[b]YourValentine wrote: [/b] @ Holly: My post was strictly my personal opinion - like any other user of this message board.I am not trying to shut up anybody in my role as a site admin. I never suggested I would moderate GF or even ban her, so please calm down and mind your blood pressure. I cannot believe the paranoia and exaggeration of your post.[/QUOTE]
After your rant about GF earlier in the thread I'd be careful about dishing out "calm down" advice.
Holly2003 · Member since
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[b]brENsKi wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b] The problem here is that a small group of collectors demands the right to say whatever they like, without anyone dissenting. And when there is dissent, they respond with abuse and bullying...[/QUOTE] you and GF talk "AT" me like i'm involved - for the last f**king time - i have not collected any queen music since 1990!!!! i have not been, am not currently and never will be ANY part of ANY trade/collectors/fantology type circles - stop stop treating my posts like I am. what i say is my opinion, not based on any bias or "group" concensus. i am calling it as i see it, and the basis of you and GF "lumping" anyone who agrees with the collectors as "having to be one" is f8cking ridiculous, and insulting.
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You fnd it insulting to be called a collector? Hmmm..
Anyway, that's not what happened. See my post of 23 May 13, 02:01 in which I clearly separated you out from some of the whiny collectors here. Abusive, unable to read -- yes. But not a collector.
brENsKi · Member since
the insulting aspect of your comment was that you are unable to separate unbiased opinion from the "agenda" you perceive to be going on
not arguing with you anymore, see no point in trying to discuss anything with the TWO people around here whose only modus operndi is to argue for argument's sake.
you're so predictable - you'll have to come back at this in some veiled attempt to goad. feel free to have the last word
John S Stuart · Member since
Groundhog Day 475...
Holly2003: "The problem here is that a small group of collectors demands the right to say whatever they like, without anyone dissenting. And when there is dissent, they respond with abuse and bullying..."
Unlike Brenski, I am a collector.
Yes; I am proud of it, and no; "collector" is not a dirty word. So I will not apologise or Kowtow to anyone who suggests otherwise.
But just to clarify; I do not demand anything from anyone. If you wish to disagree with me - do so, after all, everyone is entitled to their opinion.
I am being neither abusive or bullying here, but I do reserve the right to disagree with you. But that does not make me a bully.
I do however have two very strong arguments; which never get answered and always leads me back into this godforsaken spiral.
So in an attempt to break that spiral; (as you can read above) (1) why was this thread hi-jacked from a civilised discussion into a flame war?
There was no need, it was never going in that direction. The ink wasn't even allowed to dry when Inu wrote in this very thread: "my question to you now that we've got most of our bickering and talking points out of the way as a collective whole"; before a whole new flame-fest erupted - why? What ever happened to protocol, etiquette and even good manners?
(2) We need to agree to disagree on the Fuller affair and draw a line under it and let it go.
I was there. I know what happened and have said so, and will continue to do so as I will not be brow-beaten into saying anything else.
David of course has the right to reply, if he so choses to exercise that right
Everyone else is just pitching in with speculation and guesswork; I agree that this is a free expression of their opinion, but that does not make them correct!
So there resolution if we want it... and yes; this is an olive branch.
dudeofqueen · Member since
So.......what about a list?
;-)
Vali · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]dudeofqueen wrote:[/b]
So.......what about a list?
;-)[/QUOTE]
hahahahaaha ! noooo !!
World War 1 started excactly from the same point !
You already want WW2 to start so soon ?
:)))
Thistle · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Vali wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]dudeofqueen wrote:[/b]
So.......what about a list?
;-)[/QUOTE]
hahahahaaha ! noooo !!
World War 1 started excactly from the same point !
You already want WW2 to start so soon ?
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I believe WW1 was 1914-1918; WW2 was 1939-1945; WW3 (Fullergate) was 2013. By my reckoning, WW4 is what could errupt......but hopefully NOT!!!
tcc · Member since
I only joined in 2009 but from what I have read so far:
WW1 = Flac vs MP3 (with some wounded soldiers still hobbling around in anger) WW2 = GH III (which led to the term "Stepford fan" being coined) WW3 = QPR WW4 = Q and Adam Lambert WW5 = Fullergate Minor wars - KISS, GB
Pim Derks · Member since
WW2 was definitely not about GHIII, as I don't think FLAC was even around in 1999. Nor was the 'Zone I think.
brENsKi · Member since
and KISS don't merit "battle" status, let alone decreeing it a war
Lord Gaga · Member since
I believe QZ was; I remember coming here around 1996 or 1997, when my family first got the Internet.
I have no idea what Fuller did or didn't do,
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For the sake of QZ let that be enough and just let it go.
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Please take your own advice and give it a rest. How can anyone repeat that they know nothing about an issue but keep filling pages and pages of wild guesses, suggestions and fantasies? How does it make you feel accusing people about things you have zero knowledge of? Do you feel morally superior? You are not. You have turned from a nice screen person into a troll who has no life but keeps ranting about things you have no clue about and gets a sick pleasure out of other peoples' misfortune.
Just let it go and please spare me another rant because I won't answer you like I did not answer to this issue for the last five months.[/QUOTE]
hear hear!!! - thanks Barb
about f*cking time someone told this sanctimonious c*nt to shut the f*ck up with the cyber patrol....hasn't Gratefulfanny a schoolyard to be prefecting? because this place is sick of it
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You don't speak for "this place". GF contributes more here than you've ever done. Your contributions amount to little more than abuse and slabbering.[/QUOTE]
Can you find a post here where GratefullFan shows her(?) appreciation for the music or any Queen member over the years?
I don´t know who Gratefull Fan is, but there´s nothing gratefull on her posts. The last couple years her posts about Brian´s campaign about Badgers and concerning Live Aid where amongst the more violent i´ve even seen towards an artist by a "fan" with the sole purpose of denigrating Brian´s image on a public forum. Her atention to detail in dissecting every little piece of the events to find one minor contradiction only shows that she´s on a mission to destroy Brian´s character. I don´t know what´s gracefull about that, but i would expect that behaviour from "The News of the World", not here in Queenzone.
I´m not saying we have to agree with Brian´s views on those matters, because we don´t. Diversity is good to the world, just stating an example of the lengths that she goes just to prove that someone is wrong and she´s right!
To the point where i made the conscious choice of not arguing with GratefullFAn ever again. She has a lot to say but i´m not interest anymore. It´s not good for my well being to engage with discussions with people who´s only purpose isn´t to get clarification, but only to be... right!
So, if she wants to be right, then she´s right because i´m not arguing with her anymore.
And i believe that the same applies to you Holly2003.
Cheers.
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Mr.QueenFan wrote:[/b]
I don´t know who Gratefull Fan is, but there´s nothing gratefull on her posts. The last couple years her posts about Brian´s campaign about Badgers and concerning Live Aid where amongst the more violent i´ve even seen towards an artist by a "fan" with the sole purpose of denigrating Brian´s image on a public forum. Her atention to detail in dissecting every little piece of the events to find one minor contradiction only shows that she´s on a mission to destroy Brian´s character. I don´t know what´s gracefull about that, but i would expect that behaviour from "The News of the World", not here in Queenzone.[/QUOTE]
Excellent post, this portion in particular. Absolutely accurate.
I have no idea what Fuller did or didn't do, .... .... .... .... For the sake of QZ let that be enough and just let it go. [/QUOTE]
Please take your own advice and give it a rest. How can anyone repeat that they know nothing about an issue but keep filling pages and pages of wild guesses, suggestions and fantasies? How does it make you feel accusing people about things you have zero knowledge of? Do you feel morally superior? You are not. You have turned from a nice screen person into a troll who has no life but keeps ranting about things you have no clue about and gets a sick pleasure out of other peoples' misfortune.
Just let it go and please spare me another rant because I won't answer you like I did not answer to this issue for the last five months.[/QUOTE]
hear hear!!! - thanks Barb
about f*cking time someone told this sanctimonious c*nt to shut the f*ck up with the cyber patrol....hasn't Gratefulfanny a schoolyard to be prefecting? because this place is sick of it
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You don't speak for "this place". GF contributes more here than you've ever done. Your contributions amount to little more than abuse and slabbering.[/QUOTE]
Can you find a post here where GratefullFan shows her(?) appreciation for the music or any Queen member over the years?
I don´t know who Gratefull Fan is, but there´s nothing gratefull on her posts. The last couple years her posts about Brian´s campaign about Badgers and concerning Live Aid where amongst the more violent i´ve even seen towards an artist by a "fan" with the sole purpose of denigrating Brian´s image on a public forum. Her atention to detail in dissecting every little piece of the events to find one minor contradiction only shows that she´s on a mission to destroy Brian´s character. I don´t know what´s gracefull about that, but i would expect that behaviour from "The News of the World", not here in Queenzone.
I´m not saying we have to agree with Brian´s views on those matters, because we don´t. Diversity is good to the world, just stating an example of the lengths that she goes just to prove that someone is wrong and she´s right!
To the point where i made the conscious choice of not arguing with GratefullFAn ever again. She has a lot to say but i´m not interest anymore. It´s not good for my well being to engage with discussions with people who´s only purpose isn´t to get clarification, but only to be... right!
So, if she wants to be right, then she´s right because i´m not arguing with her anymore.
And i believe that the same applies to you Holly2003.
Cheers. [/QUOTE]
I didn't know you existed until you made this post so not engaging with me "any more" is no great loss.
Holly2003 · Member since
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[b]The Real Wizard wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]Mr.QueenFan wrote:[/b]
I don´t know who Gratefull Fan is, but there´s nothing gratefull on her posts. The last couple years her posts about Brian´s campaign about Badgers and concerning Live Aid where amongst the more violent i´ve even seen towards an artist by a "fan" with the sole purpose of denigrating Brian´s image on a public forum. Her atention to detail in dissecting every little piece of the events to find one minor contradiction only shows that she´s on a mission to destroy Brian´s character. I don´t know what´s gracefull about that, but i would expect that behaviour from "The News of the World", not here in Queenzone.[/QUOTE]
Excellent post, this portion in particular. Absolutely accurate.
Glad to see rationality in abundance here again.[/QUOTE]
Complete balls. Usual character assassination from you.
