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Why the hate for Queen?

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In this forum there is a lot of people who only blame QP and Brian's greed, arguing they don't care for the fans at all.

Well, i'm not sure about it, the last collaborations aren't my cup of tea, but it's their life and they can do what they want, if you don't like it, don't hear it.

And about the life releases, Queen have released ''Seven'' live albums, far more than other bands from their time, even more than a lot of bands of this time. Even there are projects for the release of 70's gigs.

So what's wrong then? Maybe people just like to moan, but i just don't get it.
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[QUOTE] [b]Doga wrote:[/b]

In this forum there is a lot of people who only blame QP and Brian's greed, arguing they don't care for the fans at all.

Well, i'm not sure about it, the last collaborations aren't my cup of tea, but it's their life and they can do what they want, if you don't like it, don't hear it.

And about the life releases, Queen have released ''Seven'' live albums, far more than other bands from their time, even more than a lot of bands of this time. Even there are projects for the release of 70's gigs.

So what's wrong then? Maybe people just like to moan, but i just don't get it.

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They(QPL) do everything they can do!
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I'm not a huge moaner, but i understand the reason for the moaning is that if you exclude At The Beeb, which i kinda do, 'cos it's not really a true Queen gig, there's only been one album from the seventies, and zero DVDs. Also, the album that is from the seventies is a mish mash of different performances which have been dubbed and edited to death. So not really a true representation of the band at all.

Regarding the 5 other live albums, 3 of them are from the same tour. So really we only have 3 worthy live album releases (Montreal 81, Bowl 82 & either Wembley or Budapest 86).
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[QUOTE] [b]Doga wrote:[/b]In this forum there is a lot of people who only blame QP and Brian's greed, arguing they don't care for the fans at all.[/QUOTE]
well perhaps that's because they clearly don't care.

think about it - it's ok appealing to the masses - it's their legacy to destroy - so it's their right to sell-out...as often as they want.

but, AND it's a big but....fans are different to the general music-buyers. fans are their for the whole experience - and to keep those fans - you have to offer something new once in a while. - they don't really do that.

example: those 40 releases? why package a 2nd cd with each album - just to get the fans (mugs) to buy em again?
they coulda offered these extra tracks on three or four cds as separate purchases - for the fans - in a limited run.
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[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]Doga wrote:[/b]In this forum there is a lot of people who only blame QP and Brian's greed, arguing they don't care for the fans at all.[/QUOTE]
well perhaps that's because they clearly don't care.

think about it - it's ok appealing to the masses - it's their legacy to destroy - so it's their right to sell-out...as often as they want.

but, AND it's a big but....fans are different to the general music-buyers. fans are their for the whole experience - and to keep those fans - you have to offer something new once in a while. - they don't really do that.

example: those 40 releases? why package a 2nd cd with each album - just to get the fans (mugs) to buy em again?
they coulda offered these extra tracks on three or four cds as separate purchases - for the fans - in a limited run.

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"40 releases" if you don't like you could not buy QPL nothing to lose if she won't see your money.
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[QUOTE] [b]Doga wrote:[/b]

In this forum there is a lot of people who only blame QP and Brian's greed, arguing they don't care for the fans at all.

Well, i'm not sure about it, the last collaborations aren't my cup of tea, but it's their life and they can do what they want, if you don't like it, don't hear it.

And about the life releases, Queen have released ''Seven'' live albums, far more than other bands from their time, even more than a lot of bands of this time. Even there are projects for the release of 70's gigs.

So what's wrong then? Maybe people just like to moan, but i just don't get it.

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Some people seem to have this odd misconception that critisising a Queen release equates to dictating what QP can and cannot release.

Let's make this perfectly clear (again):

Queen Productions is free to release whatever they want, and any Queen fan (and any other person for that matter) is free to give their opinion about these releases whether they buy them or not.

When QP releases Greatest Hits 4 ("The WWRY Remixes"), the boycott of a thousand fans means absolutely nothing compared to the overall sales of hundred thousand copies.


What's "wrong" is that some people over here at QZ don't like the latest Queen releases, and are saying that out loud.
If you "don't like it", maybe you just "shouldn't hear it"?
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[QUOTE] [b]Doga wrote:[/b]

In this forum there is a lot of people who only blame QP and Brian's greed, arguing they don't care for the fans at all.

Well, i'm not sure about it, the last collaborations aren't my cup of tea, but it's their life and they can do what they want, if you don't like it, don't hear it.

And about the life releases, Queen have released ''Seven'' live albums, far more than other bands from their time, even more than a lot of bands of this time. Even there are projects for the release of 70's gigs.

So what's wrong then? Maybe people just like to moan, but i just don't get it.

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I don't moan. I'm actually quite satisfied with everything they've released recently. Of course, I would like to see more worthy releases but whatever they release is nice enough. I used to think the opposite, though.
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[QUOTE] [b]tero! 48531 wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]Doga wrote:[/b]

In this forum there is a lot of people who only blame QP and Brian's greed, arguing they don't care for the fans at all.

Well, i'm not sure about it, the last collaborations aren't my cup of tea, but it's their life and they can do what they want, if you don't like it, don't hear it.

And about the life releases, Queen have released ''Seven'' live albums, far more than other bands from their time, even more than a lot of bands of this time. Even there are projects for the release of 70's gigs.

So what's wrong then? Maybe people just like to moan, but i just don't get it.

[/QUOTE]

Some people seem to have this odd misconception that critisising a Queen release equates to dictating what QP can and cannot release.

Let's make this perfectly clear (again):

Queen Productions is free to release whatever they want, and any Queen fan (and any other person for that matter) is free to give their opinion about these releases whether they buy them or not.

When QP releases Greatest Hits 4 ("The WWRY Remixes"), the boycott of a thousand fans means absolutely nothing compared to the overall sales of hundred thousand copies.


What's "wrong" is that some people over here at QZ don't like the latest Queen releases, and are saying that out loud.
If you "don't like it", maybe you just "shouldn't hear it"?[/QUOTE]

You know queenzoner's people just get satisfied if they moan no matter what QPL does. If will be released FM+ MJ tracks, and ballad compilation their moans will become more and more.
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Moanzone...
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[QUOTE] [b]rocknrolllover wrote:[/b]"40 releases" if you don't like you could not buy QPL nothing to lose if she won't see your money.[/QUOTE]

the "40 releases" i refer to were the re-releases of the whole catalogue to celebrate queen's 40 yrs

out of interest - what bizarre online translator are you using?

one more point for those who say you shouldn't criticize releases...
would YOU buy a car if the new model was identical in every manner to five previous models they'd produced? - one of which you already own

would you by a book by an author that was just the same book repackaged five times? - again one of which you already have

if you answer YES to these and it doesn't even question you to criticize the "reissues" then you have a far greater cash than you will ever have sense..and you deserve every rip-off you succumb to
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[QUOTE] [b]Doga wrote:[/b]

it's their life and they can do what they want, if you don't like it, don't hear it.

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It's also their life (of people who want to moan) and they can do what they want, if you don't like it, don't read it.
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"it's their life and they can do what they want, if you don't like it, don't hear it"

I've fucking had it with this attitude. People have to hear something before they decide if they like it or not. And expressing a positive reaction is just as legitimate as a negative one - just as constructive too, if you take the time to outline what it is that displeases you, and what a better alternative might be.

Quite honestly, if I had the money, I'd rent a gang of bikies, and go around to people who say 'don't like it? don't listen to it!' - hold their jaws open for a while so I can work up a big, acidic vomit and just PURGE MYSELF - and all of the misery you've filled me with over the years - just get it all out, right down your gullets.

For fucks sake. Brian May collaborated with Dappy. That's supposed to be okay? Really? Has your sphincter of 'artistic' tolerance been repeatedly ass-fucked to such a diameter that something like this just slips by? Just ... sloshes out like last night's curry, completely unnoticed?

And setting all of that aside for a moment, no one is really disadvantaged in this equation. QPL can chuckle over their bank balance, and I can sit here and tell you all what you know already. Everyone wins, except for those of us who are ready, willing and able to fork out money for a good musical product - if only they'd fucking release one.
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[QUOTE] [b]rocknrolllover wrote:[/b]

They(QPL) do everything they can do![/QUOTE]

To make money
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[QUOTE] [b]Zebonka12 wrote:[/b]

"it's their life and they can do what they want, if you don't like it, don't hear it"

I've fucking had it with this attitude. People have to hear something before they decide if they like it or not. And expressing a positive reaction is just as legitimate as a negative one - just as constructive too, if you take the time to outline what it is that displeases you, and what a better alternative might be.

Quite honestly, if I had the money, I'd rent a gang of bikies, and go around to people who say 'don't like it? don't listen to it!' - hold their jaws open for a while so I can work up a big, acidic vomit and just PURGE MYSELF - and all of the misery you've filled me with over the years - just get it all out, right down your gullets.

For fucks sake. Brian May collaborated with Dappy. That's supposed to be okay? Really? Has your sphincter of 'artistic' tolerance been repeatedly ass-fucked to such a diameter that something like this just slips by? Just ... sloshes out like last night's curry, completely unnoticed?

And setting all of that aside for a moment, no one is really disadvantaged in this equation. QPL can chuckle over their bank balance, and I can sit here and tell you all what you know already. Everyone wins, except for those of us who are ready, willing and able to fork out money for a good musical product - if only they'd fucking release one.

Funny as fuck! but ya make a good point :)
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