The truth Queen/"Fanthology"/etc don't want you to know about Queen II

I for one didn't frequent the board much when you were here the first time R.U.B. - can you explain who you are and why you were privvy to so much inside information? I remain skeptical. But I've always been open minded enouth to hear people out...

[QUOTE] [b]Rogers Untidy Bottom wrote:[/b]

I'm happy to answer any questions you've got but please phrase them as individual (sets of) questions rather than "tell us everything!"

I ain't a writer but I am happy for others to use the accurate information I have provided in reference works. Like they did last time, doubters.[/QUOTE]

Welp, I'm intrigued!

What do you recall about the Kind of Magic sessions? Any unreleased songs from that period?

Probably not relevant to most however, am glad to read that someone else noticed that BM disliked FM! I've thought it for sometime. I cringe at the interviews where he claims such love for Freddie. Roger was far more genuine in those interviews. I think he only likes the cash that rolls in ...oh and his insane love of badgers. He certainly doesn't care at all for the long time Queen fans.

Thanks for the interesting thread.

The Real Wizard, I enjoy reading your posts, thank you.

[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]

Call it an ad hominem exercise if you want, but I still speak the truth. If you want to learn about how unreleased music makes its way to your computer, I suggest you enter the discussion without preconceptions and listen open-mindedly to those who have been actively involved in the process for decades, not people who don't have the first clue about it. They're like creationists getting in the way of a debate on evolution. Listen to people who have done the research and have first hand experience, not people who are fueled by ignorant convictions that have no basis in reality or practice.[/QUOTE]

The fundamental folly of this is and always has been that it's not your reality that is being described. It the reality of those of us with our faces pressed up against the glass. You don't need to be an economist to know that trickle down economics is problematic and you don't need to be a trader to know that Wall Street ethics can suck. If rare music discovery and sharing were to spring forth from nothing today it would never be as it has evolved. Stop trying to convince smart people that tyranny is good for them. It's a bit reprehensible, though nothing less than I've grown to expect from you. Be greedy and grubby and selfish with music for the rest of your natural life as you please, but stop insulting the intelligence of people who are excluded.

@GratefulFan - tyranny? that's a huge exaggeration - even by your standards.
if you're so noble/altruistic/genuine and (more importantly) so anti what the Fantology do
then why don't you put yer own money where your oh-so-condescending mouth is?

how about you go out there, buy a few hundred dollars worth of rare queen tracks
and upload it ALL here lossless gratis for everyone immediately?

no? thought not! - cos it's easy to criticise from a position of "purity"
out of interest, exactly how much of the fantology leaked rarities have you downloaded? because unless the answer is ZERO...you should stop preaching

Bullshit Brenski. People have not paid adequate attention to the utter dishonest sliminess of the savaging of David Fuller. Because he's an unlikable person it's been too easy and people have not paid attention to how poor that case really was and to how self serving it is. David has another idea about where rare music belongs and when you crush competing ideas with your power that is the definition of tyranny. I have no problem putting some money where my mouth is. It was me that pointed out that nobody ever had given me an opportunity to contribute financially and if they had I'd have done so. It was me who wondered aloud about pooling our money to buy stuff from Fuller and releasing it immediately here. The problem is that I don't have the appropriate knowledge of the material and I would not be comfortable ethically if David had only got the material from Fanthology as Fanthology claims and not through other trades as David claims, and the truth on that is NOT clear despite what Fanthology would like you to think. So I feel stuck. But be assured it's NOTHING to do with not being willing to put my money where my mouth is. And I haven't downloaded any Fanthology rarities. I listened to what was made available on YouTube.

[QUOTE] [b]GratefulFan wrote:[/b]

And I haven't downloaded any Fanthology rarities. I listened to what was made available on YouTube.[/QUOTE]

... almost ALL of which originally came from people in the fanthology. That's the key element you're missing. You don't know what a "fanthology rarity" is because you don't know who is in it.

About 95% of the studio and live recordings available were brought to you by any number of the very people you have committed to slagging off as a full time job.

Again, your ignorance rules the day.

Are you listening yet?

[QUOTE] [b]GratefulFan wrote:[/b]

I have no problem putting some money where my mouth is. It was me that pointed out that nobody ever had given me an opportunity to contribute financially and if they had I'd have done so.[/QUOTE]

So you're blaming collectors because you have chosen not to network with them?

Your idiocy just jumped tenfold.

[QUOTE] [b]GratefulFan wrote:[/b]

Bullshit Brenski. [/QUOTE]

everything you have ever downloaded or listened to has come from somewhere...traders/collectors/fantology...so it's YOU who's uttering the bullshit

secondly, and more importantly - fuller joined a "club" and then broke the rules of the club...that makes him the treacherous one. that makes him the one in the wrong. because if he'd been upfront with them and said "can i join? contribute then leak everything?" he knows they'd have said we don't want you

get your head out for your own self-righteous arse and see the truth...or are you Fuller's lovechild?

The usual self serving shite from the same band of collectors who call non-collectors "beggars" and are currently blackmailing Queenzone that no further material will be shared on the Sharing Forum until Queenzone collectively bows down and kisses their arse.

Pathetic little boys hoarding your shiny toys ...

Or you can just find rarities and release them yourself.

Nobody's stopping you.

Good luck !

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[b]The Real Wizard wrote: [/b] Or you can just find rarities and release them yourself.

Nobody's stopping you.

Good luck ![/QUOTE]

No need to wish me good luck. I've little interest in your hobby. Good luck though hoarding and trading all your little files!

So you know nothing about it and have no interest in it.

Tell me more about your expertise.

And why, pray tell, do you post at a Queen forum if unreleased songs from 1974 do not interest you?

of course people are "interested" but only if things are free....
[i]"The grabbing hands
Grab all they can
Everything counts in large amounts"[/i]