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Ale Solan
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Mr.QueenFan
[QUOTE] [b]Ale Solan wrote:[/b]
[url=http://www.mediafire.com/?m1vv30coqfpadd6 ]http://www.mediafire.com/?m1vv30coqfpadd6 [/url][/QUOTE]
Thanks for the file but mediafire already blocked the file.
But i download it using Inu-Liger tip. Thanks guys!
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Thanks for the file but mediafire already blocked the file.
But i download it using Inu-Liger tip. Thanks guys!
John S Stuart
Double post. See below...
John S Stuart
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[b]Mr.QueenFan wrote: [/b] This is a great share. Thank you for sharing it...
As for John S Stuart, it´s sad that such thing happened to you, life is what it is and sometimes shit like this happens. I´m not going to be a hypocrit, i´m enjoying this new music. This is exciting...
Having said this i hope that someone at QP or Universal realise that it could be a good idea for the proper Box Set release.
[b]This is the most honest and refreshing mail I think I have ever read in here.[/b]
[b]Thank you...[/b]
[b]If you enjoy the music; that makes it worthwhile.[/b]
This is where we as a QZ community have lost the plot (IMO).
Queenzone is like an iceberg in that 9/10ths of it's membership is below the waterline and never to be seen.
Queenzone has over 1,000 members. Many Lurkers, and many leechers. (Now I do not use that word contentiously so bear with me)...
Many contribute ideas. Many contribute music, many contribute information, many contribute anecdotes, some contribute the odd humorous (or even sarcastic line)... but most QZ'ers (90% by my above calculations) contribute nothing, zip, nada.
Not one word not even a Thank-you for something they have downloaded for free, and then they have the cheek to expect more - or worse still complain when they don't get it!
Look at the number of times this track has been downloaded (over 230 at last count) .
Now look at the number of replies to this thread.
Now examine how many replies to this thread have included a "thank you", or a "kind" or a "positive word".
Remember: Those "Thank yous" represent less than 1% of 1% of the total downloaders!
Now I am not getting at those "regular readers" who may take this personally, and think that I am having a go at them.
[b]Not at all.[/b]
[b]That is NOT why I wrote this. You are not my audience.[/b]
You are a regular reader. You are a contributor, you write the odd comment now and again, you take part in the odd discussion, and (more importantly) you freely express your opinion and that makes for a great diversity.
My beef is with the silent majority who (in my opinion) just come here to take, take, take what they can and then sod off without even as much as a by your leave, because all they after is what they can get (like the Dementers in Harry Potter); and sod everyone else...
That I find truly disappointing. I may be wrong; but of course the evidence to suggest otherwise would be more thank-you notes like the one above. It is just common courtesy after all - isn't it?
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[b]Mr.QueenFan wrote: [/b] This is a great share. Thank you for sharing it...
As for John S Stuart, it´s sad that such thing happened to you, life is what it is and sometimes shit like this happens. I´m not going to be a hypocrit, i´m enjoying this new music. This is exciting...
Having said this i hope that someone at QP or Universal realise that it could be a good idea for the proper Box Set release.
[b]This is the most honest and refreshing mail I think I have ever read in here.[/b]
[b]Thank you...[/b]
[b]If you enjoy the music; that makes it worthwhile.[/b]
This is where we as a QZ community have lost the plot (IMO).
Queenzone is like an iceberg in that 9/10ths of it's membership is below the waterline and never to be seen.
Queenzone has over 1,000 members. Many Lurkers, and many leechers. (Now I do not use that word contentiously so bear with me)...
Many contribute ideas. Many contribute music, many contribute information, many contribute anecdotes, some contribute the odd humorous (or even sarcastic line)... but most QZ'ers (90% by my above calculations) contribute nothing, zip, nada.
Not one word not even a Thank-you for something they have downloaded for free, and then they have the cheek to expect more - or worse still complain when they don't get it!
Look at the number of times this track has been downloaded (over 230 at last count) .
Now look at the number of replies to this thread.
Now examine how many replies to this thread have included a "thank you", or a "kind" or a "positive word".
Remember: Those "Thank yous" represent less than 1% of 1% of the total downloaders!
Now I am not getting at those "regular readers" who may take this personally, and think that I am having a go at them.
[b]Not at all.[/b]
[b]That is NOT why I wrote this. You are not my audience.[/b]
You are a regular reader. You are a contributor, you write the odd comment now and again, you take part in the odd discussion, and (more importantly) you freely express your opinion and that makes for a great diversity.
My beef is with the silent majority who (in my opinion) just come here to take, take, take what they can and then sod off without even as much as a by your leave, because all they after is what they can get (like the Dementers in Harry Potter); and sod everyone else...
That I find truly disappointing. I may be wrong; but of course the evidence to suggest otherwise would be more thank-you notes like the one above. It is just common courtesy after all - isn't it?
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scottmax
Just a question. People say oh the 'fanthology' would release this that and the other? Would they? Or is it just a reason to have a go about Fuller and stuff. I'm not for a minute defending Fuller or JSS or anyone, it's just people say stuff on here and don't really back it up
Gaabiizz
Definitely is real, thank you very much for sharing
inu-liger
[QUOTE] [b]scottmax wrote:[/b]
Just a question. People say oh the 'fanthology' would release this that and the other? Would they? Or is it just a reason to have a go about Fuller and stuff. I'm not for a minute defending Fuller or JSS or anyone, it's just people say stuff on here and don't really back it up[/QUOTE]
It's not a convenient excuse. This even goes back to the briefing I was given when I was initially invited to be a part of Fanthology; They had a relatively soft timeframe they wanted to try and work with over a year or two's period in secret basically to gather up as many rarities as possible, and as many sources as possible for members to sort through and filter out the higher-generation copies in order to present the highest quality rarity possible for any given track or video; all intended to be released as a massive rarity online boxset. Especially to fill a void left by an oft-broken promise dating back to the early 1990's from QPL of such a boxset!
Think something like the massive Pink Floyd "A Tree Full Of Secrets" 17CD set, and that should give you an idea of what the group wanted to achieve.
What you guys seem to have a willfull stubbornly hard time coming to grips with however, is that when Fuller decided to act the part of the narcissistic Robin Hood rather than be mature and honor the group's agreements, he not only fucked over the group (who was in the middle of negotiating SEVERAL trades for material that would have been intended for release long down the road in that very set), he also fucked YOU moanzoners over as a whole.
One thing that pisses me off in all of this, is that you guys BITCH, and MOAN, and BITCH about collectors hoarding wares and making you lot wait a LONG time to hear these desirable jems.
The Fanthologists had decided it was time to collect together all these jems and wares, BUT to do it with the highest quality presentation in mind which many of us can agree is not even QPL's greatest strength at all with their own official releases.
But all Fuller did as a result of serving his own selfish purposes, was put stopgaps which has very likely added probably anywhere from 2-?? many more years' wait for us to hear the gems virtually all in one place.
WHY people are shitting more on the Fanthologists than the real crook Fuller here is absolutely beyond me.
It's no wonder trying to figure out the mentality of this board's overall membership is a massive headache to take on!!
scottmax
thanks for the reply inu. I understand why everyone is pissed off with Fuller. I remember years ago when I came across his YouTube channel and to be honest I think the majority of people would agree it was tremendous. How did he acquire his stuff then? Obviously now he's the 'black sheep' , and rightly so. But on the other hand, those who have trusted him recently, why? Were they going to receive gems from him? They must have known he would put things on his YouTube channel or at least not keep them to himself? Was he a known collector before all of this kicked off?
John S Stuart
John S Stuart
Again; thank you to Inu above for the voice of reason, in that - that was precisely the brief set, and that's what I do not understand.
Why not Google Beatles Fanthology - and see the example what their fans set?
We lost a lot of ground and a lot of friends and a lot of Goodwill. The Stupid thing is Fuller's Robin Hood act took place within a few months of the project. He didn't even have the sense to wait a year or two before cutting lose. But in the meantime it has caused more damage to the Queen community than they will ever realise, because nowadays both greed and instant gratification are more important than investment (time and effort) and quality.
That's why collectors will always have the last laugh. Grateful Fan's ubiquitous utopian order was closer than she ever released (that is not a dig) and her comparison of opening a metaphorical exhibit was scuppered at the collecting/gathering stage. We never even got the opportunity to open shop.
But when Fuller's well runs dry... it runs dry forever; because all the good will; will never exist again.
Why not Google Beatles Fanthology - and see the example what their fans set?
We lost a lot of ground and a lot of friends and a lot of Goodwill. The Stupid thing is Fuller's Robin Hood act took place within a few months of the project. He didn't even have the sense to wait a year or two before cutting lose. But in the meantime it has caused more damage to the Queen community than they will ever realise, because nowadays both greed and instant gratification are more important than investment (time and effort) and quality.
That's why collectors will always have the last laugh. Grateful Fan's ubiquitous utopian order was closer than she ever released (that is not a dig) and her comparison of opening a metaphorical exhibit was scuppered at the collecting/gathering stage. We never even got the opportunity to open shop.
But when Fuller's well runs dry... it runs dry forever; because all the good will; will never exist again.
John S Stuart
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[b]scottmax wrote: [/b] thanks for the reply inu. I understand why everyone is pissed off with Fuller. I remember years ago when I came across his YouTube channel and to be honest I think the majority of people would agree it was tremendous. How did he acquire his stuff then? Obviously now he's the 'black sheep' , and rightly so. But on the other hand, those who have trusted him recently, why? Were they going to receive gems from him? They must have known he would put things on his YouTube channel or at least not keep them to himself? Was he a known collector before all of this kicked off?
The fanthology was created to bring together people of different disciplines across the board. Fuller was brought in because of what he could offer; he was brought in for his video editing and YouTube skills and head up a sub team of sifting through hours of unreleased video footage to find the first versions.
He personally uploaded nothing (the logs of uploads and downloads exist) except for a Gareth Marx YouTube video from Marx personal site. The project was a "secret" because it was a work in progress.
There was also going to be a fan-made documentary by professionals in the field - but hey; that vision was destroyed. That's why all the frustration and anger. You see we know what is being drip fed now; in comparison to what could have been, and the former is a very poor substitute indeed.
But why not ask him direct?
He had the same brief as everyone else.
If I can be arsed; I may even upload his invitation sometime.[/QUOTE]
[b]scottmax wrote: [/b] thanks for the reply inu. I understand why everyone is pissed off with Fuller. I remember years ago when I came across his YouTube channel and to be honest I think the majority of people would agree it was tremendous. How did he acquire his stuff then? Obviously now he's the 'black sheep' , and rightly so. But on the other hand, those who have trusted him recently, why? Were they going to receive gems from him? They must have known he would put things on his YouTube channel or at least not keep them to himself? Was he a known collector before all of this kicked off?
The fanthology was created to bring together people of different disciplines across the board. Fuller was brought in because of what he could offer; he was brought in for his video editing and YouTube skills and head up a sub team of sifting through hours of unreleased video footage to find the first versions.
He personally uploaded nothing (the logs of uploads and downloads exist) except for a Gareth Marx YouTube video from Marx personal site. The project was a "secret" because it was a work in progress.
There was also going to be a fan-made documentary by professionals in the field - but hey; that vision was destroyed. That's why all the frustration and anger. You see we know what is being drip fed now; in comparison to what could have been, and the former is a very poor substitute indeed.
But why not ask him direct?
He had the same brief as everyone else.
If I can be arsed; I may even upload his invitation sometime.[/QUOTE]
John S Stuart
[QUOTE] [b]scottmax wrote: [/b]thanks for the reply inu. I understand why everyone is pissed off with Fuller. I remember years ago when I came across his YouTube channel and to be honest I think the majority of people would agree it was tremendous. How did he acquire his stuff then? Obviously now he's the 'black sheep' , and rightly so. But on the other hand, those who have trusted him recently, why? Were they going to receive gems from him? They must have known he would put things on his YouTube channel or at least not keep them to himself? Was he a known collector before all of this kicked off?.[/QUOTE]
The fanthology was created to bring together people of different disciplines across the board. Fuller was brought in because of what he could offer; he was brought in for his video editing and YouTube skills and head up a sub team of sifting through hours of unreleased video footage to find the first versions.
He personally uploaded nothing (the logs of uploads and downloads exist) except for a Gareth Marx YouTube video from Marx personal site. The project was a "secret" because it was a work in progress.
There was also going to be a fan-made documentary by professionals in the field - but hey; that vision was destroyed. That's why all the frustration and anger. You see we know what is being drip fed now; in comparison to what could have been, and the former is a very poor substitute indeed.
But why not ask him direct?
He had the same brief as everyone else.
If I can be arsed; I may even upload his invitation sometime.
The fanthology was created to bring together people of different disciplines across the board. Fuller was brought in because of what he could offer; he was brought in for his video editing and YouTube skills and head up a sub team of sifting through hours of unreleased video footage to find the first versions.
He personally uploaded nothing (the logs of uploads and downloads exist) except for a Gareth Marx YouTube video from Marx personal site. The project was a "secret" because it was a work in progress.
There was also going to be a fan-made documentary by professionals in the field - but hey; that vision was destroyed. That's why all the frustration and anger. You see we know what is being drip fed now; in comparison to what could have been, and the former is a very poor substitute indeed.
But why not ask him direct?
He had the same brief as everyone else.
If I can be arsed; I may even upload his invitation sometime.
John S Stuart
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[b]scottmax wrote: [/b]
thanks for the reply inu. I understand why everyone is pissed off with Fuller. I remember years ago when I came across his YouTube channel and to be honest I think the majority of people would agree it was tremendous. How did he acquire his stuff then? Obviously now he's the 'black sheep' , and rightly so. But on the other hand, those who have trusted him recently, why? Were they going to receive gems from him? They must have known he would put things on his YouTube channel or at least not keep them to himself? Was he a known collector before all of this kicked off?.[/QUOTE]
The fanthology was created to bring together people of different disciplines across the board. Fuller was brought in because of what he could offer; he was brought in for his video editing and YouTube skills and head up a sub team of sifting through hours of unreleased video footage to find the first versions.
He personally uploaded nothing (the logs of uploads and downloads exist) except for a Gareth Marx YouTube video from Marx personal site. The project was a "secret" because it was a work in progress.
There was also going to be a fan-made documentary by professionals in the field - but hey; that vision was destroyed. That's why all the frustration and anger. You see we know what is being drip fed now; in comparison to what could have been, and the former is a very poor substitute indeed.
But why not ask him direct?
He had the same brief as everyone else.
If I can be arsed; I may even upload his invitation sometime.
[b]scottmax wrote: [/b]
thanks for the reply inu. I understand why everyone is pissed off with Fuller. I remember years ago when I came across his YouTube channel and to be honest I think the majority of people would agree it was tremendous. How did he acquire his stuff then? Obviously now he's the 'black sheep' , and rightly so. But on the other hand, those who have trusted him recently, why? Were they going to receive gems from him? They must have known he would put things on his YouTube channel or at least not keep them to himself? Was he a known collector before all of this kicked off?.[/QUOTE]
The fanthology was created to bring together people of different disciplines across the board. Fuller was brought in because of what he could offer; he was brought in for his video editing and YouTube skills and head up a sub team of sifting through hours of unreleased video footage to find the first versions.
He personally uploaded nothing (the logs of uploads and downloads exist) except for a Gareth Marx YouTube video from Marx personal site. The project was a "secret" because it was a work in progress.
There was also going to be a fan-made documentary by professionals in the field - but hey; that vision was destroyed. That's why all the frustration and anger. You see we know what is being drip fed now; in comparison to what could have been, and the former is a very poor substitute indeed.
But why not ask him direct?
He had the same brief as everyone else.
If I can be arsed; I may even upload his invitation sometime.
John S Stuart
QUOTE]
[b]scottmax wrote: [/b]
thanks for the reply inu. I understand why everyone is pissed off with Fuller. I remember years ago when I came across his YouTube channel and to be honest I think the majority of people would agree it was tremendous. How did he acquire his stuff then? Obviously now he's the 'black sheep' , and rightly so. But on the other hand, those who have trusted him recently, why? Were they going to receive gems from him? They must have known he would put things on his YouTube channel or at least not keep them to himself? Was he a known collector before all of this kicked off?.[/QUOTE]
The fanthology was created to bring together people of different disciplines across the board. Fuller was brought in because of what he could offer; he was brought in for his video editing and YouTube skills and head up a sub team of sifting through hours of unreleased video footage to find the first versions.
He personally uploaded nothing (the logs of uploads and downloads exist) except for a Gareth Marx YouTube video from Marx personal site. The project was a "secret" because it was a work in progress.
There was also going to be a fan-made documentary by professionals in the field - but hey; that vision was destroyed. That's why all the frustration and anger. You see we know what is being drip fed now; in comparison to what could have been, and the former is a very poor substitute indeed.
But why not ask him direct?
He had the same brief as everyone else.
If I can be arsed; I may even upload his invitation sometime.
[b]scottmax wrote: [/b]
thanks for the reply inu. I understand why everyone is pissed off with Fuller. I remember years ago when I came across his YouTube channel and to be honest I think the majority of people would agree it was tremendous. How did he acquire his stuff then? Obviously now he's the 'black sheep' , and rightly so. But on the other hand, those who have trusted him recently, why? Were they going to receive gems from him? They must have known he would put things on his YouTube channel or at least not keep them to himself? Was he a known collector before all of this kicked off?.[/QUOTE]
The fanthology was created to bring together people of different disciplines across the board. Fuller was brought in because of what he could offer; he was brought in for his video editing and YouTube skills and head up a sub team of sifting through hours of unreleased video footage to find the first versions.
He personally uploaded nothing (the logs of uploads and downloads exist) except for a Gareth Marx YouTube video from Marx personal site. The project was a "secret" because it was a work in progress.
There was also going to be a fan-made documentary by professionals in the field - but hey; that vision was destroyed. That's why all the frustration and anger. You see we know what is being drip fed now; in comparison to what could have been, and the former is a very poor substitute indeed.
But why not ask him direct?
He had the same brief as everyone else.
If I can be arsed; I may even upload his invitation sometime.