The state of Queen today

I just want to get something off my chest. In all that I've read here I have seen a lot of you are very critical of Brian & Rogers activities recently. You criticize the tour and pretty much everything they do. Well let me say I am sick of it! They have in 40 years done a lot for you and they could easily use that as justification for retirement but no they still tour. Now why do they your for you! They aren't touring for the hell of it they are touring for you the fans who have been with them since the beginning who stuck with them after Freddie's death and Johns retirement. They don't have to your in 40 years they have made enough money that they could stop working completely and be set for life. But they still tour. I was at the East Rutheford show during the American tour this year and there were a lot of older fans. I know you feel self rightious for some stupid reason. But let me debunk a few of your reasons you all usually use.
1. Freddie wouldn't approve: You do realize Freddie wouldn't care right? He did say his songs were like tampons so I don't think he would care who sang them.

2. John left because of the Queen + projects: Now he did say he hated the Robbie Williams WWRY single but that's it. He didn't retire because of that. He retired because he was sick of the music business. He didn't expect Queen to go anywhere but look what happened. He was done he wanted to live in the shadows that's why!

3. It's not really Queen: I'll keep this one brief Guns N Roses. Axl Rose is the only original GnR member left in the new GnR. We still have 3 original members Roger,Brian,Spike. 2 of who are the FOUNDING MEMBERS!

So that is just a few. So all in all get over it when they are gone in a few years I am sure you will regret not seeing them one last time. So if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all. Finally I was not fortunate enough to be around to see the old lineup play but was lucky enough to get tickets for this tour. Say how "you didn't see the real Queen" all I can say is you are wrong I saw Brian and Roger perform with an excellent vocalist. Wasn't that what the original Queen was in esence?

MM12

[QUOTE] [b]Mercuryman12 wrote:[/b]

I just want to get something off my chest. In all that I've read here I have seen a lot of you are very critical of Brian & Rogers activities recently. You criticize the tour and pretty much everything they do. Well let me say I am sick of it! They have in 40 years done a lot for you and they could easily use that as justification for retirement but no they still tour. Now why do they your for you! They aren't touring for the hell of it they are touring for you the fans who have been with them since the beginning who stuck with them after Freddie's death and Johns retirement. They don't have to your in 40 years they have made enough money that they could stop working completely and be set for life. But they still tour.
MM12[/QUOTE]

Brian and Roger have the total right to tour as they like, when they like, with anyone they like. But please do not tell me they are touring for the sake of their fans!!! They are performers. Performing is what they do. They have been huge in the past and would like a bit of that spotlight to shine on them again. To remain relevant. To feel the applause again. And why not? Let them have their last hurrah.
You can either go see the show or not. That is up to each individual. I have absolutely no interest in this collaboration; I'd much prefer to view BM and RT as vibrant and amazing, with Freddie and John in the line-up instead of this caricature of their former selves. So, hello YouTube.

Some good points there........especially the one about GnR..........I think Queen + AL is more like Queen than GnR is like the old GnR! lol.......

Honestly its NOT Queen........its Queen + Adam........I enjoy it for what it is: Brian and Roger playing the songs I love with a hell of a singer, and some good backup musicians......nothing wrong with that! :D

Spike is not a Queen member.

I've got nothing against Brian and Roger collaborating with Justin Bieber, Shakira, Chenoweth or the entire cast from Frozen if they feel like it. They can jolly well do whatever they want to with their time and I couldn't really care less about whether Freddie or John would approve or not.

The point is, for some people, this is exciting, and that's great. For others, me included, it's not. I'd rather watch 'Rainbow' and await a Brian solo box-set.

People who like the tour with Adam, or who liked the tour with Paul, etc., are more than welcome to express their joy. So are others, me included, if we want to state that we're far more excited about 'Rainbow' or 'Brixton.'

[QUOTE] [b]Sebastian wrote:[/b]

Spike is not a Queen member.

I've got nothing against Brian and Roger collaborating with Justin Bieber, Shakira, Chenoweth or the entire cast from Frozen if they feel like it. They can jolly well do whatever they want to with their time and I couldn't really care less about whether Freddie or John would approve or not.

The point is, for some people, this is exciting, and that's great. For others, me included, it's not. I'd rather watch 'Rainbow' and await a Brian solo box-set.

People who like the tour with Adam, or who liked the tour with Paul, etc., are more than welcome to express their joy. So are others, me included, if we want to state that we're far more excited about 'Rainbow' or 'Brixton.'[/QUOTE]

This was not directed to people like you I meant the ones who try to change our minds like that Gerry guy

"Rainbow". The show with Zippy and Bungle? I'd rather watch that too lol.

I'll be going to see Q+AL on Wednesday night. I'm not a fan of AL, and I've lost the plot with Roger, but I cannot wait to hear the good doctor let rip on the guitar. That's my reason for going - to hear good music played well (hopefully).

Yeah, but aren't you kinda doing the same through your message? Whether you're trying to persuade others of the alleged legitimacy of a new collaboration, or someone else is trying to convince others of the alleged insincerity of their action, the point is the same.

[QUOTE] [b]Sebastian wrote:[/b]

Yeah, but aren't you kinda doing the same through your message? Whether you're trying to persuade others of the alleged legitimacy of a new collaboration, or someone else is trying to convince others of the alleged insincerity of their action, the point is the same.[/QUOTE]

Forgive me if my intent seemed to be directed that way. My intent was to vent my frustrations

correct bandname is: Taylor + May + Glambert playing the songs of "Queen"

Almost all of your ridiculous points were already commented on, but I'd also like to discuss your deiberate misunderstanding of the disposable (tampon) quote.

When Freddie mentioned tampons in a 1984 interview, he was talking about him (and Queen) getting over a particular recording of theirs, and thinking about their new work instead. It had absolutely nothing to do with who was singing the songs. He simply couldn't think of a future where there would be a Queen without him.


If you still want to use the tampon imagery with Queen of today, you would be talking about a bunch of old grannies digging in the landfill to find their used tampons because they want to relive their youth, and don't want to buy new ones. It's not a pretty image, is it? :P

[QUOTE] [b]Mr. Bed Guy wrote:[/b]

correct bandname is: Taylor + May + Glambert playing the songs of "Queen"[/QUOTE]

I didn't realize you were an authority on the matter and have veto power over what the founding members of Queen can do with their name. After all these years of debate, thanks for clearing that up.

Brian and Roger have the full right to do anything they want. We have the full right to agree with it or criticise it

Those who like the original line up can watch the DVDs and listen to the CDs... I DO
Those who enjoy seeing a new band called "Queen + AL" will be glad to get a ticked... I DO TOO.
There's something for everyone. Those who enjoy both the above options will be very happy. I've seem Q+AL twice and both shows were amazing.

However, I'm sure no one is happier than Brian, Roger and Adam to go on tour...Take a look at their performance of CLTCL in Japan...That's pure joy...Brian is running with his bionic knee, smile in his face...they look like kids. That's why they should do wherever they want...They will soon be unable to play...All of us, Queen fans, can be happy with what we've got or complain about it. I understand that all the complaining can be annoying but in the end of the day it doesn't really matter...It's all about the music and I'm glad I had the chance to see an amazing performance of TSMGO in LA...That's that kind of feeling that DVDs can't create.

I'm delighted Queen plus AL are touring, going to see them in London in Feb.

I totally understand that some people don't like Adam Lambert as a performer or singer. That's fine, that's an opinion, and personal tastes are valid, right?

There are others though who perhaps just can't bear to see a version of Queen performing without Freddie or John, and have elevated the old band line-up (particularly Freddie) to a divine status which he wouldn't have wanted and doesn't actually deserve (Freddie was a wonderful human, but come on, he was hardly shooting lightening bolts from his eyes, much as it felt like he could when he sang!).

For me it's about hearing the music live, and having two of the original members playing, which is better than hearing any tribute band.

Quoting Freddie about what he would have thought of this exercise isn't really that useful, because he was the master of putting himself down and disguising what he really felt. He was very rarely candid in interviews was he? He was always coming out with one-liners that were quite funny and were quite useful for protecting himself in an uncomfortable situation.

Whether Freddie would like Adam Lambert singing his stuff or not, I think he'd be very, very proud to see legions of fans, many of whom were born after he died, turning out to see a band who haven't had any new music in the charts for about 20 years, who were never cool, who have somehow - despite an absolute thrashing from the press and anyone who regards themselves as knowledgable about the music scene and what we 'should' be living - Freddie would be proud to see that the brand and band he created, and the songs he wrote, still meant so much to so many, in real terms, that they're willing to spend a large amount of cash on a night out to feel close to Queen, and his music. Many of us who are going to see the gig are not really going to see Adam Lambert - we accept that he is the singer (and I think he's doing a sterling job, I know many of you disagree - fair enough), but we are really going to experience Queen - Brian and Roger - giving us a night to remember for the rest of our lives.

John has left, and it's unlikely he will come back to Queen (you never know, but he most probably won't!), and Freddie certainly won't come back - not while he's on tour with Jimi Hendrix at least - and for those of us who would have loved to have seen Queen in their heyday that's a real drag, but at least we can have this experience.

I don't really care what Brian and Roger's motivation is for this tour. It could be money, but they're at the stage where an extra million or ten won't actually make much difference to their quality of life, at all. It could be for adulation - that's likely, that's fine - they have it inside their hearts to be in a super group after all. It could be that they want to give a gift to their fans and give them Queen after 25, 30 years of not being Queen on tour with Freddie. It could be that they have got to a point where they feel they have to perform - they are musicians after all. It could be all of these things.

Whatever the reason is, I'm going to go and see the show, and I'm going to enjoy it.

I do understand why people don't like Adam Lambert, and people throw around this word 'legacy', but for me, that word 'legacy' doesn't really matter in terms of whether they are touring or not at the moment. The tour is simply to deliver the music to people who want to hear it live. The actual legacy is in the songs themselves.

/To deliver the music, that's right.
Got nothing against Adam, best o' luck to the lad, he's been given a golden opportunity and nobody can blame him for grabbing it with both hands.
. But thre are those amongst us, me included, who do not want this , yes we were lucky enough to be around and witness the classic Queen, and maybe that's the problem, once you've had the best blah blah blah, .. But if you're for it, go out and savour it, hope you enjoy it