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[QUOTE] [b]YourValentine wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]GratefulFan wrote:[/b]

"Scary to think that GratefulFan, if I am not mistaken, claimed to be a teacher. I'd hate to see her interactions with students who don't agree with her teaching views..."

Richard? I'm willing to deal with a measure of your weirdness: its got its charm and some of it is not your fault because of the Asperger's. But there are limits. Its completely socially fucked to pull something like that out of your ass to attack somebody based on their imaginary profession on a discussion board. It gets even more bizarre when you try and make it their fault. Three times. I'm not a teacher and I don't work in a school. OK?[/QUOTE]

Of course it is NOT socially fucked up to pull up Asperger's out of YOUR ass after Richard apologised half a dozen times for his mistake, you sorry, pathetic troll.

I apologise to everyone else for the language.[/QUOTE]

Oh FFS. I wasn't insulting him with Asperger's. There's nothing shameful about Asperger's. He talks about it often and I was acknowledging it, because, FFS, it has to be relevant in this case, right? And he wasn't really apologizing, was he. Go to bed. And when you get your rabid self up in the morning, think about getting off my ass.

And Richard, if there was anything hurtful about that, let me know. I will certainly apologize as that was NOT the intention.

[QUOTE] [b]GratefulFan wrote:[/b]

"Scary to think that GratefulFan, if I am not mistaken, claimed to be a teacher. I'd hate to see her interactions with students who don't agree with her teaching views..."

Richard? I'm willing to deal with a measure of your weirdness: its got its charm and some of it is not your fault because of the Asperger's. But there are limits. Its completely socially fucked to pull something like that out of your ass to attack somebody based on their imaginary profession on a discussion board. [/QUOTE]

OK, I honestly object to you even using that word "imaginary" in this context, especially considering I had as you can see in that quote implied that I could have been mistaken about your profession, and your use of that word implies that I deliberately made it up just to "attack" you with.

[QUOTE]It gets even more bizarre when you try and make it their fault. Three times. I'm not a teacher and I don't work in a school. OK?[/QUOTE]

Yes, OK ma'am.

[QUOTE] [b]GratefulFan wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]YourValentine wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]GratefulFan wrote:[/b]

"Scary to think that GratefulFan, if I am not mistaken, claimed to be a teacher. I'd hate to see her interactions with students who don't agree with her teaching views..."

Richard? I'm willing to deal with a measure of your weirdness: its got its charm and some of it is not your fault because of the Asperger's. But there are limits. Its completely socially fucked to pull something like that out of your ass to attack somebody based on their imaginary profession on a discussion board. It gets even more bizarre when you try and make it their fault. Three times. I'm not a teacher and I don't work in a school. OK?[/QUOTE]

Of course it is NOT socially fucked up to pull up Asperger's out of YOUR ass after Richard apologised half a dozen times for his mistake, you sorry, pathetic troll.

I apologise to everyone else for the language.[/QUOTE]

Oh FFS. I wasn't insulting him with Asperger's. There's nothing shameful about Asperger's.[/QUOTE]

Didn't stop you calling me "Urkel" a few times and refusing to apologize for that afterwards, however.

[QUOTE] [b]GratefulFan wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]YourValentine wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]GratefulFan wrote:[/b]

"Scary to think that GratefulFan, if I am not mistaken, claimed to be a teacher. I'd hate to see her interactions with students who don't agree with her teaching views..."

Richard? I'm willing to deal with a measure of your weirdness: its got its charm and some of it is not your fault because of the Asperger's. But there are limits. Its completely socially fucked to pull something like that out of your ass to attack somebody based on their imaginary profession on a discussion board. It gets even more bizarre when you try and make it their fault. Three times. I'm not a teacher and I don't work in a school. OK?[/QUOTE]

Of course it is NOT socially fucked up to pull up Asperger's out of YOUR ass after Richard apologised half a dozen times for his mistake, you sorry, pathetic troll.

I apologise to everyone else for the language.[/QUOTE]

Oh FFS. I wasn't insulting him with Asperger's. There's nothing shameful about Asperger's. He talks about it often and I was acknowledging it, because, FFS, it has to be relevant in this case, right? And he wasn't really apologizing, was he. Go to bed. And when you get your rabid self up in the morning, think about getting off my ass.

And Richard, if there was anything hurtful about that, let me know. I will certainly apologize as that was NOT the intention.[/QUOTE]

There is certainly nothing shameful about Aspergers - it is shameful that you sink so low to use it against a person in a discussion. Relevant in this "case"? I can't believe I ever had respect for you. And he did apologise about what was only a mix up of your presumed profession just on the previous page but apparently facts are not something you can accept.

[QUOTE] [b]YourValentine wrote:[/b] And he did apologise about what was only a mix up of your presumed profession just on the previous page but apparently facts are not something you can accept.[/QUOTE] I'd high five you Barb, but then I'd break my monitor.

Please guys, no more personal jibes. Me loves you all :)

[QUOTE] [b]Thistleboy1980 wrote:[/b]

Please guys, no more personal jibes. Me loves you all :)[/QUOTE]

Indeed. Can we all at least attempt to get back ON TOPIC, or are we going to have yet more latter-day Republican style methods continue to permeate this toxic wasteland?

Yes, let's steer this ship back on track.

Index, please? At least a teaser? :)

Thistleboy, I am really sorry about this fight - I always try hard to stay out of forum fights but in this case I am so angry about friends having their feelings hurt by someone who has apparently no other pleasure in life than to keep a topic alive in classic troll manner although she has no part in the whole story, no gain or loss and no knowledge about what actually happened. While I was away from this forum I heard that GFF offended Richard various times with regard to his Asperger condition and I simply cannot be quiet when I see such bullying. Richard has been on this forum since he was 14 and we all have seen him grow up and manage so well and I won't be just watching him being bullied, sorry.

Referring to Richard's last post and with the help of Mr. Google I found the following from April 1st (I had to google "Urkel"):

[QUOTE] [b]GratefulFan wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]John S Stuart wrote:[/b]

Elitism? Powerhouses? All bull-sh*t terms for those who will not get off their ars*s and expect the world to hand them everything freely on a plate. "For he who works hard - thus cometh his reward!"
(Does anyone else remember the Disney Cartoon "The World owes me a Living"?)
[/QUOTE]

Mmmm hmmm. The bottom line is that a bunch of jackals are falling on a private collector because on assessment and reflection and in noting that it's not 1972 anymore, that collector wants to essentially make some things available to the wider community. In the art world if somebody wants to donate something they have hanging on their wall to a museum, they just do it. If he's received something in a private trade it's reasonable to note that he can ultimately do whatever the hell he likes with it. You hate it when it's free and you hate it when it's not, and your scare tactics are the same in either case. I think last time it was boogeyman nightmare tales of the RIAA's imminent sweep up of David for the Taylor track. Truthfully it's either none of your business and irrelevant to you what risks David wants to take on in the copyright world, or in the general best interest to discourage Alberta Urkel from his prissy emailing. Beyond that the legal pontificating seems to serve little purpose.[/QUOTE]


I think a genuine apology would be very necessary. My personal, private opinion.

[QUOTE] [b]YourValentine wrote:[/b]

Thistleboy, I am really sorry about this fight[/QUOTE]

No need Barbara :)

I wasn't getting at you, GF, inu or anyone in particular: QZ as a group have been at each others' throats for a while now - and I've been no saint myself as far as Mr. Fuller is concerned - and all I would like is to see everyone getting on.

Yep, it's a big bad world and I need to accept that it's not always possible. Fights will happen - but these are all folk I have a great deal of respect for, and I don't want to see them tear each other apart, nor this community destroyed.

As I said, me loves you all :)

C'mon folks - there must be more to life than this lol

[QUOTE] [b]YourValentine wrote:[/b] I think a genuine apology would be very necessary. My personal, private opinion.[/QUOTE] Urkel had NOTHING to do with Richard's Aspergers because I used the name in reference to the actions BEFORE Richard identified himself as the person who had written! Don't let your extended absence get in the way of your hatred for me though Barb. This is what I wrote on that thread following that post when Richard said he felt bullied: Of all the pressures to shut down conversation on this topic, claiming your depression makes you too delicate to have your actions challenged on the internet seriously has to take the grand prize. Well done Richard. While I'll acknowledge that my second round of Urkel and the reference to prissy emailing was arguably a little gratuitous, the initial complaint that prompted the first outburst was not. Let's be clear. Nobody here is stealing your lunch money or shoving you into a locker because they don't like your face. You're not being bullied. The complaints are valid and relate to your rather consistently atrocious actions. From demonstrably false accusations against Fuller, to black holing posts that retroactively make you look bad and reveal your bias, to making a bunch of marginal statements about Fuller's status in the community like they're as reliable as sunrise, and finally to the spite motivated tattling, well, it's all a bit of a mess. That's the problem. And if you don't want to do the time, don't do the crime. My 'Happy Easter' was a genuine attempt to separate the complaint about the behaviour from the value of the person. Not the clearest message when it's packaged with a 'rat' assertion I understand, but that was the intent. I have a great deal of sensitivity about hurting real people behind these computer screens and I've talked about it many times over the years here. I'm dealing with something I feel similarly about in another section of QZ so I can assure you I'm not disconnected from the principles. The difference is I don't expect to be immune from fair criticism of my words or my actions. While your feelings and your struggles with depression absolutely matter it's not reasonable to demand that your words and actions should be limited by nothing and mine limited by your state of mental health. Finally, it's always a mistake to make assumptions about what direct or indirect experience anybody else has with depression or any other serious life challenge. I was shocked to see you minimize another poster's struggles with bipolar disorder, particularly given that it is a disorder of both deep depression and sometimes frightening mania. To be frank, taken together, your seeming expectation of immunity and your callousness towards a fellow poster also managing mental health challenges suggests a degree of disconnected self focus that is more than a little off putting.

[QUOTE] [b]GratefulFan wrote:[/b] [QUOTE] [b]YourValentine wrote:[/b] I think a genuine apology would be very necessary. My personal, private opinion.[/QUOTE] Urkel had NOTHING to do with Richard's Aspergers because I used the name in reference to the actions BEFORE Richard identified himself as the person who had written! [/QUOTE] BULL FUCKING SHIT, you are SUCH a LIAR!!! Do you HONESTLY think I'm that stupid???. As YV proved above with her quote, you used it even AFTER the fact multiple times to purposefully antagonize myself, and taking into account particularly that you REFUSED to apologize to me even after I gave you a basic explanation why it was offensive in the first place. You have lost ALL credibility at this point, I now agree with YV you ARE now a troll after all. You have sunk possibly even lower than MEDUSA or rocknrolllover at this point, and that's no easy feat! You are so fucking stupid. I've had it trying to reason with you for today. I think a temporary account suspension would be in good order since you are NOT getting the message, however that is MY opinion and not YV's, so whether she shares that opinion, that's up to her. Have a good night troll.

"Truthfully it's either none of your business and irrelevant to you what risks David wants to take on in the copyright world, or in the general best interest to discourage Alberta Urkel from his prissy emailing."

It is my interpretation that the above statement has nothing to do with Asperger's, but is rather about Inu's annoying and prissy e-mailing for ratting to QPL.

Go on, keep kissing the ringleader's ass. No I mean it, DO go on :-)

Inu does like to be a busybody and demand banning.

His insults about my bipolar disorder evolved because I complained to him about him constantly calling for banning several posters rather than ignore posters he considers suspect.