Donna13
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/men-killed-james-foley
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pittrek
Please don't use words like "executed". The have MURDERED him.
Donna13
If you are referring to my post, please note that I did not say that they "executed" James Foley. I said they have executed civilians in mass. One of the definitions of execute is "to put to death especially in compliance with a legal sentence." ISIS is declaring themselves to be a governing body. They are overtaking areas and requiring non-Muslims to convert. Their penalty for refusal is execution. The term execution does not carry any connotation of approval or legal justification from me or the western reporters who have used the term.
In the case of James Foley I would not use the term execution and I did not. They brutally and savagely killed him on camera in an attempt to terrorize and threaten not only every American but every decent person in the world who believes in democracy and freedom of the press.
In the case of James Foley I would not use the term execution and I did not. They brutally and savagely killed him on camera in an attempt to terrorize and threaten not only every American but every decent person in the world who believes in democracy and freedom of the press.
Donna13
Well ... the Washington Post is using the term "execution" to describe what happened to James Foley.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/accent-of-james-foleys-apparent-executioner-prompts-a-reckoning-in-britain/2014/08/20/5edd7b44-07fc-4dad-9700-2dcb793b075d_story.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/accent-of-james-foleys-apparent-executioner-prompts-a-reckoning-in-britain/2014/08/20/5edd7b44-07fc-4dad-9700-2dcb793b075d_story.html
pittrek
[QUOTE] [b]Donna13 wrote:[/b]
If you are referring to my post, please note that I did not say that they "executed" James Foley. I said they have executed civilians in mass. One of the definitions of execute is "to put to death especially in compliance with a legal sentence." ISIS is declaring themselves to be a governing body. They are overtaking areas and requiring non-Muslims to convert. Their penalty for refusal is execution. The term execution does not carry any connotation of approval or legal justification from me or the western reporters who have used the term.
In the case of James Foley I would not use the term execution and I did not. They brutally and savagely killed him on camera in an attempt to terrorize and threaten not only every American but every decent person in the world who believes in democracy and freedom of the press. [/QUOTE]
No Donna, I was referring to the original post.
ISIS can declare themselves as government. I can ALSO declare myself as the president of planet Earth. They're nothing else just bunch of murderers who pretend they have a higher "religious" goal. They deserve death and I hope they'll get it soon.
If you are referring to my post, please note that I did not say that they "executed" James Foley. I said they have executed civilians in mass. One of the definitions of execute is "to put to death especially in compliance with a legal sentence." ISIS is declaring themselves to be a governing body. They are overtaking areas and requiring non-Muslims to convert. Their penalty for refusal is execution. The term execution does not carry any connotation of approval or legal justification from me or the western reporters who have used the term.
In the case of James Foley I would not use the term execution and I did not. They brutally and savagely killed him on camera in an attempt to terrorize and threaten not only every American but every decent person in the world who believes in democracy and freedom of the press. [/QUOTE]
No Donna, I was referring to the original post.
ISIS can declare themselves as government. I can ALSO declare myself as the president of planet Earth. They're nothing else just bunch of murderers who pretend they have a higher "religious" goal. They deserve death and I hope they'll get it soon.
GERRYISADICK
A nuke can do that in seconds
Donna13
Sorry, Pittrek.
FreddieCat
[QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sanjay-sanghoee/what-hamas-and-isis-have_b_5660020.html[/QUOTE]
Opinionator forgets to say Hama is a legally elected government whose sole purpose is to protect/defend Gaza, period. There is only one entity conducting the mass killing of innocent people of Gaza, illegally stealing Gaza land, and imposing a deadly siege upon Gaza - Israel. Not Hamas, but Israel.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sanjay-sanghoee/what-hamas-and-isis-have_b_5660020.html[/QUOTE]
Opinionator forgets to say Hama is a legally elected government whose sole purpose is to protect/defend Gaza, period. There is only one entity conducting the mass killing of innocent people of Gaza, illegally stealing Gaza land, and imposing a deadly siege upon Gaza - Israel. Not Hamas, but Israel.
brENsKi
[QUOTE] [b]FreddieCat wrote:[/b]Opinionator forgets to say Hama is a legally elected government whose sole purpose is to protect/defend Gaza, period. There is only one entity conducting the mass killing of innocent people of Gaza, illegally stealing Gaza land, and imposing a deadly siege upon Gaza - Israel. Not Hamas, but Israel.[/QUOTE]
and you forget one thing. [b][i]democratically[/i][/b] elected or [b][i]not[/i][/b], Hamas are not only murderers, they also pledge a mission statement to do exactly what the [b]Nazi's[/b] failed to do - seems they (Hamas) are much closer to [b]Hitler [/b]than the allegations directed at Israel.:
this is from Hamas' own charter: - it's very easy to find and ALL over the internet: but i doubt YOU will see this as truth because left-wing apologists seldom see the facts...even when they are staring them in the face:
[b][i] The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement was issued on August 18, 1988. The Islamic Resistance Movement, also known as the HAMAS, is an extremist fundamentalist Islamic organization operating in the
territories under Israeli control. Its Covenant is a comprehensive manifesto comprised of 36 separate articles, all of which promote the basic HAMAS goal of destroying the State of Israel through Jihad
(Islamic Holy War). [/i][/b]
[b] On the Destruction of Israel:[/b]
[b][i] 'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it" [/i][/b]
all very reasonable stuff eh? how would YOU like to try and live your daily life knowing that everyone in the next town is sworn to killing you?
and you forget one thing. [b][i]democratically[/i][/b] elected or [b][i]not[/i][/b], Hamas are not only murderers, they also pledge a mission statement to do exactly what the [b]Nazi's[/b] failed to do - seems they (Hamas) are much closer to [b]Hitler [/b]than the allegations directed at Israel.:
this is from Hamas' own charter: - it's very easy to find and ALL over the internet: but i doubt YOU will see this as truth because left-wing apologists seldom see the facts...even when they are staring them in the face:
[b][i] The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement was issued on August 18, 1988. The Islamic Resistance Movement, also known as the HAMAS, is an extremist fundamentalist Islamic organization operating in the
territories under Israeli control. Its Covenant is a comprehensive manifesto comprised of 36 separate articles, all of which promote the basic HAMAS goal of destroying the State of Israel through Jihad
(Islamic Holy War). [/i][/b]
[b] On the Destruction of Israel:[/b]
[b][i] 'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it" [/i][/b]
all very reasonable stuff eh? how would YOU like to try and live your daily life knowing that everyone in the next town is sworn to killing you?
GERRYISADICK
Theres only one way to end this all without war
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]FreddieCat wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sanjay-sanghoee/what-hamas-and-isis-have_b_5660020.html
[/QUOTE]
Opinionator forgets to say Hama is a legally elected government whose sole purpose is to protect/defend Gaza, period. There is only one entity conducting the mass killing of innocent people of Gaza, illegally stealing Gaza land, and imposing a deadly siege upon Gaza - Israel. Not Hamas, but Israel.
[/QUOTE]
Hamas may be scum, but when you break it down like that you're absolutely right.
And it will take decades for the rest of the world to agree with you. But kudos for being on the right side of history ahead of them.
[QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sanjay-sanghoee/what-hamas-and-isis-have_b_5660020.html
[/QUOTE]
Opinionator forgets to say Hama is a legally elected government whose sole purpose is to protect/defend Gaza, period. There is only one entity conducting the mass killing of innocent people of Gaza, illegally stealing Gaza land, and imposing a deadly siege upon Gaza - Israel. Not Hamas, but Israel.
[/QUOTE]
Hamas may be scum, but when you break it down like that you're absolutely right.
And it will take decades for the rest of the world to agree with you. But kudos for being on the right side of history ahead of them.
FreddieCat
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]FreddieCat wrote:[/b]Opinionator forgets to say Hama is a legally elected government whose sole purpose is to protect/defend Gaza, period. There is only one entity conducting the mass killing of innocent people of Gaza, illegally stealing Gaza land, and imposing a deadly siege upon Gaza - Israel. Not Hamas, but Israel.[/QUOTE]
and you forget one thing. [b][i]democratically[/i][/b] elected or [b][i]not[/i][/b], Hamas are not only murderers, they also pledge a mission statement to do exactly what the [b]Nazi's[/b] failed to do - seems they (Hamas) are much closer to [b]Hitler [/b]than the allegations directed at Israel.:
this is from Hamas' own charter: - it's very easy to find and ALL over the internet: but i doubt YOU will see this as truth because left-wing apologists seldom see the facts...even when they are staring them in the face:
[b][i] The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement was issued on August 18, 1988. The Islamic Resistance Movement, also known as the HAMAS, is an extremist fundamentalist Islamic organization operating in the
territories under Israeli control. Its Covenant is a comprehensive manifesto comprised of 36 separate articles, all of which promote the basic HAMAS goal of destroying the State of Israel through Jihad
(Islamic Holy War). [/i][/b]
[b] On the Destruction of Israel:[/b]
[b][i] 'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it" [/i][/b]
all very reasonable stuff eh? how would YOU like to try and live your daily life knowing that everyone in the next town is sworn to killing you?[/QUOTE]
And the people of Alaska voted ultra-conservative Sarah Palin into the mayoral office of Wasila, and the governor's office of the state. She is an extremist Christian, and more conservative/ignorant than John McCain. Should we have bombed Alaska to get rid of her? Afterall, it was their fault that she was McCain's presidential running mate.
Hamas ONLY gives shit about Gaza, and doesn't care what the rest of he world thinks about Islam. Yes, they are fierce protectors. If I happened to be in Gaza dealing with Israel's siege and illegal settlement stealing/home demolitions and that awful wall, I would want good protection too.
[QUOTE] [b]FreddieCat wrote:[/b]Opinionator forgets to say Hama is a legally elected government whose sole purpose is to protect/defend Gaza, period. There is only one entity conducting the mass killing of innocent people of Gaza, illegally stealing Gaza land, and imposing a deadly siege upon Gaza - Israel. Not Hamas, but Israel.[/QUOTE]
and you forget one thing. [b][i]democratically[/i][/b] elected or [b][i]not[/i][/b], Hamas are not only murderers, they also pledge a mission statement to do exactly what the [b]Nazi's[/b] failed to do - seems they (Hamas) are much closer to [b]Hitler [/b]than the allegations directed at Israel.:
this is from Hamas' own charter: - it's very easy to find and ALL over the internet: but i doubt YOU will see this as truth because left-wing apologists seldom see the facts...even when they are staring them in the face:
[b][i] The Covenant of the Islamic Resistance Movement was issued on August 18, 1988. The Islamic Resistance Movement, also known as the HAMAS, is an extremist fundamentalist Islamic organization operating in the
territories under Israeli control. Its Covenant is a comprehensive manifesto comprised of 36 separate articles, all of which promote the basic HAMAS goal of destroying the State of Israel through Jihad
(Islamic Holy War). [/i][/b]
[b] On the Destruction of Israel:[/b]
[b][i] 'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it" [/i][/b]
all very reasonable stuff eh? how would YOU like to try and live your daily life knowing that everyone in the next town is sworn to killing you?[/QUOTE]
And the people of Alaska voted ultra-conservative Sarah Palin into the mayoral office of Wasila, and the governor's office of the state. She is an extremist Christian, and more conservative/ignorant than John McCain. Should we have bombed Alaska to get rid of her? Afterall, it was their fault that she was McCain's presidential running mate.
Hamas ONLY gives shit about Gaza, and doesn't care what the rest of he world thinks about Islam. Yes, they are fierce protectors. If I happened to be in Gaza dealing with Israel's siege and illegal settlement stealing/home demolitions and that awful wall, I would want good protection too.
Saint Jiub
Who has Sarah Palin kidnapped or murdered?
GERRYISADICK
The GOP's credibility
Saint Jiub
[QUOTE]
[b]Jefffabiano wrote: [/b] The GOP's credibility
...
Touche[/QUOTE]
[b]Jefffabiano wrote: [/b] The GOP's credibility
...
Touche[/QUOTE]