Real unreleased tracks to come?

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[QUOTE] [b]Sheer Brass Neck wrote:[/b]



Nope. 39 and Long Away were perfect with Brian singing. Brian was a millionth of a singer that Freddie was, but he did vulnerability exceptionally well. Both songs needed the fragile quality Brian brought them, Freddie would;t have improved them. IMHO. [/QUOTE]


Yeah, perfect word for it.....vulnerability..........thats why I like Brians version of TMLWKY so much better.............I always thought Freddie sounded too uh..............un-vulnerable for the song.......(invulnerable??).............like I could almost imagine him smiling while singing that.............
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I'm thinking the same thing, but '39 is better live (with Freddie), Brian is best on Sail Away Sweet Sister, I think.

[QUOTE] [b]MercurialFreddie wrote:[/b]

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[b]winterspelt wrote: [/b] I have to say that, to me, Brian did a better vocal take than Freddie on Leaving Home Aint Easy and All Dead All Dead.

As for Roger, well, it seems that Roger's vocals are perfect for the song he choose to sing. Still, I think Drowse is the best non Freddie-on vocals song in the entire Queen and Queen related catalogue. [/QUOTE]

Are there versions of Leaving Home Ain't Easy and All Dead All Dead with Freddie only on vocals ?
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Not that we know of.

i wish to fuck they'd just release everything - all the demos, outtakes and unfinished hummings/guide vocals - in one handy ten-CD box set.
untouched, uncleaned and un"orbited" - because then all the completists will have fuck-all left to moan about.
but then i suppose those kinda people will always find something new to moan about.

[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]

i wish to fuck they'd just release everything - all the demos, outtakes and unfinished hummings/guide vocals - in one handy ten-CD box set.
untouched, uncleaned and un"orbited" - because then all the completists will have fuck-all left to moan about.
but then i suppose those kinda people will always find something new to moan about.

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Yes! I really hope so.

I'm sure I'll find something new to moan about, don't worry

I reckon that sort of stuff is the last stuff they will release. Cos until they do that, they keep the hardcore dyed-on fans watching. I'm mean we're here aren't we? If they did' we'd say OK thanks for coming and probably move on I reckon. In the meantime they can mess around with a track here, a couple of tracks there and sell more and more product! We know there were 3 Jacko songs, but they only releassd one! Only reason I can think of is that they are going to put them out on another album, or maybe two!

What gives me hope for this mostly is the fact that they did release an extensive anthology with lots of demo's and unfinished stuff for Freddie. I think they said more than once that the leftover stuff wasn't released for a very good reason - that it was mostly unfinished and just not very good. A reason I can understand, and it's really up to them. A song like Robbery is not more than a collection of basic riffs and My Secret Fantasy sounds like a jam that was never really worked out to a song. Things like these are probably just interesting for the fans, which I think should be reason enough to put it out. I don't think you should judge those pieces like a finished song, but as a fan I'm pretty fascinated with those takes.

And yeah if it happens I suppose it will be the very last thing that will be released, maybe when Brian and Rog are so old that they can hardly walk anymore.

Good point about Freddie's anthology joeri x 3! They know how to do this, and of course Roger has done it now as well. But the thing about Queen is they put out a "complete collection" then release some material, then do it again, and so on! So I wouldn't be surprised to see that happen again. We all heard those rumours years ago about 3 to 8 albums were left before we were told there was nothing left. And then, magically more material appears. Then Brian practically says he can string stuff together at will, then only releases three rather obvious tracks to most of us (at least TMBMTLTT and Love Kills were!).

So where to from here? I think we'll get an album with around 3 tracks we haven't heard (maybe strung together from pieces) and then some more "new Queen tracks" off solo albums, other sources etc.that we have heard. In other words, something akin to "a real" Made in Heaven 2. Hopefully we won't be waiting too long this time and it's somewhere near as good!

I was disappointed like most of you when we had a compilaton rather than MIH-2 type album as Brian stated. I expected 3-4 new songs excluding reworked stuff like Love Kills or duet with MJ, There is enough material that they could work on and finish. Brian and Roger could sing what Freddie was unable to, they could rework more solo material from Freddie, rearrange some older stuff, etc. I don't know if they were just getting lazy or planning to release more stuff on a different album and make more money....

ili, re:

>>I don't know if they were just getting lazy or planning to release more stuff on a different album and make more money....

Sadly, I don't think even *THEY* know. The decision making coming out of the Queen camp for the last 20 years (excluding the PHENOMENAL "Live At The Rainbow" release) is little more than shambolic; given that time frame, I'm not very hopeful of any swift change for the better.

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Listen to Houston 1977 - Brian and Roger's harmonies aren't quite on point ;)

I do definitely prefer the studio version. The live one is good too, but just not as layered and progressive as the studio version. I guess you can only do so much with a four piece band and a three part harmony.

The officially released Hyde Park version has harmonies that are spot on (presumably taken from some other night). I don't care if it's not a 100 % "authentic", that is the best version of the song, period. Go back to the studio version and Brian sounds like a flat tire in comparison.

All my opinions of course.

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I was disappointed like most of you when we had a compilaton rather than MIH-2 type album as Brian stated. I expected 3-4 new songs excluding reworked stuff like Love Kills or duet with MJ, There is enough material that they could work on and finish. Brian and Roger could sing what Freddie was unable to, they could rework more solo material from Freddie, rearrange some older stuff, etc. I don't know if they were just getting lazy or planning to release more stuff on a different album and make more money....[/QUOTE]

I thought the same as you! But in hindsight, releasing a compilation album with a few preheard tracks in some other form makes sense, if for no other reason than the length of time that has elapsed since their last release. Pink Floyd, Kate Bush, David Bowie and Black Sabbath have all done it recently to great success. Queen are now also cashing in, even without including any previously unreleased tracks!

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>Queen are now also cashing in, even without including any previously unreleased tracks!

What do you mean "now"? They've been cashing in since Freddie died - there's been no amendment to the shambolic nature of their strategy except for the live At The Rainbow triumph........

Fair enough Benn! But I think what they are doing is far from shambolic. They are squeezing every last drop out of what's left and they have been doing if for years, as you say. But I also think the time for some new product is approaching, at least to the extent that it exists. Then I guess they will go back to their rehash approach, which they have been following for years again, which has no doubt been so profitable for them.

And I guess from their point of view, there is no more Freddie, so they are just making the most of what material remains. Who knows how different it would be if Freddie was still alive? Obviously its impossible to know.