I have to agree. It's one thing to measure the differences and similarities between two things, but you also need to weigh up which of those things are important and which aren't. The fact that it doesn't have an acoustic guitar for example is, imo, irrelevant. TSMGO has that "classic Queen" sound because it is ambitious, dramatic and multi-layered -- which are the main things I equate with the classic Queen period.
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thomasquinn 32989 wrote: Your lyrics-criticism aside, those are all production and arrangement points, not compositional. I think you are wrong in considering the production a vital part of what makes Queen-songs Queen-songs. They're not ABBA, ffs.
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Sebastian wrote:
* It was recorded with a metronome.
* It's got programmed drums alongside the acoustic ones.
* It lacks a 'live' backing track.
* There's no piano or acoustic guitar.
* Drums are set up, tuned and mixed very differently.
* It's synth-based.
* Lyrics aren't fairy tale thingies or straightforward love songs.
So using this list as a guide we can deduce that nothing recorded after 1979 is classic Queen.
Another thing that is worthy of note. In an interview in 1980 in International Musician RT gives a very descriptive account of the way he and Roy Thomas Baker used to construct drum loops on which the Bass and Rhythm guitars were recorded because that alway gave a perfect timed track to work too. In the interview he was saying that that is how most of Fun In Space was tracked too. Drum fills etc were added later. So does that mean that mean there are no classic Queen tracks according to the rules of the list
Yeah, loops were used sometimes for the Jazz album, but in general, Queen in the 70s recorded without metronomes, that's easy to check and confirm.
There's nothing wrong with a track not being 'classic' Queen, as it doesn't make it any better or worse than one that is.
In compositional terms, 'Show Must Go On' is not too similar to 70's Queen tracks either. At least, not more so than the average 80's or 90's track.
There's nothing wrong with a track not being 'classic' Queen, as it doesn't make it any better or worse than one that is.
In compositional terms, 'Show Must Go On' is not too similar to 70's Queen tracks either. At least, not more so than the average 80's or 90's track.
Inu wrote: "Any chance of getting these newly leaked Freddie tapes in FLAC? :P"
Sorry to be a wet blanket here; but a TRUE FLAC version has not been released. This is an MP3 "master" which was been converted back into FLAC and is therefore neither lossless or reliable.
Sorry to be a wet blanket here; but a TRUE FLAC version has not been released. This is an MP3 "master" which was been converted back into FLAC and is therefore neither lossless or reliable.
John S Stuart wrote:
Inu wrote: "Any chance of getting these newly leaked Freddie tapes in FLAC? :P"
Sorry to be a wet blanket here; but a TRUE FLAC version has not been released. This is an MP3 "master" which was been converted back into FLAC and is therefore neither lossless or reliable.
John, do you have any idea of the recording date of this track and any related tracks?
John S Stuart wrote:
Inu wrote: "Any chance of getting these newly leaked Freddie tapes in FLAC? :P"
Sorry to be a wet blanket here; but a TRUE FLAC version has not been released. This is an MP3 "master" which was been converted back into FLAC and is therefore neither lossless or reliable.
That´s what i thought. The files are too small for FLAC.
Now that is shared, can you share the FLAC version of these songs John?
Look, i feel embarassed to ask this, after witnessing what is going on not only on this topic, but in Queenzone in general. I can understand if you don´t have the motivation to share it here, but i still had to ask.
Mr. Queen Fan: Give me a dropbox (or similar) address and I will send you a genuine FLAC version.
Lets Just say everyone has different opinions and leave it at that.
I'm not convinced that this is Freddie.
Reid_Special_98 wrote:
I'm not convinced that this is Freddie.
If JSS says it is, and he owns the recording, then you can take that to the bank.
To be fair - I have no doubt that JSS owns the recording but I simply do not believe that the person playing it is Freddie. I am always skeptical.
I could say I have a tape of Brian May tuning his guitar ... but it could just be me tuning my guitar.
I could say I have a tape of Brian May tuning his guitar ... but it could just be me tuning my guitar.
Nothing?
Reid_Special_98 wrote:
To be fair - I have no doubt that JSS owns the recording but I simply do not believe that the person playing it is Freddie. I am always skeptical.
I could say I have a tape of Brian May tuning his guitar ... but it could just be me tuning my guitar.
What reasonable grounds do you have for assuming it is NOT Freddie?
Simple answer: proof
Let me clarify my position.
I have no reason to doubt JSS and his claim. Nor am I here to discredit his many years of expertise and dedication to the fandom of which we are all a part of. He has my respect - that is for sure. In saying that - I simply offer this discussion in the spirit of just that, with no malice or such hard feelings towards anybody.
Is this a fine recording ? yes. No question.
Is it interesting to listen to ? Yes. No question.
Are we all grateful to be able to hear this nugget ? Yes. Absolutely.
My standpoint for not being 100% convinced in this recording simply lies with the fact that a) the sheet music for Send In the Clowns is so readily available and as a result b) anybody with adequate training and competence in piano (myself included) could achieve similar results as is found in this recording.
That is not to say I didn't enjoy the recording or the person so kind in offering this recording to share and hear - regardless of original source. I simply must ask the question, for purposes of discussion.
Just my two cents.
I have no reason to doubt JSS and his claim. Nor am I here to discredit his many years of expertise and dedication to the fandom of which we are all a part of. He has my respect - that is for sure. In saying that - I simply offer this discussion in the spirit of just that, with no malice or such hard feelings towards anybody.
Is this a fine recording ? yes. No question.
Is it interesting to listen to ? Yes. No question.
Are we all grateful to be able to hear this nugget ? Yes. Absolutely.
My standpoint for not being 100% convinced in this recording simply lies with the fact that a) the sheet music for Send In the Clowns is so readily available and as a result b) anybody with adequate training and competence in piano (myself included) could achieve similar results as is found in this recording.
That is not to say I didn't enjoy the recording or the person so kind in offering this recording to share and hear - regardless of original source. I simply must ask the question, for purposes of discussion.
Just my two cents.