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[b]Queenfansunite wrote: [/b] ...Maybe you think I am the exception to the rule then, but I have seen others banned unjustly, but one thing is certain, I know the bullies are never banned....
[b]taptap wrote:[/b] I haven't been here very long, which probably explains why I haven't become aware of any bannings. I did see Barb's post about their policy of letting the forum self-regulate except in the worst-case example, and that was in response to an old-timer trying to get new-comers banned. She declined, and I thought she made the right call. I'm very sorry to hear you got caught up in such a thing.[/QUOTE]
You're making it sound as if I'm against ALL newcomers.
No, I suggested a ban because of all the AL spam* that you and Carol were producing from the get go as soon as you arrived on QZ. There has been previous precedent for removing users for that type of behaviour (joining QZ with the intent to ban), however in this case Barb disagreed and consulted with Richard to repurpose this subforum for you guys. Contrary to what MEDUSA thinks, the "old timers" here don't have THAT much pull as you yourselves noted the admins have a very easygoing handsfree "moderation" policy on here.
*Speaking of spam, MEDUSA you were banned here and on QOL because of your excessive spamming involving the blog you created in response to the Freddie biopic production, as well as your YouTube videos and the duplicate topics centered on your hate-filled campaign to get Sacha Baron Cohen removed from the movie in favour of some no name actor that none of us ever heard about. Several people other than myself complained to Barb about you, since you refused to cut down on the excess spam. And you were banned again for ban evading, when you rejoined to try and pull the same shit again.
To be honest, this topic has the most surprising amount of postings I have ever seen from you that do not selfishly revolve around your blog.
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[b]inu-liger wrote: [/b] You're making it sound as if I'm against ALL newcomers.
No, I suggested a ban because of all the AL spam* that you and Carol were producing from the get go as soon as you arrived on QZ. There has been previous precedent for removing users for that type of behaviour (joining QZ with the intent to ban), however in this case Barb disagreed and consulted with Richard to repurpose this subforum for you guys. Contrary to what MEDUSA thinks, the "old timers" here don't have THAT much pull as you yourselves noted the admins have a very easygoing handsfree "moderation" policy on here.
*Speaking of spam, MEDUSA you were banned here and on QOL because of your excessive spamming involving the blog you created in response to the Freddie biopic production, as well as your YouTube videos and the duplicate topics centered on your hate-filled campaign to get Sacha Baron Cohen removed from the movie in favour of some no name actor that none of us ever heard about. Several people other than myself complained to Barb about you, since you refused to cut down on the excess spam. And you were banned again for ban evading, when you rejoined to try and pull the same shit again.
To be honest, this topic has the most surprising amount of postings I have ever seen from you that do not selfishly revolve around your blog.[/QUOTE]
I really don't understand why the mods care about a bunch of posts about Adam Lambert when he's collaborating with Queen. Is there a post limit in effect? I get why members who are opposed to AL or Q+ don't like it, but so what? It's not spam when it's on topic, it's just a lot of posts. And believe it or not, most forum admins prefer a lot of posts to a few - it's a sign of a growing as opposed to a stagnant or shrinking forum. I do think it's spamming when the posts have nothing to do with either Queen or their collaborators. These are icy's posts. They have nothing to do with either Queen or QAL or even music in general, but are simply attacks on SC personally and about their personal interactions here and elsewhere. Now that's the very definition of spam; it has nothing to do with the topic and is solely about the poster(s). I can scroll over posts that hate AL's talent, or just his involvement with 1/2 Queen, but why should I have to scroll over a bunch of nonsense from icy about icy in a forum about QAL? She is not a celebrity, nor is she the topic of any sub-forum here. It's ridiculous.
[QUOTE] [b]inu-liger wrote:[/b]
You're making it sound as if I'm against ALL newcomers.
No, I suggested a ban because of all the AL spam* that you and Carol were producing from the get go as soon as you arrived on QZ. There has been previous precedent for removing users for that type of behaviour (joining QZ with the intent to ban), however in this case Barb disagreed and consulted with Richard to repurpose this subforum for you guys. Contrary to what MEDUSA thinks, the "old timers" here don't have THAT much pull as you yourselves noted the admins have a very easygoing handsfree "moderation" policy on here.
*Speaking of spam, MEDUSA you were banned here and on QOL because of your excessive spamming involving the blog you created in response to the Freddie biopic production, as well as your YouTube videos and the duplicate topics centered on your hate-filled campaign to get Sacha Baron Cohen removed from the movie in favour of some no name actor that none of us ever heard about. Several people other than myself complained to Barb about you, since you refused to cut down on the excess spam. And you were banned again for ban evading, when you rejoined to try and pull the same shit again.
To be honest, this topic has the most surprising amount of postings I have ever seen from you that do not selfishly revolve around your blog.[/QUOTE]
My posts on the biopic should have been allowed.
The hate replies from you and the gang is what was wrong.
I did not spam the forum, I was posting on a subject that was relevant the Freddie Mercury biopic which is a Upcoming Queen project, should I not be allowed my opinion , I mean I def had one, and it was not a trivial pedestrian opinion , just like Adam lambert enthusiasts, it was and is a very detailed opinion backed up by years of dedication.
And while it is true that I had a lot to show on the topic, it was like that because I had I dedicated myself to the biopic.
There was no justifiable reason for banning me , but there was very valid reasons for those attacking me to be banned, as they chose to personally attack me and single my posts out with a campaign of bullying harassment.
I was disavowed my right to free speech on the subject matter I chose to be interested in, and was blacklisted by you and your gang of bullies.
The same attack is now under way against sweet Caroline and tap tap, who while not about to banned as that would be too obvious, are still suffering the attacks of both icy and you inuliger. why do you not just let them get on with posting what they wish on the subject of Adam lambert , what exactly is the problem with them or anyone voicing their opinions and posting their links to the subject they are interested in?
I just do not understand why you do this attack on people, there is no justifiable reason I can see for this .
Why not just live and let live, and let them get on with it, as you should have done with me also, and anyone else who wishes to post their interests related to Queen projects .
My posts comprised of my interest in the biopic and things I had done for it , such as the cast and videos showing how good they look etc, but yours and most of the regular gangs posts are ridicule and bullying of other people whatever the subject matter.
I do not like people who's main aim in life seems to be a need to control others and bully them, you can come out with all sorts of accusations against others, to me you say my posts were spam,
I do not see all the work I did making my videos as spam, they took me ages to do, as did my blog.
You just like to insult me it seems by calling my stuff spam.
but I have seen your bullying of others and myself inuliger, and you spam your bullying as that is all you seem to do, when you have people in here who are not part of your group,
yes you spam your bullying then and attack in a spam of hatred.
So don't give me that, why don't you be reasonable and live and let live?
Then if we could debate properly i could debate you wether or not a newcomer a unknown face would be better to portray Freddie than anyone known.
My constant arguments against Sacha were not a hate campaign, they were a creative attack done in good humour, but making a serious point, which in the end Queen themselves agreed with.
And as I have posted on my blog, I would like to see Sacha play the retired section Freddie, based upon my idea of how to best format the storyline.
I want the film to be in 3 parts, and the retired section would be a axis pin, to tell Freddie's story in a novel and interesting way, and add an creative element to keep the movie full of things to look forward to instead of only looking back
as bio stories can be rather stale and difficult to make original in the way the story unfolds, most options have been used and my idea of how to lay out the story was far more interesting than just chronological or the one moment in time format they appear to be going for with a reflection back aspect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMVouzWuJ_Q
Let me live original banned version
Dedicated to all victims of bullying on Queen forums
(This includes inuliger if ever he was bullied/ and even icy / lets all unite and live! )
[QUOTE] [b]Queenfansunite wrote:[/b]
For instance, in liger what he did was covered up yet again! Even by queen fan who edited his capture of what he said
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You´re wrong! I didn´t edit my capture of Inu-Liger´s post to cover up what was said. I did it, because both he and i agreed on it.
I saw a genuine response from him about the anxiety and other factors - that are well known to members in general - and that was enough for me!
This forum is not moderated, so i really appreciated that Inu offered his explanation about what was happening.
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Now you Queenfansunite, i´m very surprised to see you are Medusa. I would have never guessed!
If you start writing more posts like you did here, people reaction to you will be very different from the past.
[QUOTE] [b]Mr.QueenFan wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Queenfansunite wrote:[/b]
For instance, in liger what he did was covered up yet again! Even by queen fan who edited his capture of what he said
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You´re wrong! I didn´t edit my capture of Inu-Liger´s post to cover up what was said. I did it, because both he and i agreed on it.
I saw a genuine response from him about the anxiety and other factors - that are well known to members in general - and that was enough for me!
This forum is not moderated, so i really appreciated that Inu offered his explanation about what was happening.
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Now you Queenfansunite, i´m very surprised to see you are Medusa. I would have never guessed!
If you start writing more posts like you did here, people reaction to you will be very different from the past.
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That just goes to show we should be more tolerant of people, people come here knowing no one
And come here because they are enthused with things to do with Queen,
Queen are the reason people come here, I came posting on my pet subject to do with Queen and received a response I did not in a million years expect. Total hatred and opposition.
I think its time everyone just tried to get on with each other and make some positive effort to not attack anyone.and allow people creativity even, I don't take offence at anyone posting what they want, other than attacking others.
[QUOTE] [b]Queenfansunite wrote:[/b]
My posts on the biopic should have been allowed. [/QUOTE]
If you had followed proper forum etiquette in the first place and kept your topics to a minimum rather than creating multiple topics that were essentially all the same topic anyway, they would have stayed put since.
[QUOTE]The hate replies from you and the gang is what was wrong.
I did not spam the forum I was posting on a subject that was relevant the Freddie Mercury biopic which is a Upcoming Queen project [/QUOTE]
OH yes you did man, yes you did big time! I'm not the only one who saw the spam for what it was, I'm sure there are others who remember your posts quite well.
Whether the original content you wrote was technically spam or not in itself is irrelevant when put to scale against the method you were using to put your content front and center. Again, the multiple topic problem you created yourself.
People asked you on both Queenzone and QueenOnline to cut it out many times, you did not do so, and so the mods on both sites (who by the way, we don't share any mods in common with QOL, in case you were going to dare try and push your little group bully conspiracy theory further!) had to intervene and cut you off by the only true effective method which was banning after you ignored the warnings from the higher ups.
I don't think I had so much to do with your QOL ban. If I have as much pull here as you'd like to believe, trust me when I say this, I have very little pull when it comes to the mods on QOL in comparison. They are a tough cookie bunch.
[QUOTE]should I not be allowed my opinion , I mean I def had one, and it was not a trivial pedestrian opinion , just like Adam lambert enthusiasts, it was and is a very detailed opinion backed up by years of dedication. [/QUOTE]
Certainly everyone has an opinion, but that's not the issue here. Again, the problem was the WAY you were going about expressing your opinion. It was inappropriately obnoxious, it was hijacking the board and making redundant use of bandwidth, and you were pissing off a lot of people in the process.
[QUOTE]And while it is true that I had a lot to show on the topic, it was like that because I had I dedicated myself to the biopic. [/QUOTE]
Which again led to what the rest of us perceived to be obnoxious spammy behaviour.
[QUOTE]There was no justifiable reason for banning me , but there was very valid reasons for those attacking me to be banned, as they chose to personally attack me and single my posts out with a campaign of bullying harassment.
I was disavowed my right to free speech on the subject matter I chose to be interested in, and was blacklisted by you and your gang of bullies. [/QUOTE]
Nice victim card moment there. I disagree with the use of your term "Blacklisted"
[QUOTE]The same attack is now under way against sweet Caroline and tap tap, who while not about to banned as that would be too obvious, are still suffering the attacks of both icy and you inuliger. why do you not just let them get on with posting what they wish on the subject of Adam lambert , what exactly is the problem with them or anyone voicing their opinions and posting their links to the subject they are interested in?
I just do not understand why you do this attack on people, there is no justifiable reason I can see for this . [/QUOTE]
I loathe trolls and career spammers who come on this website with an M.O. to either spam or troll the hell out of this forum and contribute to the downward spiral that's been driving away the GOOD users that used to be long time posters here, instead of participating in serious discussions and contributing positively to the website.
Try and understand my position for a moment here. I've been on this website since 1999/2000, and like a few others here I'm frustrated with the degradation in quality this website has suffered as a result of the hands free "moderation" over the years. When you came here at first, you fell into the spammer category as far as the rest of us were concerned. We had already had enough with other big time trolls such as Treasure Moment, Jake Britt around that time, and you came into the picture and pushed our buttons big time.
[QUOTE]My posts comprised of my interest in the biopic and things I had done for it , such as the cast and videos showing how good they look etc, but yours and most of the regular gangs posts are ridicule and bullying of other people whatever the subject matter. [/QUOTE]
Try reflecting on yourself and your past posts from the other side of the fence. The reason might come to you.
[QUOTE]I do not like people who's main aim in life seems to be a need to control others and bully them, you can come out with all sorts of accusations against others, to me you say my posts were spam,
I do not see all the work I did making my videos as spam, they took me ages to do, as did my blog.
You just like to insult me it seems by calling my stuff spam.
but I have seen your bullying of others and myself inuliger, and you spam your bullying as that is all you seem to do, when you have people in here who are not part of your group,
yes you spam your bullying then and attack in a spam of hatred. [/QUOTE]
Spam my bullying? Give me a break. You're starting to sound like rocknrolllover here.
[QUOTE]So don't give me that, why don't you be reasonable and live and let live?
Then if we could debate properly i could debate you wether or not a newcomer a unknown face would be better to portray Freddie than anyone known. [/QUOTE]
No offense, but I lost interest in the biopic because of the bad taste your blog related spamming left in my mouth. I'm not interested in any debates at this point as such.
[QUOTE]My constant arguments against Sacha were not a hate campaign, they were a creative attack done in good humour, but making a serious point, which in the end Queen themselves agreed with. [/QUOTE]
That's not the way I remember it. You had set your target on him in a very fanatical, vehement manner.
[QUOTE] And as I have posted on my blog, I would like to see Sacha play the retired section Freddie, based upon my idea of how to best format the storyline. [/QUOTE]
A shocking change of stance.
[QUOTE]I want the film to be in 3 parts, and the retired section would be a axis pin, to tell Freddie's story in a novel and interesting way, and add an creative element to keep the movie full of things to look forward to instead of only looking back
as bio stories can be rather stale and difficult to make original in the way the story unfolds, most options have been used and my idea of how to lay out the story was far more interesting than just chronological or the one moment in time format they appear to be going for with a reflection back aspect. [/QUOTE]
Not trying to shoot you down man, but as someone who's been involved in creating and making music in the studio for a few years now, for instance, what you personally might think is a great idea on paper may not be something everyone else agrees with in principle or in practice.
Just some food for thought.
What does all of this have to do with Queen expanding their tour to Australia and possibly New Zealand? Ha! Ha! However, I appreciate the support against the bullying and stalking!
[QUOTE] [b]SweetCaroline wrote:[/b]
More:
http://www.fasterlouder.com.au/news/39448/Queen_Adam_Lambert_isnt_an_insult_to_Freddie_Mercury?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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This is an interesting comment in this article -- Led Zeppelin? .....
'Rather than following the low-road to fame like Fortune, Lambert didn’t set out to front a cash-grab reunion tour. He made his way as a solo act in his own right and has released two solo albums since his American Idol success. According to Forbes, he pocketed a cool $5 million last year and will release a third solo record – the follow-up to 2012’s favourably received Trespassing – later this year. Touring with Queen isn’t going to hurt him but it’s not like it’s his only option – he could probably front a Led Zeppelin tour as well."
Inuliger can attack me all he wants but he is wrong.
"Not trying to shoot you down man, but as someone who's been involved in creating and making music in the studio for a few years now, for instance, what you personally might think is a great idea on paper may not be something everyone else agrees with in principle or in practice. "
The post was about how to present the story of Freddie's life within Queen, with an original twist that would make it more than just the usual well trodden biographical road map. It has nothing to do with music or producing music.
And as for your saying my still wanting Sacha to play Freddie retired is a turn around, It isn't, as I told Brian May that when I sent him a script idea a few months before the night before I sent him the picture of Jeremy Kapone which is the header of my blog, the morning after I sent that , he announced that Sacha would NOT be portraying Freddie.
Obviously you have not read my blog, which is no surprise as you are hostile towards everything i ever said here about the biopic, and as such you don't really know what I have said, but Brian May does.
As for queen online i posted all my posts on the subject in the thread on the biopic movie
In here my posts were deleted and taken over by trolls telling me to fuck off etc and die etc etc
So I had to create new posts or I posted on other threads that were started by other people talking about the biopic
And yes sweet Caroline you are right, again I have fallen for trying to defend myself against these constant accusers and I am sorry I was going off topic.
I shall stop posting replies to inuliger and anyone else who falsely attacks me.
Please continue with your Adam lambert threads.
But you can imagine my sense of VICTORY ( I cannot wait for my TUNE) , when straight after I sent Brian May the picture of Jeremy Kapone as Freddie , the picture that now is "THE BANNER" on my blog , he announced that Sacha Baron Cohen shall NOT be playing Freddie in the movie, literally hours after I sent him that picture.
This is THE picture that got Sacha out of the biopic
And you cannot fail to see the " Q " either for the sake of Jeremy's Eye- the Eyes have it, don't you think?
http://freddiemercurybiopic.wordpress.com/
My detractors have permission to post BELOW ME
Not yours MEDUSA
[QUOTE] [b]Queenfansunite wrote:[/b]And as for your saying my still wanting Sacha to play Freddie retired is a turn around, It isn't, as I told Brian May that when I sent him a script idea a few months before the night before I sent him the picture of Jeremy Kapone which is the header of my blog, the morning after I sent that , he announced that Sacha would NOT be portraying Freddie.
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But you can imagine my sense of VICTORY ( I cannot wait for my TUNE) , when straight after I sent Brian May the picture of Jeremy Kapone as Freddie , the picture that now is "THE BANNER" on my blog , he announced that Sacha Baron Cohen shall NOT be playing Freddie in the movie, literally hours after I sent him that picture.
This is THE picture that got Sacha out of the biopic [/QUOTE]
You're a highly egotistical prat if you think I am going to buy that self inflated fantastical garbage for a second. That is extremely unrealistic in the least to assume that some fan submitted picture of yours, you a mere so called "fan" with no more influential pull on Brian than me or any other fan here, sent presumably late at night sparked an internal last minute flurry in the most ungodly hour of night for Brian to all of a sudden contact Roger in a panic to say "Oh my god we MUST get rid of Sacha because some fan with a blog sent in a picture that's changed my mind all of a sudden!" and convince Roger to follow suit, and so forth and so forth, just to lead to an early morning press announcement.
Get over yourself. Really. Get over yourself.
At best, that was an act on your part that was no more than very coincidental in the timing. Unfortunately that coincidence has led you to let yourself believe otherwise and run with it.
Professional decisions don't happen just like THAT. Clearly there were factors that had to have brewed over time. And if there was a contract involved, both parties would have had to mutually agree to cancel it. No way a bunch of entertainment lawyers are going to be contacted all at the same time at some ungodly hour too just to get involved to make these changes happen in a very short time span!
Unfortunately you're probably going to continue to live in your fantasy scenario and continue to dismiss me as a bully despite the fact I form my opinions based on REALITY and on previous precedence & experience, so I'm not going to argue this bit any further with you.
[QUOTE]And you cannot fail to see the " Q " either for the sake of Jeremy's Eye- the Eyes have it, don't you think? [/QUOTE]
Apparently Queen don't think so. They went with Ben Wishaw for a reason, and I think I can see why. For your amusement, I went on Google Images to compare the two, and Ben Wishaw fits the 80's Freddie image. Kapone maybe might have been appropriate for a 70's Freddie, but only a fool would think Queen want to promote the 70's Freddie image front and center. Whether you, me or the rest of the fans like it or not, 80's Freddie is what the general public will always expect to see thanks to the post-1991 image campaign QPL and the Mercury Estate have embarked on since to ensure 80's Freddie stays ingrained in the public consciousness.
And chances are, your campaign to have Kapone replace Cohen might have (Key word: MIGHT HAVE) hurt his chances anyways, even if he had a fair chance to compete for the role. I don't think he would be too pleased to learn that some fanatical man went around overpromoting him in a manner that pissed off another entity's legion of fans across multiple public forums, damaging his image in the process.
More publicity in Australia for QAL:
"The performance will include enormously talented Adam Lambert as vocal front man. A befitting replacement for the late great Freddie Mercury, Lambert is sure to do the legend and legacy that is Mr Mercury justice."
From this article
http://www.australiantimes.co.uk/entertainment/music/queen-fronted-by-adam-lambert-set-to-tour-australia-in-august.htm#.U35fmoabIZ4.twitter
Holy fuck. I'm shocked medusa is once again trying to pull the wool over people's eyes. The biggest troll/spammer/ignorant/self absorbed/selfish/deluded poster I've ever come across. You do know he was banned outright for spreading crap on QOL, it's never changed a bit, in fact it's even worse.
Enjoy or not SC and taptap your talks with queenfansunite/medusa etc etc who thinks for one AIDS is fake and has the gall to post that on a Queen board, and so much more crap besides. If you fall for this guy and his "truths", you'll fall for anything. I wouldn't wish his hate/anger on anyone.
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Oh lord, I forgot all about his AIDS denial postings. Thank you icy.
