Just for the record...The Lot

PEG wrote:

So, GT has admitted not proof reading it. But it remains ambiguous... Is he saying that somebody else was SUPPOSED to, but didn't, or is he admitting, "yes, I messed up, because I didn't proof-read it"?

Oh, and hello Victor :) Yes, Queen is my fav' band, and RT is a hero to me. Been following them for donkey's years.

Funny story: Just when I reached the stage of becoming a real fan (exploring beyond the greatest hits, etc), I started going out with a lovely girl, who took me home to meet her Mother. Her Mum asked me what my fav' band was, and when I told her, she said "follow me", and took me into another room where she opened a huge cabinet which was FULL of Queen stuff. There and then, she gave me a duplicate of RT's Foreign Sand CD single, and Blue Rock on cassette. I never thought it possible to love a Mother and a Daughter in equal measure, but it is :D

Greatest QZ post EVER!

Worthy of an "Ehhh!" From 'the Fonz'

Even better than the time someone called "Micrówave" a cunt.

Kudos. That is a beautiful story

Wijnand wrote:
As a collector, this means that in due course I will have two different RT 'The Lot's (that's a lot!) in my collection...

QPL like it when you buy things twice.

GT wrote:

Absolutely VK.
In the meantime play the CD's in the box, including the superb new album, and listen to these wonderful musical gems from 1977 to the present day and everything in between and just enjoy the music. That's what I'm doing right now.

Cheers Gary - your input and response IS appreciated by most; an open dialogue between the fans and 'the band' can only be a good thing, with positive and negative (but constructive) comments flowing both ways surely only leading to better product releases?

Outside of, but related to, the box set, are you able to advise who we might possibly contact regarding the factual errors and grammatical mistakes on Roger's new website? It would be good if we can get confirmation that these have been pointed out and are being addressed too?

I know that my following suggestion will never happen, but I've always been an advocate of having a select group (outside QPL and its employees) being given products to review, proof read, listen to etc.. in advance of release. I genuinely believe that a carefully selected group consisting of fans with expertise or knowledge in the key areas (some musicians, some graphic designers, some proof readers, some film makers etc..etc..) would mitigate against a lot of the issues we have experienced with multiple Queen releases across all formats.

Whilst plenty will disagree with me, I honestly believe that a hardcore fan that is also a musician and is familiar with the catalogue WILL more easily pick up certain differences in mixes, missing parts etc.. than a hardcore fan with no musical background (cue agreement from some, and outrage from others!!)

'Focus groups' such as I suggest above happen in many other areas - from new toys being tested on children and parents, movies given pre-release showings to select audience groups to gauge reactions (following which endings are changed and scenes recut before release), advertisments tested on target audiences, food given trials runs or distributed as freebies on launch etc.... I really don't see why a band (not just Queen) can't or won't employ similarly accepted tactics to ensure that the content of their product is firstly 'right' for the targeted demographic, and secondly actually put together properly with no mistakes.

My suggestions above (other than the website question)aren't aimed at you Gary, but aired as a general conversation/debate piece.

Thanks

It has Roger Taylor's name on it - perhaps he himself should check releases prior to release? Not such an "out there" suggestion - artists usually approve mixes/masters etc themselves. I think most artists releasing a career spanning boxset would read all the liner notes themselves to correct any errors too - you know, to make sure it's right!

PEG wrote:

So, GT has admitted not proof reading it. But it remains ambiguous... Is he saying that somebody else was SUPPOSED to, but didn't, or is he admitting, "yes, I messed up, because I didn't proof-read it"?

It really wasn't ambiguous at all, unless you think he was also being ambiguous about whether or not he was supposed to design the book, finalise the tracklisting and assemble the DVD as well.

It's patently obvious he meant proof reading it was not his job, which follows perfectly well when you consider that he wrote the sleeve notes, and writers don't proof read their own work.

Ok, looking back, I see what you mean about the ambiguity. Yes you are right.

On your last point though, some writers do proof read their own work. I know this because I work with writers for a living every day. That's not me being funny, it's simply how some smaller teams operate.

I do agree with you on your main point though :)

cmsdrums: Not only have you hit the nail on the head, you have smashed it hard into the woodwork with a deafening "YEEAAAH!"

If you get a focus group's input on a project, you are a long way towards a fantastic product immediately.

If we ever get the pleasure of a Queen Anthology, it might be the way to go. And I reckon, with the kingdom united, it would be awesome.

The Freddie box set is the benchmark by which subsequent sets have been, and will continue to be judged by.

That was compiled by GB was it not? That was the best thing I have ever bought in my life :D

brians wig wrote:

Really Word???
I suspect a flood of copies will hit ebay as soon as a corrected pressing becomes available as people rush to get rid of the dodgy ones so they can afford to buy the corrected ones!
Don't worry. You can have my boxset in all it's dodgy glory if you get me a corrected one... :)

Why would people be selling the old sets? Do you REALLY think the record label will expect people to buy the same box set TWICE? No. The most likely outcome is that replacement discs for the affected CDs will be offered to those who bought the box.

Michael Allred wrote:

brians wig wrote:

Really Word???
I suspect a flood of copies will hit ebay as soon as a corrected pressing becomes available as people rush to get rid of the dodgy ones so they can afford to buy the corrected ones!
Don't worry. You can have my boxset in all it's dodgy glory if you get me a corrected one... :)

Why would people be selling the old sets? Do you REALLY think the record label will expect people to buy the same box set TWICE? No. The most likely outcome is that replacement discs for the affected CDs will be offered to those who bought the box.

The record label will say that the product is exactly as Roger Taylor wanted, and will offer no further replacements.

Roger Taylor will say that these are minor issues that do not detract from the product which everybody loves anyway.

There isn't going to be a corrected reprint either, and as long as we have 13 different discs in our lot, we won't be getting anything more from anybody.

Sooo does anyone want to bash me for inquiring as whether or not the songs are "digitally remastered from the original master source tapes" again? I've been told it is absurd to ask such a thing because it is "so obvious" that that would be either a given or that it did not really matter. Does the box set say that the songs were?

Victor Kruger wrote:

Wijnand wrote:
As a collector, this means that in due course I will have two different RT 'The Lot's (that's a lot!) in my collection...

QPL like it when you buy things twice.

So, that´s why they have released Wembley 86 so many times?

Well. Amazon are apparently sending my copy next week. I am fully expecting a faulty copy and if I do, if anyone wants that set let me know....my cost price was £86

Peg,

Did you fuck both of them?

Bigger kudos if you did.

MERQRY wrote:

Victor Kruger wrote:

Wijnand wrote:
As a collector, this means that in due course I will have two different RT 'The Lot's (that's a lot!) in my collection...

QPL like it when you buy things twice.

So, that´s why they have released Wembley 86 so many times?

Sorry, I am a good customer for QPL. I've got all cd's 3-6 times on cd... And serveral times on vinyl.... etc...
Damn, I guess they'll like me hahaha *kidding*

I think GT and GB definately deserve major kudos for their time and effort that they do with each of the projects they're involved in. Here's something to think about...if not for them, there's a good possibility that BM and RT would NOT be working in the studio with leftover vocals from Freddie...tapes that they plain out and out forgot about. As I live in the US, I don't even know if The Lot is available in one form or another either for download or for physical purchase, but once the errors and such have been corrected, I will be making my purchase for sure!