Are we to believe that the 91 Made in Heaven sessions only produced one full song ?
You think freddie could have sung on atleast 5 songs in that timeframe.
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Sebastian
[QUOTE] [b]Biggest Band On The Planet wrote:[/b]
Are we to believe that the 91 Made in Heaven sessions only produced one full song ?
You think freddie could have sung on atleast 5 songs in that timeframe.[/QUOTE]
He did sing on three. Keep in mind that he didn't know he was gonna last until almost the end of the year. His time-frame might have been like:
January: 'It's a miracle (no pun intended) I actually made it this far. Let's record some songs!'
February - April: 'I'm not feeling well. I think this is it. I'll just spend some time in London with my beloved ones.'
May: 'Wow... I'm still here. I might as well finish up "A Winter's Tale" and perhaps work a bit with Maggie... [a few days later] ... I'm not feeling well, I'll just fly back. Should I have time to finish "Mother Love", I will; otherwise, Maggie can sing the last verse.'
June - September: 'I'm not feeling well. I think this is it. I'll just spend some time in London with my beloved ones.'
October: 'Woah... I could've recorded some more, but what did I know? Anyway, too late. I think this is really it, so I'll just spend time with my beloved ones. Moreover, the disease that's ultimately gonna kill me is respiratory, which most likely means it's really difficult for me to sing, let alone go outside my house (or the country) with an increasingly cold weather.'
November (quoting Fatty): 'Was it all worth it? You'd better fucking believe!'
Are we to believe that the 91 Made in Heaven sessions only produced one full song ?
You think freddie could have sung on atleast 5 songs in that timeframe.[/QUOTE]
He did sing on three. Keep in mind that he didn't know he was gonna last until almost the end of the year. His time-frame might have been like:
January: 'It's a miracle (no pun intended) I actually made it this far. Let's record some songs!'
February - April: 'I'm not feeling well. I think this is it. I'll just spend some time in London with my beloved ones.'
May: 'Wow... I'm still here. I might as well finish up "A Winter's Tale" and perhaps work a bit with Maggie... [a few days later] ... I'm not feeling well, I'll just fly back. Should I have time to finish "Mother Love", I will; otherwise, Maggie can sing the last verse.'
June - September: 'I'm not feeling well. I think this is it. I'll just spend some time in London with my beloved ones.'
October: 'Woah... I could've recorded some more, but what did I know? Anyway, too late. I think this is really it, so I'll just spend time with my beloved ones. Moreover, the disease that's ultimately gonna kill me is respiratory, which most likely means it's really difficult for me to sing, let alone go outside my house (or the country) with an increasingly cold weather.'
November (quoting Fatty): 'Was it all worth it? You'd better fucking believe!'
Biggus Dickus
I remember reading Freddie was in Montreux only few weeks before his death. So it seems he was well enough to travel but not well enough to sing.
Supersonic_Man89
I think the vocals on both Winters Tale and Mother's Love would take a lot out of any normal person who isn't in the late stages of AIDs, nevermind somebody who is. And i think on Winters Tale at least, you can hear the strain...'Gentle rain beating on my face' 'A kind of magic in the air'...you can hear the voice slightly unable to keep up with what Freddie expects from himself. I think maybe another reason apart from health wise...was that Freddie possibly couldn't hit the notes he was used to hitting and decided to not give anything less than perfection. This would go hand in hand with his theory of not touring post-86 for the same fear.
Biggest Band On The Planet
I wish they would release the outtakes of the Made in Heaven sessions.
musicland munich
@Sebastian
As far as I know,aside of how his mood or condition was, he had to return to London for periodically treatments.
His last visit to Montreux October / early November , well that was claimed by Jim a Phoebe. Is there an incontrovertible evidence that this timeframe is true ?
As far as I know,aside of how his mood or condition was, he had to return to London for periodically treatments.
His last visit to Montreux October / early November , well that was claimed by Jim a Phoebe. Is there an incontrovertible evidence that this timeframe is true ?
Sebastian
[QUOTE] [b]musicland munich wrote:[/b]
Is there an incontrovertible evidence...?[/QUOTE]
The answer for that will always be a resounding 'never.' Even a direct quote from people who were there can be wrong (remember all the mistakes Brian's made about his own band?).
We can always adjust our conclusions based on evidence. That's what scientific research is about.
There's strong evidence that Freddie *travelled* to Switzerland after May 1991; there's nothing to realistically suggest he *recorded* anything after May 1991.
Is there an incontrovertible evidence...?[/QUOTE]
The answer for that will always be a resounding 'never.' Even a direct quote from people who were there can be wrong (remember all the mistakes Brian's made about his own band?).
We can always adjust our conclusions based on evidence. That's what scientific research is about.
There's strong evidence that Freddie *travelled* to Switzerland after May 1991; there's nothing to realistically suggest he *recorded* anything after May 1991.
musicland munich
I`am afraid that I may sound like I ´am experienced with Stalking on other people :)
But is or was there nothing that you may can call an circumstantial evidence ?
Like a stamp in his passport, private letters...maybe dated and with a Place of dispatch ? Credit card bills ? All kind of communication bills telephone or fax.
Private Jet or rental cars...whatever. Actually there must be a lot of traces...just a thought experiment.
But is or was there nothing that you may can call an circumstantial evidence ?
Like a stamp in his passport, private letters...maybe dated and with a Place of dispatch ? Credit card bills ? All kind of communication bills telephone or fax.
Private Jet or rental cars...whatever. Actually there must be a lot of traces...just a thought experiment.
Martin Packer
I DON'T want to hear outtakes. I want them putting their best foot forward in 1991. And that fake "death rattle" MP3 that came out a while back only reinforces my view on this.
Togg
Amazing work Seb, not read this before, excellent post
Sebastian
[QUOTE] [b]musicland munich wrote:[/b]
I`am afraid that I may sound like I ´am experienced with Stalking on other people :)
But is or was there nothing that you may can call an circumstantial evidence ?
Like a stamp in his passport, private letters...maybe dated and with a Place of dispatch ? Credit card bills ? All kind of communication bills telephone or fax.
Private Jet or rental cars...whatever. Actually there must be a lot of traces...just a thought experiment.
[/QUOTE]
Yes, but unless (until?) any of those documents ever see the light of day, publicly, we're gonna have to make do with what we've got available, which consists of:
* The assistant engineer having visited QZ and cleared up the exact dates of Freddie's last studio activities.
* Some (largely fabricated or at the very least exaggerated) promotional info given twenty years ago when the album was released.
* Wishful thinking.
I`am afraid that I may sound like I ´am experienced with Stalking on other people :)
But is or was there nothing that you may can call an circumstantial evidence ?
Like a stamp in his passport, private letters...maybe dated and with a Place of dispatch ? Credit card bills ? All kind of communication bills telephone or fax.
Private Jet or rental cars...whatever. Actually there must be a lot of traces...just a thought experiment.
[/QUOTE]
Yes, but unless (until?) any of those documents ever see the light of day, publicly, we're gonna have to make do with what we've got available, which consists of:
* The assistant engineer having visited QZ and cleared up the exact dates of Freddie's last studio activities.
* Some (largely fabricated or at the very least exaggerated) promotional info given twenty years ago when the album was released.
* Wishful thinking.
Sebastian
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BETA215
[QUOTE]
[b]Martin Packer wrote: [/b] [/QUOTE] [QUOTE] [/QUOTE] [QUOTE] ... And that fake "death rattle" MP3 that came out a while back only reinforces my view on this.[/QUOTE]
Which "death rattle" MP3?
[b]Martin Packer wrote: [/b] [/QUOTE] [QUOTE] [/QUOTE] [QUOTE] ... And that fake "death rattle" MP3 that came out a while back only reinforces my view on this.[/QUOTE]
Which "death rattle" MP3?
Estranged
Very informative post Sebastian! As always :-)
August R.
Interesting discussion! It's great we have these queenologists on board who have the time and energy to dig up all this fascinationg information!!
Anyway, one song that has puzzled me in respect of songwriting and timieline is Let Me Live. Is there any more evidence on the developement of that particular song?
So, we know that it was started in The Works sessions (not during DATR sessions as some claim). But how much was written/recorded back then? Has anyone heard more of it than those few seconds on that documentary few years back? Did that 1983 session produce all the Freddie's bits that were later used to create the song, or was the song revisited later by Freddie? What I mean to say is, was it a complete song in 1983, or just an idea that the band turned into a song later during MIH sessions.
I think it's safe to assume that Bri & Rog sang their parts during MIH session, but were those lyrics also written during these sessions (I seem to recall there is a handwritten lyrics sheet of this one(?), from what period that comes from)? For me, the song sounds like a lot of it was created/structured during the MIH sessions. But of course it is possible that thay actually had the full song, but lots of Freddie's vocals were unusable, so thay turned it into a "threesome" and that's why it sounds like a lot of it was created after Freddie's passing.
Anyway, one song that has puzzled me in respect of songwriting and timieline is Let Me Live. Is there any more evidence on the developement of that particular song?
So, we know that it was started in The Works sessions (not during DATR sessions as some claim). But how much was written/recorded back then? Has anyone heard more of it than those few seconds on that documentary few years back? Did that 1983 session produce all the Freddie's bits that were later used to create the song, or was the song revisited later by Freddie? What I mean to say is, was it a complete song in 1983, or just an idea that the band turned into a song later during MIH sessions.
I think it's safe to assume that Bri & Rog sang their parts during MIH session, but were those lyrics also written during these sessions (I seem to recall there is a handwritten lyrics sheet of this one(?), from what period that comes from)? For me, the song sounds like a lot of it was created/structured during the MIH sessions. But of course it is possible that thay actually had the full song, but lots of Freddie's vocals were unusable, so thay turned it into a "threesome" and that's why it sounds like a lot of it was created after Freddie's passing.