the prove" that Queen hade made a (hard)rock album, or at least an album wich is more heavier in sound than Hot Space really is.....

Tom

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[b]brENsKi wrote: [/b] you really can't help yourself...even when i try to get things back "on topic" you have to
derail it...you're an argumentative creature - just for the sake of it...if you really have no interest in the topic at all
then why don't you fuck off out of it and leave well alone? unless it's because what i said about you being a
self-appointed cyber patrol and moral guardian of the "GratefulHolly Code"
==============================
....so in a desperate attempt to
lurch this back in the subject direction i will repost the above

one thing i find curious....if there was so much stuff recorded for II and The Game - why such a dirth of
"extras" on the 2011 "non-deluxe editions"[/QUOTE]

Err... no, what you actually want to do is hurl idiotic insults diarrhea fashion with no comeback. If you want the discussion "back on track" then get on with it without the insults and bullshit.

I am not writing this in a "make love not war" mode, it´s not my intention, but ... Wow ..... this has become an open war that has spread also in other threads. Really sad reading you guys calling names to each other ... when in fact we all arrived one day here thanks to our common love for Queen.

this is ruining the most interesting discussion appearing here in ages.

From being really excited / interested about this possible info regarding Queen II, The Game, The MIracle and so on ... to become really sad and just wanting to run away from here !

Exactly. Take the dick-measuring contest elsewhere and let this interesting thread from Roger's Unkempt Buttocks go on.

R.U.B., were any other tracks written and recorded for the Hotel New Hampshire? And how about those AKOM sessions!

Lord Gaga, Roger did wrote Heaven for Everyone during the Magic session, which at some point was left out for the album. Roger re-recorded his version, twice to be precise for the Shove It! album.

To my knowlegde, only Keep passing the open windows was written to be appear in the aforementioned movie, but was later on rejected, if I'm not misstaken the lyric keep passing the open windows comes directly from the movie. Hopes this helped you a bit.....

Tom

IMO it's the difference between collectors and fans. Collectors are in it for the money, getting return on their investments. Sharing their music will decrease the value of their investments.
Fans are in it for the music. Since Queen have been very reluctant in releasing unreleased stuff, fans can only beg the collectors to release unheard material.

Queen can solve all this by opening the vaults but they don't seem to care. They only focus on the mainstream fans, not the 5% diehard fans that get excited by unreleased acetate versions etc.

Conclusion: Stalemate. Some Queen-recordings will never be available to the fans. Although it's nice to discuss what may or may not be out there.

[QUOTE] [b]TomP63 wrote:[/b]

Lord Gaga, Roger did wrote Heaven for Everyone during the Magic session, which at some point was left out for the album. Roger re-recorded his version, twice to be precise for the Shove It! album.

To my knowlegde, only Keep passing the open windows was written to be appear in the aforementioned movie, but was later on rejected, if I'm not misstaken the lyric keep passing the open windows comes directly from the movie. Hopes this helped you a bit.....

Tom [/QUOTE]

Oh yes, I do know all that, I just meant on top of that.

Okay, ofcourse you did know this, it is common knowledge isn't it? Well they also laid down the following tracks: New York, New York, as featured in the Highlander movie, Friends in Pain, You're the only one, Back to the storm, altough the latter was originally written during the sessions for The Works.

Tom

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IMO it's the difference between collectors and fans. Collectors are in it for the money, getting return on their investments. Sharing their music will decrease the value of their investments.
Fans are in it for the music. Since Queen have been very reluctant in releasing unreleased stuff, fans can only beg the collectors to release unheard material.

Queen can solve all this by opening the vaults but they don't seem to care. They only focus on the mainstream fans, not the 5% diehard fans that get excited by unreleased acetate versions etc.

Conclusion: Stalemate. Some Queen-recordings will never be available to the fans. Although it's nice to discuss what may or may not be out there.
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Eh? You wouldn't be a Queen collector without being a fan. What others own is really of no concern to others and no one else has the right to access someone elses possessions. WTF. When you've bought an acetate or reel of something interesting for hundreds/thousands of pounds and then upload the content online for all to hear for free I'm sure everyone will rush to thank you and class you as a "fan" instead of a mere "collector".

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[QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]

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[b]inu-liger wrote: [/b] Shut up Meg[/QUOTE]

Welcome back ratty![/QUOTE]

Who?[/QUOTE]

Perhaps you can rat out to QPL the bootleggers that sell CD silvers.

@Negative Creep
Someone could be a collector just for the saking of making money with valuable collector's items. For some it's a business, a way to make money.
Sharing valuable items with a community/fan base would make the items less valuable and is therefore - financially - a bad move.
But from a community point of view it's a great thing to do.

I understand why collectors are reluctant to share rare content.
I also understand the frustration of fans who may never hear some pieces of great music recorded by their favorite artists.

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The usual self serving shite from the same band of collectors who call non-collectors "beggars" and are currently blackmailing Queenzone that no further material will be shared on the Sharing Forum until Queenzone collectively bows down and kisses their arse.

Pathetic little boys hoarding your shiny toys ...[/QUOTE]

For the win ...

Don't encourage them.....

[QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]inu-liger wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]

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[b]inu-liger wrote: [/b] Shut up Meg[/QUOTE]

Welcome back ratty![/QUOTE]

Who?[/QUOTE]

Perhaps you can rat out to QPL the bootleggers that sell CD silvers. [/QUOTE]

Not within my capacity logically speaking