If I recall, I believe I did backtrack from that little attack on your condition (which by the way was made in the heat of the moment when my mind was not in the right place at the time owing to extreme stress). Pretty sure it was not made in the context you suggested however. Care to provide a link to the topic where this took place, or are you going to be a spineless bully as usual?
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I do not hate you, GFF, I do not even know you. I respond to a screen post and if I hated people on a forum I should not be here. The quotes you post above give me the creeps, to be honest. I do not really believe that you are sensitive to the feelings of other people on this forum, to me your post looks judgamental, condescending and uncaring. Perhaps you have wound up yourself too much in this whole issue and you cannot see other opinions anymore.
I do not want to corner you or bully you off this forum, that is not my intention. Why can't we just please drop this whole fight, shake hands and return to normal, I plead with you. This forum is my dearest hobby and I want to enjoy it, it should be fun and not heartache for anybody, you me, Richard, John Stuart or anybody else. Please consider it.
Edit: I take the advice and go to bed now :) I really hope we can break this cycle of abuse and counter abuse here and now.
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[QUOTE] [b]inu-liger wrote:[/b]
If I recall, I believe I did backtrack from that little attack on your condition (which by the way was made in the heat of the moment when my mind was not in the right place at the time owing to extreme stress). Pretty sure it was not made in the context you suggested however. Care to provide a link to the topic where this took place, or are you going to be a spineless bully as usual?[/QUOTE]
It may be surprising, but I think it could have to do with his expulsion from the core community. He knows he's on a permanent shit list with the collectors, he knows he's not welcome to participate here anymore, so how else is he going to get his kicks? Simple, selling rare stuff and once again pissing off the community and the collectors in the process, thus driving the wedge even further than it needed to be and screwing us over further back than you can say "stone age"
Not welcome to participate here anymore? He participates whenever he likes. What a strange statement. A bit like the recent intimation that he skulked off fom Fantholology like a thief in the night. If I recall, he was kicked out in a fit of pique and when the group calmed down and asked him back he couldn't be arsed with the drama and declined further participation. Not quite the same thing.
So for the sake of balance I'll just let everybody know that I've got the Easter Bunny tied up in my basement and as such if there is any chocolate or hair ribbons or toy cars and such at your house, David R. Fuller left that stuff there.
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GratefulFan wrote:As for for getting shut down, some Steve Erkel firing off rounds of emails may have gotten his Tumblr taken down.
a) That "some Steve Erkel" would be me, and I highly resent you making that offensive comparison. A public apology is in due order now.
b) Indeed his Tumblr page is now down
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In the same way that Fuller invites instinctive distaste by openly rejecting some group norms and pursuing an independent course that can be seen as disloyal or a betrayal, so too do people whose actions are at one level those of a snivelly, sulky, self righteous rat. The reality is that many don't really think much of rats either.
Needless to say, no apology will be forthcoming. But do have a Happy Easter inu, a first one I think with your new daughter. Enjoy the day.
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Please explain how reporting violations of copyright law to the appropriate copyright holders and protecting people from getting ripped off by unscrupulous individuals makes me a "rat"
I think you're quite fucked in the head, you judgmental little bitch. Making unrealistic comparisons like that...GO FUCK YOURSELF.
Maybe you should move to Alberta. You'd fit in just fine with all the other ignorant assholes I have to deal with here on a daily basis. Yup, all the nice little assholes that keep contributing to the depression which I don't speak about that in turn causes me to have suicidal thoughts, who nobody seems to care if I have them or not.
Oh and a happy easter to you too.
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John S Stuart wrote:This thread is about owning the LEGAL rights to freely distribute material that belongs to others - and to do so otherwise... is ILLEGAL and indefensable.
End of argument, full stop.
Best not to pursue further arguments with these juvenile, Urkel-comparing deviants who clearly haven't progressed beyond elementary levels of bullyish mentality. Same heartless individuals that don't give a shit about people afflicted with various mental health issues of serious proportion, typical.
Despite being bipolar, I did not attempt to bully GF with a veiled suicide threat.
Fairly big difference between bipolar disorder and depression, you utter fool.
And I was not bullying GF with a "veiled suicide threat." If you had a fucking clue how depression works (sadly many people with no experience dealing with depression don't), you'd sooner realize that I'm speaking an inconvenient truth rather than using it as a tool to bully someone; after all, any sensible normal person would feel guilty if they knew they were contributing to anybody's suicidal tendencies, considering certain stigmas attached to that.
I was extremely hesitant to even bring that up here for the longest time nevermind elsewhere, and I think I was right to have my doubts about posting it here. The disgraceful way you both keep attacking me even after the fact is disgusting.
Unfortunately, venomous people like you and GF seem to only care more about acquiring ammunition to attack people here for your own shameful purposes rather than taking into realistic account that there ARE human beings behind all these usernames in real life, and that words DO in fact hurt.
The fact that you two seem to maintain such "anonymous" personalities online as opposed to
my far more open profile is rather telling enough.
It's assholes like yourselves that really make it difficult for people to openly express themselves here. If I didn't bear an ongoing loyalty to the band I love whose music is one of the few things that truly keeps me motivated day to day, I would have fucked off elsewhere LONG ago as others have already done.
This board is such an absolute blackhole devoid of sensibility.
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Of all the pressures to shut down conversation on this topic, claiming your depression makes you too delicate to have your actions challenged on the internet seriously has to take the grand prize. Well done Richard. While I'll acknowledge that my second round of Urkel and the reference to prissy emailing was arguably a little gratuitous, the initial complaint that prompted the first outburst was not. Let's be clear. Nobody here is stealing your lunch money or shoving you into a locker because they don't like your face. You're not being bullied. The complaints are valid and relate to your rather consistently atrocious actions. From demonstrably false accusations against Fuller, to black holing posts that retroactively make you look bad and reveal your bias, to making a bunch of marginal statements about Fuller's status in the community like they're as reliable as sunrise, and finally to the spite motivated tattling, well, it's all a bit of a mess. That's the problem. And if you don't want to do the time, don't do the crime.
My 'Happy Easter' was a genuine attempt to separate the complaint about the behaviour from the value of the person. Not the clearest message when it's packaged with a 'rat' assertion I understand, but that was the intent. I have a great deal of sensitivity about hurting real people behind these computer screens and I've talked about it many times over the years here. I'm dealing with something I feel similarly about in another section of QZ so I can assure you I'm not disconnected from the principles. The difference is I don't expect to be immune from fair criticism of my words or my actions. While your feelings and your struggles with depression absolutely matter it's not reasonable to demand that your words and actions should be limited by nothing and mine limited by your state of mental health.
Finally, it's always a mistake to make assumptions about what direct or indirect experience anybody else has with depression or any other serious life challenge. I was shocked to see you minimize another poster's struggles with bipolar disorder, particularly given that it is a disorder of both deep depression and sometimes frightening mania. To be frank, taken together, your seeming expectation of immunity and your callousness towards a fellow poster also managing mental health challenges suggests a degree of disconnected self focus that is more than a little off putting.
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Inu whining about trolls instead of ignoring them ...
That particular poll took place way before the more recent events, and that poll had NOTHING to do with the DRF/FT controversy in the first place - moreso to do with the MEDUSA / Rocknrolllover bullshit going on at the time!
WHY you even try and drag it into the context of this conversation makes little sense, but then again trolls usually never follow logic anyways.
Thank you for reminding me about the poll though. I suppose now that YV's returned, she can have a look at that topic when she has time. It's been established one way or another that the majority of the forum's users DO want some moderation, the numbers don't lie:
Yes (44 votes) 74.6%
No (15 votes) 25.4%
Got that inu? First reference: "Some Urkel" You identify yourself and demand an apology.
Second "Urkel", previously aptly described by Panchgani as having nothing remotely to do with Asperger's, later acknowledged by me to be gratuitous.
That's not multiple times. It's twice. And the only outstanding apology on that thread is yours to Panchgani. You're a grown man and I'm not going to treat you like you're an incompetent person from whom nothing can be expected because you have Asperger's. Panchgani was bang on. You were manipulative on that thread. And whoever was responsible for whatever back chatter resulted in YV thinking I offended you over your Asperger's EVER is 2000% full of shit. If that was you, you're 2000% full of shit.
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Aha, I forgot GF wasn't the only one who joined in the Urkelfest!
Thanks for the link Panchi
[QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]
After all his whining about Canadian bullies and his depression, I hope that Urkel does not abandon his daughter in response to being called out for his "holier than thou" postering and snitch bullying of David Fuller.[/QUOTE]
^ http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1341788/selling-queen-demos.aspx?page=4
Perhaps this might have been the third instance I was thinking of, so I will admit I stand corrected in GF's case.
However, this still technically doesn't change the fact that there were three documented separate uses of "Urkel" used towards me, two of which took place after I acknowledged contacting QPL reps and had expressed objection towards the use of that word.
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[QUOTE] [b]inu-liger wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]
Inu whining about trolls instead of ignoring them ...
WHY you even try and drag it into the context of this conversation makes little sense[/QUOTE]
... Because it shows you in the context of being a sniveling busybody who thinks he owns QZ.
Real Wizard as moderator? You're kidding right?
QueenZone would be a much better place if YV handed the moderator reins to you and Bob, so that all dissent can be crushed out of the forum ... SARCASM
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[QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]
... Because it shows you in the context of being a sniveling busybody who thinks he owns QZ.
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Prove it.
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[QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]
QueenZone would be a much better place if YV handed the moderator reins to you and Bob, so that all dissent can be crushed out of the forum ... SARCASM
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Hahahahahah, that's so so funny. All the while considering I've already openly expressed that I have no interest in becoming a QZ moderator :-)
