Rest in peace Freddie.
You are still greatly missed.
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Mr.Mouth
[QUOTE] [b]Kacio wrote:[/b]
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Great video...made my tear drop on keybord.
We still love you Freddie!
matt z
[QUOTE] [b]RafaelSomma wrote:[/b]
Somewhere in the distance, we heard the pounding of native drums...and we saw Freddie smiling....
P.S.: So much for all the "fans" on the board; don't even have the respect to write a word or two on Freddie on the anniversary of his passing...pathetic.[/QUOTE]
Geezus... preemptive fan bashing already!?
some people are work and doubtless others are playing music at home or traveling. Saying it here, though it may be convenient for gathering tributes, kinda amounts to preaching to the crowd.
That said. LIVE IN MONTREAL/WWRY is playing again tonight. I'm debating whether to go or not. Never seen it on a big screen theater style
Somewhere in the distance, we heard the pounding of native drums...and we saw Freddie smiling....
P.S.: So much for all the "fans" on the board; don't even have the respect to write a word or two on Freddie on the anniversary of his passing...pathetic.[/QUOTE]
Geezus... preemptive fan bashing already!?
some people are work and doubtless others are playing music at home or traveling. Saying it here, though it may be convenient for gathering tributes, kinda amounts to preaching to the crowd.
That said. LIVE IN MONTREAL/WWRY is playing again tonight. I'm debating whether to go or not. Never seen it on a big screen theater style
RafaelS
[QUOTE] [b]winterspelt wrote:[/b]
I think Queen and its members are more famous now (for their talent, rather than their excesses and non musical stuff) than in their prime.
To me, the sad thing about Freddie's death is that he just could not enjoy the pleasure of being recognized for his amazing vocal skills, his showmanship and his musicianship, instead of being exposed in the media as a drug addict, irresponsible lover and gay star surrounded by morons and excesses.
(sorry for the long post!) [/QUOTE]
You can thank the english press for taking down Queen and making them look like a supeficial band because of Freddie's flamboyance and his larger than life persona. Instead of seeing the great musician he was (Roger has said it in interviews numerous times that Freddie was underrated has a musician. How can you write a song like TFFMS and not be a good writer/musician?)
Also for the British intelligentsia it was more important focusing in Freddie's being gay and how morally he was depraved (all the gay people in the 80s didn't use condoms and they still don't in the 2000s, which is worst now because we know more about the disease). For them Freddie's death was a proof that a man who lived like him had died because he had bad morals. So for the last 20 years Brian & Roger have tried to reestablish the legacy of Freddie and show how a wonderful musician and a good person he was despite not taking seriously the threat of Aids.
I think Queen and its members are more famous now (for their talent, rather than their excesses and non musical stuff) than in their prime.
To me, the sad thing about Freddie's death is that he just could not enjoy the pleasure of being recognized for his amazing vocal skills, his showmanship and his musicianship, instead of being exposed in the media as a drug addict, irresponsible lover and gay star surrounded by morons and excesses.
(sorry for the long post!) [/QUOTE]
You can thank the english press for taking down Queen and making them look like a supeficial band because of Freddie's flamboyance and his larger than life persona. Instead of seeing the great musician he was (Roger has said it in interviews numerous times that Freddie was underrated has a musician. How can you write a song like TFFMS and not be a good writer/musician?)
Also for the British intelligentsia it was more important focusing in Freddie's being gay and how morally he was depraved (all the gay people in the 80s didn't use condoms and they still don't in the 2000s, which is worst now because we know more about the disease). For them Freddie's death was a proof that a man who lived like him had died because he had bad morals. So for the last 20 years Brian & Roger have tried to reestablish the legacy of Freddie and show how a wonderful musician and a good person he was despite not taking seriously the threat of Aids.
Thistle
Freddie Mercury was simply the best of the best. We will never see his like again. You'd think that after 23 years, it would be easier, and tributes would simply roll off the tongue. Well, it hasn't gotten any easier: we all still love, and miss, this fantastic talent.
RIP Freddie, and thank you for all the joy you've given your fans :)
RIP Freddie, and thank you for all the joy you've given your fans :)
Sheer Brass Neck
It's November, it's November and my mind's on Barcelona...
DragonflyTrumpeter83
In the past 23 years without you, the world has really taken a nose dive.... Things are steadily getting worse all the time.
Your presence is definitely missed...
Wish you were here, Freddie.
Your presence is definitely missed...
Wish you were here, Freddie.
Back2TheLight
What can be said about Freddie that hasn't been said before? A true legend, no doubt. Us as fans will always miss him, the music world suffered a tremendous loss when he passed as well, and the surviving members of Queen lost a brother. Freddie's family lost a son and a brother. The only thing Freddie missed out on is making more music, and watching the decline of the state of music as it is today. Having said this...
Winterspelt, I agree with the majority of your post, save the bit about John. To say he never gave a shit about Freddie's last days is absolutely untrue. Perhaps he wasn't as vocal about certain things as say Brian and Roger have. John was very close with Freddie and I think your remarks are a bit out of line about him. Just my 2 cents.
Winterspelt, I agree with the majority of your post, save the bit about John. To say he never gave a shit about Freddie's last days is absolutely untrue. Perhaps he wasn't as vocal about certain things as say Brian and Roger have. John was very close with Freddie and I think your remarks are a bit out of line about him. Just my 2 cents.
Costa86
Double post beneath...
Costa86
[QUOTE] [b]RafaelSomma wrote:[/b]
You can thank the english press for taking down Queen and making them look like a supeficial band because of Freddie's flamboyance and his larger than life persona. Instead of seeing the great musician he was (Roger has said it in interviews numerous times that Freddie was underrated has a musician. How can you write a song like TFFMS and not be a good writer/musician?)
Also for the British intelligentsia it was more important focusing in Freddie's being gay and how morally he was depraved (all the gay people in the 80s didn't use condoms and they still don't in the 2000s, which is worst now because we know more about the disease). For them Freddie's death was a proof that a man who lived like him had died because he had bad morals. So for the last 20 years Brian & Roger have tried to reestablish the legacy of Freddie and show how a wonderful musician and a good person he was despite not taking seriously the threat of Aids.
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I agree. Although Queen have a large fanbase and are generally regarded as one of the best British rock bands, they haven't received the same critical adulation from the music press which bands like The Beatles and Led Zeppelin have received. I feel that is unjustified, because 70s Queen are very nearly on par with Led Zeppelin in terms of musical ability.
You can thank the english press for taking down Queen and making them look like a supeficial band because of Freddie's flamboyance and his larger than life persona. Instead of seeing the great musician he was (Roger has said it in interviews numerous times that Freddie was underrated has a musician. How can you write a song like TFFMS and not be a good writer/musician?)
Also for the British intelligentsia it was more important focusing in Freddie's being gay and how morally he was depraved (all the gay people in the 80s didn't use condoms and they still don't in the 2000s, which is worst now because we know more about the disease). For them Freddie's death was a proof that a man who lived like him had died because he had bad morals. So for the last 20 years Brian & Roger have tried to reestablish the legacy of Freddie and show how a wonderful musician and a good person he was despite not taking seriously the threat of Aids.
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I agree. Although Queen have a large fanbase and are generally regarded as one of the best British rock bands, they haven't received the same critical adulation from the music press which bands like The Beatles and Led Zeppelin have received. I feel that is unjustified, because 70s Queen are very nearly on par with Led Zeppelin in terms of musical ability.
master marathon runner
Those remarks about John were unkind, ill informed and well below the belt.
RIP Freddie, we're still rocking to your great, throwaway, disposable songs.!
Best wishes John, if you're watching.
RIP Freddie, we're still rocking to your great, throwaway, disposable songs.!
Best wishes John, if you're watching.
winterspelt
[QUOTE] [b]master marathon runner wrote:[/b]
Those remarks about John were unkind, ill informed and well below the belt.
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Best wishes John, if you're watching.[/QUOTE]
They may be unkind but they are true. John didnt paid a visit to Freddie at all while he was dying. Even Brian (who wasnt Freddie's "best friend") did visited him from time to time. It is not ill informed, it was written by Jim Hutton, who lived with Freddie, and AFAIR, Peter Freestone wrote something like that (or told something about that in an interview, TBH I cant remember, but both guys did mentioned it)
Also, John have never made something to try to celebrate Freddie's music: He dont need to play once again, if he want to stay forever in his retirement its ok, nothing wrong with that, he dont even need to be in the spotlight, a simple video or an open letter on Queen's site are examples of who he could do something to honor Freddie.
Im not the kind of guy who likes personal attacks, I dont have anything against John, I love his music a lot! Its just that people tend to think their heroes are amazing, nice and loving friends with each other etc.
The truth is that they are humans too and they may see other band members not as a friends but as coworkers. Some of us may see their coworkers as true friends, some of us may not, there's nothing wrong with that.
Those remarks about John were unkind, ill informed and well below the belt.
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Best wishes John, if you're watching.[/QUOTE]
They may be unkind but they are true. John didnt paid a visit to Freddie at all while he was dying. Even Brian (who wasnt Freddie's "best friend") did visited him from time to time. It is not ill informed, it was written by Jim Hutton, who lived with Freddie, and AFAIR, Peter Freestone wrote something like that (or told something about that in an interview, TBH I cant remember, but both guys did mentioned it)
Also, John have never made something to try to celebrate Freddie's music: He dont need to play once again, if he want to stay forever in his retirement its ok, nothing wrong with that, he dont even need to be in the spotlight, a simple video or an open letter on Queen's site are examples of who he could do something to honor Freddie.
Im not the kind of guy who likes personal attacks, I dont have anything against John, I love his music a lot! Its just that people tend to think their heroes are amazing, nice and loving friends with each other etc.
The truth is that they are humans too and they may see other band members not as a friends but as coworkers. Some of us may see their coworkers as true friends, some of us may not, there's nothing wrong with that.
master marathon runner
It's ill informed in the sense that, we dont/didn't know John 's state of mind, his sensitives, how down and depressed he might have been, whether he was capable of seeing his great mate in his final decline.
We cannot judge sir!
We cannot judge sir!
winterspelt
I do understand and respect your point of view. None of us knows what happens/happened in John's head so its clear that in one way or another any of us may be right (or may be wrong) but at lest in my opinion, the evidence suggest that John simply dont care.
You know, most of the artists release open letters, statements etc that are not even written by them, but by their management, PR staff, etc I cant believe nobody in his office have a few minutes to write something for the Queen site. How many seconds could John spend in asking someone to write something about Freddie's passing? How many minutes can he spend listening drafts of the "JD's press release about Freddie"?
23 years and not a single word about Freddie written by him or his staff/family/QP staff/someone on his behalf, but he got time to criticize Queen+ Robbie William's WATC! Unbelievable! How can it be?
Brian has released lots of albums, tours, finished his degree, fight for badgers, write books, do interviews, Roger released lots of albums, tours, etc and still they or someone from their staff can find a few minutes to talk about Freddie!
I can understand that he just felt unable to deal with Freddie's death in the first few years, while the press was talking shit about Freddie, both Brian and Roger were there for Freddie, even Brian "the nice guy in rock" turned into some kind of bitter guy for the shit he was having in his personal life (and Queen) but still found strength to be there for Freddie! But no word from John or someone on his behalf, but as long as RW did a song, then he forgot he was retired and didnt liked the spotlight and suddenly he went to talk about the Q+RW WATC! Why, instead of talking about RW, used those precious little moments to celebrate his great friend Freddie, who was always there for him?
You know, most of the artists release open letters, statements etc that are not even written by them, but by their management, PR staff, etc I cant believe nobody in his office have a few minutes to write something for the Queen site. How many seconds could John spend in asking someone to write something about Freddie's passing? How many minutes can he spend listening drafts of the "JD's press release about Freddie"?
23 years and not a single word about Freddie written by him or his staff/family/QP staff/someone on his behalf, but he got time to criticize Queen+ Robbie William's WATC! Unbelievable! How can it be?
Brian has released lots of albums, tours, finished his degree, fight for badgers, write books, do interviews, Roger released lots of albums, tours, etc and still they or someone from their staff can find a few minutes to talk about Freddie!
I can understand that he just felt unable to deal with Freddie's death in the first few years, while the press was talking shit about Freddie, both Brian and Roger were there for Freddie, even Brian "the nice guy in rock" turned into some kind of bitter guy for the shit he was having in his personal life (and Queen) but still found strength to be there for Freddie! But no word from John or someone on his behalf, but as long as RW did a song, then he forgot he was retired and didnt liked the spotlight and suddenly he went to talk about the Q+RW WATC! Why, instead of talking about RW, used those precious little moments to celebrate his great friend Freddie, who was always there for him?
Costa86
My very biased, unfair, and, frankly, ridiculous opinion, given that I don't know John personally is:
The guy was always a bloody boring, introverted, square and awkward chap. He was good on the bass and wrote some hits, but other than that he would have faded away into nothing had he not had the luck of meeting the other three. He can't speak his feelings because he's a wet newspaper with an underdeveloped character - if he were a day, he'd be a rainy day in the western highlands of Scotland. I still love John though. Not as much as the other three, but close.
The guy was always a bloody boring, introverted, square and awkward chap. He was good on the bass and wrote some hits, but other than that he would have faded away into nothing had he not had the luck of meeting the other three. He can't speak his feelings because he's a wet newspaper with an underdeveloped character - if he were a day, he'd be a rainy day in the western highlands of Scotland. I still love John though. Not as much as the other three, but close.