Freddie Mercury = Queen Engine

Car without engine is totally damaged ,cannot even drive slow ,in my opinion the same situation is with Queen band ,without Freddie Queen doesnt exist ,i can explain in few words why.
Queen havent released any good song since Freddie died in 1991.Freddie composed the most popular and the best songs with Queen when he was member of that band ,you all may say that other members of queen was also good and they composed also other great songs ,i agree with this but Freddie influence was irreplaceable ,He created this band and wrote more than 50% songs.
If there was no Freddie living on this earth you might never heard about Queen i swear and i bet.
Freddie Mercury was individual ,amazing person with one of the best voices ever
I also like Brian May know he is great ,awesome guitarist ,Roger is quite good drummer and John Deacon is very good basist but they all are nothing compare to Freddies talent ,skills as a composer.

no trolling ,this is true what i wrote ,if you think im trolling please explain one simple thing ,why Queen didnt released any good song since 1991 when Freddie died ,the answer is simple ,Queen without Freddie is nothing and you know that.
Dont be rude ,im not trolling just said the truth.
And one word about Adam Lambert ,Adam Lambert is very weak singer who dont represent anything ,he isnt even half good like Freddie was ,sorry for my english but im from Poland.
Theres no even comparision between Freddie and Lambert ,no even comparision.

So everything on Made In Heaven is shite?

I'd like to think that some of the best Queen songs were written by Brian May. IMO he's definitely on par with Mercury if we're talking about songwriting.

"but they all are nothing compare to Freddies talent ,skills as a composer." - absolutely disagree.

Surely, you make some kind of point I guess, but aren't you going a bit far? Freddie was just a man too, you know. Hell, why didn't they just call themselves "Freddie Mercury and 3 other blokes". Because they each are 1/4 of Queen, they made Queen what they were. Take a look at Mr Bad Guy, where did this God-like songwriter get on his own?

ok tell me then one title of song released after Freddies death ,except Made in Heaven album ,as good as for example Somebody to Love and BOhemian Rhapsody ,i can check this on youtube ,say one title and i will check this.
Brian May and Roger Taylor deep know that Queen doesnt exist ,they are just playing with this Adam Lambert certainly for money and nothing else.
Im listening often to Pink Floyd my favourite band ever and i know that theres the same situation ,Pink Floyd without Roger Waters and David Gilmour doesnt exist.
You was talking about album Mr Bad Guy ,you mean this is weak album.I dont agree with you ,this is very good album ,not that good like albums with all members but still very good.
You can disagree but in my opinion there will never be Queen real Queen anymore ,because Freddie cannot resurect.

Well, *now* you're saying "except Made In Heaven". No-One But You is a beautiful tribute to Freddie from the rest of the band. Apart from that, there's hardly any stuff that I care much about.

Obviously, no one denies that Freddie's death was end of an era. As I said, each member made 1/4 of Queen. Without Freddie & John Queen can't function properly as they used to. So it's quite logical you won't get any more things like STL or Bohemian Rhapsody.

As for Lambert, I don't think they need money much, they are surely doing way better than I am and anyone else on here for that matter. I think they just keep on doing what they like and while they still can before it's too late because time waits for nobody. IMO nothing much would change for them financially if they didn't tour at all.

I'd happily pick Mr Bad Guy over Rihanna, Pitbull or whatever is out there at the moment. Freddie's vocal performance actually makes it worth a listen and there are a couple of good songs on it. But surely, it's not up to Freddie's standarts - it's nowhere near STL or Bohemian Rhapsody or even mid 80s Queen material. It just sounds dated.
If you compare Mr Bad Guy to Barcelona, that is completely different level, IMO Barcelona is one of Freddie's finest works in which his songwriting sort of came back to him because he did that album bearing in mind that it might be his last one.

"You can disagree but in my opinion there will never be Queen real Queen anymore ,because Freddie cannot resurect. " - I agree.

Your 2nd post in this thread made more sense to me than the 1st one that seemed to imply that Queen were "Freddie Mercury and 3 other blokes who play instruments".

Brian May is easily as good a composer as Freddie.

White Queen, The Prophet's Song, It's Late, Sail Away Sweet Sister, Who Wants To Live Forever, Cyborg (Brian's channeling of a video game character is nothing short of brilliant)

Brian's best work may not be as well known as Freddie's, but the quality is undeniable.

He composed a dixieland jazz band of guitars on Good Company. This alone should cement Brian in amongst the top 1% of contributors to music in the last 50 years.

[QUOTE] [b]MercuryVenus wrote:[/b]

Car without engine is totally damaged ,cannot even drive slow ,[/QUOTE]

A car without an engine can drive if somebody/something gives it the initial push.

[QUOTE]in my opinion the same situation is with Queen band ,without Freddie Queen doesnt exist ,i can explain in few words why.[/QUOTE]

You forgot John Deacon. And all the previous bass & keyboard players. They all together formed the band, you know, and all of them were important for the final "product".

[QUOTE]Queen havent released any good song since Freddie died in 1991.[/QUOTE]

I can't agree. I sort of like Made In Heaven and Only the good die young.

[QUOTE]Freddie composed the most popular and the best songs with Queen when he was member of that band ,you all may say that other members of queen was also good and they composed also other great songs ,i agree with this but Freddie influence was irreplaceable ,[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure, "Most popular" and "best" are very subjective terms. From my memory I can remember Rhapsody, Champions and STL to be popular. At least in my country, I know that in some countries stuff like Play The Game and Crazy Little Thing were popular too. But all of them wrote hits and all of them wrote great songs (that's of course not the same thing).

[QUOTE]He created this band and wrote more than 50% songs.[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure. Does joining a band which needs a new singer and changing the name = creating the band? And I didn't count if he wrote more than 50% of their songs, and I'm too lazy to do so now, so I'll trust you on this one.

[QUOTE]If there was no Freddie living on this earth you might never heard about Queen i swear and i bet.[/QUOTE]

Well probably true. Without Freddie they would probably end up being just one of hundreds of pub bands.

[QUOTE]Freddie Mercury was individual ,amazing person with one of the best voices ever[/QUOTE]

I didn't know him personally but from his interviews he doesn't seem like an amazing person to me. More like ... well some things are better left unsaid :-)

[QUOTE]I also like Brian May know he is great ,awesome guitarist ,Roger is quite good drummer and John Deacon is very good basist but they all are nothing compare to Freddies talent ,skills as a composer.
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I think the past tense would be more appropriate. Brian WAS a great guitarist, Roger WAS a "quite good" drummer and John Deacon WAS a very good bassist. The fact that Brian and Roger got so incredibly weak (at least on their last tour they were really painful to watch) was one of the 2 reasons why I'm not interested in this year's Q+AL tour.

Regarding Freddie's talent I alway say - for each "Bohemian Rhapsody" there is a "Body Language" in his catalogue.

Gerry is this you again....?
I never knew that is was Freddie Mercury +........

[QUOTE] [b]MercuryVenus wrote:[/b]

no trolling ,this is true what i wrote ,if you think im trolling please explain one simple thing ,why Queen didnt released any good song since 1991 when Freddie died ,the answer is simple ,Queen without Freddie is nothing and you know that.
Dont be rude ,im not trolling just said the truth.
And one word about Adam Lambert ,Adam Lambert is very weak singer who dont represent anything ,he isnt even half good like Freddie was ,sorry for my english but im from Poland.
Theres no even comparision between Freddie and Lambert ,no even comparision.

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well I agree with you. Had Lambert been their singer from the get go Queen wouldn't have made it

[QUOTE] [b]MercuryVenus wrote:[/b]

Car without engine is totally damaged ,cannot even drive slow ,in my opinion the same situation is with Queen band ,without Freddie Queen doesnt exist ,i can explain in few words why.
Queen havent released any good song since Freddie died in 1991.Freddie composed the most popular and the best songs with Queen when he was member of that band ,you all may say that other members of queen was also good and they composed also other great songs ,i agree with this but Freddie influence was irreplaceable ,He created this band and wrote more than 50% songs.
If there was no Freddie living on this earth you might never heard about Queen i swear and i bet.
Freddie Mercury was individual ,amazing person with one of the best voices ever
I also like Brian May know he is great ,awesome guitarist ,Roger is quite good drummer and John Deacon is very good basist but they all are nothing compare to Freddies talent ,skills as a composer.

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I think you are completely wrong, in terms of an "engine". If anything you'd say Brian is actually the engine of the band. As an example look how light all Freddie's songs sounded on his solo album compared to Brian's in terms of the music (exclude the vocals). I'd compare Brian to a Mike Moran who did all the wonderful music on Freddie's Barcelona album. Without Mike playing that album would not have had as much an impact. Without Brian would Queen have been Queen. Brian was able to construct music very easily and quickly (whether for other members songs or his own) as Roy Thomas Baker said and that was one of his biggest strengths. In terms of a songwriter though I think Freddie was certainly better.

You dont want to admit that Freddie was for sure Queen engine.
Freddie could easily join other band without Brian ,Roger and John and easily make carrier easily without any problem but to the other side Brian and others without Freddie would be never recognized by whole world.
Someone said here that Freddie wasnt amazing personality ,are you kidding ,i bet it was joke .FREDDIE WAS the best showman ever and you said he wasnt special individual personality.
Im 25 years old and yesterday i asked my father who teached me listening to Queen if i am right with this topic and he said yes ,Queen without Freddie Mercury is nothing ,theres no Queen anymore and will never be .
I agree Brian May wrote many songs good songs but Freddie wrote more and more spectacular.

Yeah now you're talking, Sour Milk Sea, Wreckage!
25 years old you are? Well my Polish friend there is a lot for you to learn about Queen. It wasn't Freddie + thing, it was Queen. However is was once billed Roger Taylor and Queen. It was a collective verhicle, for all four man.

Theres nothing to learn for me about Queen ,i know everything about this band ,and i know that without Freddie Queen is nothing just a piece of crap ,Freddie was pulling this band through all the reverses ,throung all the problems ,he was like a locomotive ,like an engine - strong engine
Im asking you again ,tell me one title ,one song ,good song released after Freddies death except Made in HEaven album ,i want to listen on youtube what master Brian May and master Roger Taylor created by themselvs.

Well, how many Hits did the Freddie-Engine create after 1980 Crazy Little Thing Called Love?
If you take a look at their Hits after that it's not too much of Freddie.

1982 Under Pressure -> Group effort

Freddie came up with Body Language

1984 -> Radio Ga Ga is mostly Roger's
I want to break free is John's

Freddie's it's a hard live did not go too far

1986: One Vision -> Group effort
a Kind of Magic -> mostly Roger's

Freddie's Friends will be Friends, which probably was mostly John's did not go too well

1989: I want it all -> mosty Brian's

Freddie's Miracle was not too successfull

1991: Innuendo -> Group effort

Freddie's going slightly mad did also not do too well.again.

I agree that Queen what not had lifted of without Freddie, and nowadays Bri and Rog are not really 'Queen' but I think it is not right to credit the whole Queen Effort to Freddie.