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The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]GratefulFan wrote:[/b]
It can be safely assumed that Brenski would rather eat garden worms than seek out pictures of an ill Freddie or any number of other offenses to his delicate Fred sensibilities, so given the logic I guess we can look forward to the end of Brenski's copious, typically profane and assaultive commentary on all matters related.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for clearing that up. This thread can finally go to rest now.
It can be safely assumed that Brenski would rather eat garden worms than seek out pictures of an ill Freddie or any number of other offenses to his delicate Fred sensibilities, so given the logic I guess we can look forward to the end of Brenski's copious, typically profane and assaultive commentary on all matters related.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for clearing that up. This thread can finally go to rest now.
Freddie`s my Hero
[QUOTE] [b]Rogers Untidy Bottom wrote:[/b]
Well, well, well. How times change. How what was ridiculed a few years ago is now accepted as the truth.
Back in Summer 2004, I joined the Queenzone for about a couple of weeks. How things were different back then. I was based in London back then - at the hub of the "action".
I was still part of the "crew". There was a genuine desire to release the boxsets in 2006. I had access, as a friend, to a large number of acetates, unreleased songs, albums with different sounds, and so on.
I posted on Queenzone about the original versions of "Queen II" and the "The Game" and was widely ridiculed by the likes of John S Stuart and all.
Yes, I was the mysterious, slightly tongue-in-cheek "The Left Testicle of Freddie".
I'm now back in my hometown in England, cut out from the action. Following a major falling out with certain influential movers and shakers within the bubble, I am now persona non grata.
Just for the records - I was ridiculed for saying the "Seven Seas of Rhye" lasted originally around 4 minutes but was then cut back.
Lo and behold - one of the two 4 minute versions finally appears on Ebay - [url=http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QUEEN-ACETATE-Seven-Seas-Of-Rhye-alternate-version-MEGA-RARE-/390580025005?nma=true&si=U6hcg3GVOYTXteO%252FWJgZ2gxYBpo%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QUEEN-ACETATE-Seven-Seas-Of-Rhye-alternate-version-MEGA-RARE-/390580025005?nma=true&si=U6hcg3GVOYTXteO%252FWJgZ2gxYBpo%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557[/url].
For the records, the version of the song was not the "wrong backing track" - it was but it wasn't, it's hard to explain. I have been out of the loop for so long now that I don't know if a certain person still has the other 4-minute version (I heard it on a studio tape - don't know if an acetate version of it was made).
Queen II did originally have 13 songs. Their existence has now been confirmed in books despite the ridicule the suggestions attracted at the time.
I was told that "Deep Ridge" (originally meant to segue between White Queen and SDOD and was very Led Zep) was left off because the continuity of the sound wasn't quite right (in their minds). I thought it sounded great and lyrically, it sort of tied the album sides together making the concept stronger. It's hard to explain - sorry but been a few years since I heard the song now.
"Surrender To The City" lasted about 3 minutes from memory and was quite poppy. For some reason, unknown to me, only the first bit of it (heavily reworked though) was included on the album segueing directly into FHLI. That section became part of TMOFTBQ. When you think it about, despite that song's many different mood changes, have you never thought that the last 30 seconds didn't quite make sense in the soundscape of that song?
The reason for the non-appearance of the box sets is two-fold and I find the reasons unfortunate, especially for the fans who have stuck by the band up to 40 years.
a) Lack of will by band members - the argument about incomplete archives is partly true but they're nowhere near as incomplete as suggested. They're now all old men and don't particularly fancy the graft in putting them together. I sort of get that but it's a pisser for all of us.
b) The "Fanthology" members simply enjoy the competition between each other. I am not slagging them off - the amount of unreleased stuff they have given away free we should all be grateful for. They are fans first and foremost and all the rarities will surface over the next 20-30 years as they enjoy the gratitude of the general fans. Their argument about needing valuable stuff to trade is true.
Neither party has any interest in admitting that the outtakes, unreleased songs, etc is quite as vast as it is. You would generally be surprised.
I love this place and I love Queen. Do with this information as you will. I'll try to answer as many questions as possible but please bear in mind I am out of the circle now so some of it will be from memory.
(PS. The "left testicle" incident involved a microphone.
PPS. I know I didn't help my credibility with some of the posts I made the first time around but I like a bit of a laugh and most people seemed to enjoy the tongue-in-cheek bits I did).[/QUOTE]
I am fan of Queen but I don`t know all things and I don`t know where lie and truth, you know.
I would like to know:
Are there any demo versions of songs from the album [b]"A Night at the Opera," "Day at the Races", Jazz, Sheer Heart Attack, News Of the World[/b] [i]not to mention the song[/i] "[b]Feelings Feelings"[/b] [i]Take 10[/i]?
Thank you!
Well, well, well. How times change. How what was ridiculed a few years ago is now accepted as the truth.
Back in Summer 2004, I joined the Queenzone for about a couple of weeks. How things were different back then. I was based in London back then - at the hub of the "action".
I was still part of the "crew". There was a genuine desire to release the boxsets in 2006. I had access, as a friend, to a large number of acetates, unreleased songs, albums with different sounds, and so on.
I posted on Queenzone about the original versions of "Queen II" and the "The Game" and was widely ridiculed by the likes of John S Stuart and all.
Yes, I was the mysterious, slightly tongue-in-cheek "The Left Testicle of Freddie".
I'm now back in my hometown in England, cut out from the action. Following a major falling out with certain influential movers and shakers within the bubble, I am now persona non grata.
Just for the records - I was ridiculed for saying the "Seven Seas of Rhye" lasted originally around 4 minutes but was then cut back.
Lo and behold - one of the two 4 minute versions finally appears on Ebay - [url=http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QUEEN-ACETATE-Seven-Seas-Of-Rhye-alternate-version-MEGA-RARE-/390580025005?nma=true&si=U6hcg3GVOYTXteO%252FWJgZ2gxYBpo%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QUEEN-ACETATE-Seven-Seas-Of-Rhye-alternate-version-MEGA-RARE-/390580025005?nma=true&si=U6hcg3GVOYTXteO%252FWJgZ2gxYBpo%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557[/url].
For the records, the version of the song was not the "wrong backing track" - it was but it wasn't, it's hard to explain. I have been out of the loop for so long now that I don't know if a certain person still has the other 4-minute version (I heard it on a studio tape - don't know if an acetate version of it was made).
Queen II did originally have 13 songs. Their existence has now been confirmed in books despite the ridicule the suggestions attracted at the time.
I was told that "Deep Ridge" (originally meant to segue between White Queen and SDOD and was very Led Zep) was left off because the continuity of the sound wasn't quite right (in their minds). I thought it sounded great and lyrically, it sort of tied the album sides together making the concept stronger. It's hard to explain - sorry but been a few years since I heard the song now.
"Surrender To The City" lasted about 3 minutes from memory and was quite poppy. For some reason, unknown to me, only the first bit of it (heavily reworked though) was included on the album segueing directly into FHLI. That section became part of TMOFTBQ. When you think it about, despite that song's many different mood changes, have you never thought that the last 30 seconds didn't quite make sense in the soundscape of that song?
The reason for the non-appearance of the box sets is two-fold and I find the reasons unfortunate, especially for the fans who have stuck by the band up to 40 years.
a) Lack of will by band members - the argument about incomplete archives is partly true but they're nowhere near as incomplete as suggested. They're now all old men and don't particularly fancy the graft in putting them together. I sort of get that but it's a pisser for all of us.
b) The "Fanthology" members simply enjoy the competition between each other. I am not slagging them off - the amount of unreleased stuff they have given away free we should all be grateful for. They are fans first and foremost and all the rarities will surface over the next 20-30 years as they enjoy the gratitude of the general fans. Their argument about needing valuable stuff to trade is true.
Neither party has any interest in admitting that the outtakes, unreleased songs, etc is quite as vast as it is. You would generally be surprised.
I love this place and I love Queen. Do with this information as you will. I'll try to answer as many questions as possible but please bear in mind I am out of the circle now so some of it will be from memory.
(PS. The "left testicle" incident involved a microphone.
PPS. I know I didn't help my credibility with some of the posts I made the first time around but I like a bit of a laugh and most people seemed to enjoy the tongue-in-cheek bits I did).[/QUOTE]
I am fan of Queen but I don`t know all things and I don`t know where lie and truth, you know.
I would like to know:
Are there any demo versions of songs from the album [b]"A Night at the Opera," "Day at the Races", Jazz, Sheer Heart Attack, News Of the World[/b] [i]not to mention the song[/i] "[b]Feelings Feelings"[/b] [i]Take 10[/i]?
Thank you!
Holly2003
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[b]The Real Wizard wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
at least i can claim to have ever been in contact with the plot in the first place
think you and "it" are complete strangers
you were the one who said you had no interest....ffs - just exactly how much would you talk about something YOU WERE actually interested in?
cos if this is you NOT INTERESTED then you could talk the hind legs off a donkey[/QUOTE]
And ... brENsKi for the win.[/QUOTE]
errr..You are the one doing the long speeches, not me. You are the one who keeps bringing up this issue on the forum, not me. Your group of traders are the ones who brought the Fuller issue on to the forum, not me, Your little group are the ones who ratted Fuller to QPL, and boasted about it here, not me. You are the one threatening to cut off the Sharing Forum, not me. In contrast, I suggested you do all your dirty laundry off the forum. If I wasn't for your endless whining about it here, your self-serving indignation and threats, I wouldn't be commenting about it at all because I could give a flying fuck what a bunch of whiny children do with their toys.
You are a proper little Stalinist though, hoping that if you repeat the same lies over and over then they will stick. Good luck with that Joe: we're not all as dumb as you seem to think.
ps well done to brENsKi returning to lower case instead of UPPER CASE: the tranquilisers must be taking effect.
[b]The Real Wizard wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
at least i can claim to have ever been in contact with the plot in the first place
think you and "it" are complete strangers
you were the one who said you had no interest....ffs - just exactly how much would you talk about something YOU WERE actually interested in?
cos if this is you NOT INTERESTED then you could talk the hind legs off a donkey[/QUOTE]
And ... brENsKi for the win.[/QUOTE]
errr..You are the one doing the long speeches, not me. You are the one who keeps bringing up this issue on the forum, not me. Your group of traders are the ones who brought the Fuller issue on to the forum, not me, Your little group are the ones who ratted Fuller to QPL, and boasted about it here, not me. You are the one threatening to cut off the Sharing Forum, not me. In contrast, I suggested you do all your dirty laundry off the forum. If I wasn't for your endless whining about it here, your self-serving indignation and threats, I wouldn't be commenting about it at all because I could give a flying fuck what a bunch of whiny children do with their toys.
You are a proper little Stalinist though, hoping that if you repeat the same lies over and over then they will stick. Good luck with that Joe: we're not all as dumb as you seem to think.
ps well done to brENsKi returning to lower case instead of UPPER CASE: the tranquilisers must be taking effect.
Holly2003
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[b]inu-liger wrote: [/b] Shut up Meg[/QUOTE]
Welcome back ratty!
[b]inu-liger wrote: [/b] Shut up Meg[/QUOTE]
Welcome back ratty!
brENsKi
[QUOTE] [b]GratefulFan wrote:[/b]
It can be safely assumed that Brenski would rather eat garden worms than seek out pictures of an ill Freddie or any number of other offenses to his delicate Fred sensibilities, so given the logic I guess we can look forward to the end of Brenski's copious, typically profane and assaultive commentary on all matters related. And...Queenzone for the win.[/QUOTE]
you mean "your queenzone" for the win - ie your ideal of a sterile forum where only YOUR opinion counts and only what YOU say is right...and we all bow to your "considered and highly superior" viewpoint.
well, YOU might think...but self-righteous sanctimonious little pricks usually are like you. good luck with getting rid of me. tw*t
It can be safely assumed that Brenski would rather eat garden worms than seek out pictures of an ill Freddie or any number of other offenses to his delicate Fred sensibilities, so given the logic I guess we can look forward to the end of Brenski's copious, typically profane and assaultive commentary on all matters related. And...Queenzone for the win.[/QUOTE]
you mean "your queenzone" for the win - ie your ideal of a sterile forum where only YOUR opinion counts and only what YOU say is right...and we all bow to your "considered and highly superior" viewpoint.
well, YOU might think...but self-righteous sanctimonious little pricks usually are like you. good luck with getting rid of me. tw*t
brENsKi
[QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]
ps well done to brENsKi returning to lower case instead of UPPER CASE: the tranquilisers must be taking effect.[/QUOTE]
at least my pills work - there isn't a drug invented could fix your problems....interfering and busy-bodying into something you claim to have no interest whatsoever in...there's no treatment for that "illness" - why don't you spend your days in your local shopping centre...signing every petition you can find that you have no interest in?...silly me...you already did that
ps well done to brENsKi returning to lower case instead of UPPER CASE: the tranquilisers must be taking effect.[/QUOTE]
at least my pills work - there isn't a drug invented could fix your problems....interfering and busy-bodying into something you claim to have no interest whatsoever in...there's no treatment for that "illness" - why don't you spend your days in your local shopping centre...signing every petition you can find that you have no interest in?...silly me...you already did that
inu-liger
[QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]inu-liger wrote: [/b] Shut up Meg[/QUOTE]
Welcome back ratty![/QUOTE]
Who?
[QUOTE]
[b]inu-liger wrote: [/b] Shut up Meg[/QUOTE]
Welcome back ratty![/QUOTE]
Who?
Togg
This is without doubt the most interesting topic in years, I remember reading somewhere around the time of The Game being recorded that dozens of tracks were recorded and not used. At the time I was very excited about this but over time I forgot about it.
I have never heard any stories about The Game being a double album but it makes perfect sense from what I can remember at the time.
I have never understood why if they have decent tracks in the bank they have not done more with them, it doesnt make business sense given the desire from the public to hear rare Freddie tracks to hold them back, unless they are truly not up to standard... but people keep saying there are some good ones in there....
Why would QP not wish them released? I get why collectors don't but not the band?
Either way it would seem unlikely they will ever come out now officially, the time has passed and every day the reason to release them gets diluted.
Great topic very interesting
I have never heard any stories about The Game being a double album but it makes perfect sense from what I can remember at the time.
I have never understood why if they have decent tracks in the bank they have not done more with them, it doesnt make business sense given the desire from the public to hear rare Freddie tracks to hold them back, unless they are truly not up to standard... but people keep saying there are some good ones in there....
Why would QP not wish them released? I get why collectors don't but not the band?
Either way it would seem unlikely they will ever come out now officially, the time has passed and every day the reason to release them gets diluted.
Great topic very interesting
Holly2003
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[b]brENsKi wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]GratefulFan wrote:[/b]
It can be safely assumed that Brenski would rather eat garden worms than seek out pictures of an ill Freddie or any number of other offenses to his delicate Fred sensibilities, so given the logic I guess we can look forward to the end of Brenski's copious, typically profane and assaultive commentary on all matters related. And...Queenzone for the win.[/QUOTE]
you mean "your queenzone" for the win - ie your ideal of a sterile forum where only YOUR opinion counts and only what YOU say is right...and we all bow to your "considered and highly superior" viewpoint.
well, YOU might think...but self-righteous sanctimonious little pricks usually are like you. good luck with getting rid of me. tw*t
[/QUOTE]
You're projecting your own issues/fantasies onto GF. Most of your time on QZ is spent trying to shout down people with whom you disagree. And that's what you do when you aren't bullying newbies. You're a flat-pitch bully and you don't like it when others disagree with you. You're in good company there with The Real Wizard.
[b]brENsKi wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]GratefulFan wrote:[/b]
It can be safely assumed that Brenski would rather eat garden worms than seek out pictures of an ill Freddie or any number of other offenses to his delicate Fred sensibilities, so given the logic I guess we can look forward to the end of Brenski's copious, typically profane and assaultive commentary on all matters related. And...Queenzone for the win.[/QUOTE]
you mean "your queenzone" for the win - ie your ideal of a sterile forum where only YOUR opinion counts and only what YOU say is right...and we all bow to your "considered and highly superior" viewpoint.
well, YOU might think...but self-righteous sanctimonious little pricks usually are like you. good luck with getting rid of me. tw*t
[/QUOTE]
You're projecting your own issues/fantasies onto GF. Most of your time on QZ is spent trying to shout down people with whom you disagree. And that's what you do when you aren't bullying newbies. You're a flat-pitch bully and you don't like it when others disagree with you. You're in good company there with The Real Wizard.
Holly2003
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[b]brENsKi wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]
ps well done to brENsKi returning to lower case instead of UPPER CASE: the tranquilisers must be taking effect.[/QUOTE]
at least my pills work - there isn't a drug invented could fix your problems....interfering and busy-bodying into something you claim to have no interest whatsoever in...there's no treatment for that "illness" - why don't you spend your days in your local shopping centre...signing every petition you can find that you have no interest in?...silly me...you already did that
[/QUOTE]
^ Anyone know what Father Jack's on about?
[b]brENsKi wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]
ps well done to brENsKi returning to lower case instead of UPPER CASE: the tranquilisers must be taking effect.[/QUOTE]
at least my pills work - there isn't a drug invented could fix your problems....interfering and busy-bodying into something you claim to have no interest whatsoever in...there's no treatment for that "illness" - why don't you spend your days in your local shopping centre...signing every petition you can find that you have no interest in?...silly me...you already did that
[/QUOTE]
^ Anyone know what Father Jack's on about?
brENsKi
seems to me that BOTH yourself and GreafulSpam are doing as much "shouting down" as any. - at least if i shout at someone - i don't pretend to be some form of "online policing for the guardians of moral decency" - that's hypocritical of you both.
for my part - i have engaged in one of the most interesting discussions to appear on here in years - and, without input from you pair there would've been no hostility on this thread.
pot and kettle. or to quote Ade Edmondson "hoisted by your own leotard"
for my part - i have engaged in one of the most interesting discussions to appear on here in years - and, without input from you pair there would've been no hostility on this thread.
pot and kettle. or to quote Ade Edmondson "hoisted by your own leotard"
Hang On In There
Well, this thread started out interesting - I'd never heard about the possibility of The Game being a double album. An alternate version of Queen II, one of my favourites, would be very curious. I really doubt we'll ever hear any of this stuff, I guess it's fun to speculate - why does it always turn into a fight though?
brENsKi
like i said it was going swimmingly til the playground prefects turned up to indoctrinate us all.
but we could get back on topic.
one thing i find curious....if there was so much stuff recorded for II and The Game - why such a dirth of
"extras" on the 2011 "non-deluxe editions"
but we could get back on topic.
one thing i find curious....if there was so much stuff recorded for II and The Game - why such a dirth of
"extras" on the 2011 "non-deluxe editions"
Holly2003
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[b]brENsKi wrote: [/b] seems to me that BOTH yourself and GreafulSpam are doing as much "shouting down" as any. - at least if i shout at someone - i don't pretend to be some form of "online policing for the guardians of moral decency" - that's hypocritical of you both.
for my part - i have engaged in one of the most interesting discussions to appear on here in years - and, without input from you pair there would've been no hostility on this thread.
pot and kettle. or to quote Ade Edmondson "hoisted by your own leotard"[/QUOTE]
Yeah, you're Queenzone's greatest hero. Tell me some more great things about yourself.
[b]brENsKi wrote: [/b] seems to me that BOTH yourself and GreafulSpam are doing as much "shouting down" as any. - at least if i shout at someone - i don't pretend to be some form of "online policing for the guardians of moral decency" - that's hypocritical of you both.
for my part - i have engaged in one of the most interesting discussions to appear on here in years - and, without input from you pair there would've been no hostility on this thread.
pot and kettle. or to quote Ade Edmondson "hoisted by your own leotard"[/QUOTE]
Yeah, you're Queenzone's greatest hero. Tell me some more great things about yourself.