The King Of Rhye
miraclesteinway........freakin brilliant post, I wish I had written that ;)
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Vocal harmony
I was lucky enough to have been around in the 70's and 80's to se Queen many times. But I also feel lucky to have had the chance to see them since then through the work they did with Paul Rodgers and now Adam Lambert.
The narrow minded view of some people is strange, because in years to come so many will look back at this tour and realise the lost chance they had of seeing Queen one last time.
There is no disrespect in performing with another singer, and there is no disrespect touring with out John. Many many bands go through lineup changes for all kinds of reasons, it just seems that some Queen "fans" seem to have a problem with this and act like they are some kind of art or music police up holding an un written law which prevents this band and audience moving on from 1991.
The narrow minded view of some people is strange, because in years to come so many will look back at this tour and realise the lost chance they had of seeing Queen one last time.
There is no disrespect in performing with another singer, and there is no disrespect touring with out John. Many many bands go through lineup changes for all kinds of reasons, it just seems that some Queen "fans" seem to have a problem with this and act like they are some kind of art or music police up holding an un written law which prevents this band and audience moving on from 1991.
Hoopsie
For me it boils down to simple facts.
Would I prefer to go see Queen with Freddie and John?
Fuck yes.
But that is not possible in this world.
Repeat.
UN- POSSIBLE.
If I want to see and hear Brian and Roger play live this is what I have available.
So I'll take it and be happy about it.
The end.
No amount of wishing or whining or bitching about life will change the plain and simple facts.
See them or don't see them, it's up to you- I understand both sides.
What I do not understand is the incessant bitching about it.
Would I prefer to go see Queen with Freddie and John?
Fuck yes.
But that is not possible in this world.
Repeat.
UN- POSSIBLE.
If I want to see and hear Brian and Roger play live this is what I have available.
So I'll take it and be happy about it.
The end.
No amount of wishing or whining or bitching about life will change the plain and simple facts.
See them or don't see them, it's up to you- I understand both sides.
What I do not understand is the incessant bitching about it.
Costa86
I was thinking about this the other day.
I think we should be happy Brian and Roger are still active, and perform under the "Queen" name. A time will come when they no longer will perform. I never got to see the "real" Queen, I was too young, having been born in 1986. But at least I can see Brian and Roger live, performing as Queen.
I don't agree with their choice of singer. I honestly can't stand Adam Lambert's singing. I wish they had chosen a different singer. Paul Rodgers was better, I think. But despite this, I feel fortunate that at least Queen still do live shows. The Beatles broke up in 1970, and any fan who didn't see them when they were together, can't see them at all, in any incarnation.
For a real fan, even with Lambert singing, the fact that Brian and Roger are doing a show, with the beautiful Queen crest on the bass drum, makes it all worth it.
I think we should be happy Brian and Roger are still active, and perform under the "Queen" name. A time will come when they no longer will perform. I never got to see the "real" Queen, I was too young, having been born in 1986. But at least I can see Brian and Roger live, performing as Queen.
I don't agree with their choice of singer. I honestly can't stand Adam Lambert's singing. I wish they had chosen a different singer. Paul Rodgers was better, I think. But despite this, I feel fortunate that at least Queen still do live shows. The Beatles broke up in 1970, and any fan who didn't see them when they were together, can't see them at all, in any incarnation.
For a real fan, even with Lambert singing, the fact that Brian and Roger are doing a show, with the beautiful Queen crest on the bass drum, makes it all worth it.
Vocal harmony
They are much more comfortable touring with Lambert, they are functioning as a band and have more of a Queen feel.
With Rodgers, who I like as a singer, there was a them and him feeling and for large parts if the shows RT and BM were members of Rodgers backing band.
If all had been well in that line up they'd still be touring now.
With Rodgers, who I like as a singer, there was a them and him feeling and for large parts if the shows RT and BM were members of Rodgers backing band.
If all had been well in that line up they'd still be touring now.
Heavenite
I got to see Queen + AL after missing out on seeing Freddie years ago. It may not have been as good as Freddie, based on the recorded live performances I have seen, but it was damn good seeing Brian cut loose. And Rog was fine with his son up there. And while the creative power of one Freddie Mercury was missing, my impression is that AL does a much better impersonation than PR. I count myself very lucky for seeing that tour.
LucasDiego
It´s nice to see Brian and Roger playing with Queen name around the world, but for my opinion, i think that Adam is not the right person to be the vocalist, but if Brian and Roger like him, my opinion is nothing for them, so good luck for them!
miraclesteinway
Thanks King of Rhye!
One point about the PR tour was that it really was a Queen plus Paul Rodgers, and I got the impression that Paul Rodgers was kind of doing them a favour by stepping in, although I guess it wasn't really quite like that. The set list though, was mainly Queen with some PR/Free/Bad Company things thrown in, almost paying lip service to the fact that there was this established artist, a great singer, fronting the band that he wasn't really anything to do with. What I mean is that for all its plus points, it felt like Paul Rodgers was a hired hand grafted into the Queen lineup, and it wasn't really about Paul Rodgers at all. I don't think Brian and Roger were all that comfortable playing PR songs either, to be honest, although of course they did it well.
With Adam Lambert, it is most definitely, at least in spirit, trying to be a full on Queen show. We all know and understand that Adam Lambert isn't really a member of Queen, and as far as I have seen there are no Adam Lambert songs in the set list - which there could have been if it was going to go along the same lines as Queen plus PR. Since Adam Lambert is not as established an act as Paul Rodgers, it's easier for Brian and Roger to say 'we've got this gig for you, but it's our gig, for our fans, and we want you to sing for us'. Which young singer, at the start of their career, wouldn't jump at that chance? I would (if I was a rock singer at that stage of my career. Somehow I might have missed the boat on that one ;-) )
Anyway these points I'm making are not meant to be criticisms about either tour, they're just my observations.
I have a genuine question to those who don't like Adam Lambert - including and especially Gerry. What would you like to see? Would you like to see Queen, as a unit, no longer on the road? Would you like to see Queen touring with John and a different singer? If so, who?
Not that it'll make much difference answering these questions, because I'm guessing that Queen will use AL whenever they want to do any other concert in the future, if they continue to operate after this tour.
One point about the PR tour was that it really was a Queen plus Paul Rodgers, and I got the impression that Paul Rodgers was kind of doing them a favour by stepping in, although I guess it wasn't really quite like that. The set list though, was mainly Queen with some PR/Free/Bad Company things thrown in, almost paying lip service to the fact that there was this established artist, a great singer, fronting the band that he wasn't really anything to do with. What I mean is that for all its plus points, it felt like Paul Rodgers was a hired hand grafted into the Queen lineup, and it wasn't really about Paul Rodgers at all. I don't think Brian and Roger were all that comfortable playing PR songs either, to be honest, although of course they did it well.
With Adam Lambert, it is most definitely, at least in spirit, trying to be a full on Queen show. We all know and understand that Adam Lambert isn't really a member of Queen, and as far as I have seen there are no Adam Lambert songs in the set list - which there could have been if it was going to go along the same lines as Queen plus PR. Since Adam Lambert is not as established an act as Paul Rodgers, it's easier for Brian and Roger to say 'we've got this gig for you, but it's our gig, for our fans, and we want you to sing for us'. Which young singer, at the start of their career, wouldn't jump at that chance? I would (if I was a rock singer at that stage of my career. Somehow I might have missed the boat on that one ;-) )
Anyway these points I'm making are not meant to be criticisms about either tour, they're just my observations.
I have a genuine question to those who don't like Adam Lambert - including and especially Gerry. What would you like to see? Would you like to see Queen, as a unit, no longer on the road? Would you like to see Queen touring with John and a different singer? If so, who?
Not that it'll make much difference answering these questions, because I'm guessing that Queen will use AL whenever they want to do any other concert in the future, if they continue to operate after this tour.
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]Hoopsie wrote:[/b]
What I do not understand is the incessant bitching about it.[/QUOTE]
Because some people like hearing the sound of their own voices and have nothing better to do than feel like they're somehow contributing to something by typing on a keyboard. Like petulant children, shout loud enough and often enough and hopefully someone will listen. Didn't Einstein say the definition of insanity was doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result?
15 years ago most Queen fans would've killed to see Brian and Roger in *any* capacity. Do we remember the excitement of 2001.11.24, and 2002.04.30 ? Even though they played just a few songs each night? We really do have short memories.
And now they're playing a full-on Queen type show with songs from just about every album. Tomorrow they're beginning what may well be their final tour. And plenty of so-called hardcore Queen fans are opting out of seeing half of their favourite band perform their favourite music live. Oh well - they're making it easier for others to get tickets. Silver lining in the black cloud, right?
What I do not understand is the incessant bitching about it.[/QUOTE]
Because some people like hearing the sound of their own voices and have nothing better to do than feel like they're somehow contributing to something by typing on a keyboard. Like petulant children, shout loud enough and often enough and hopefully someone will listen. Didn't Einstein say the definition of insanity was doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result?
15 years ago most Queen fans would've killed to see Brian and Roger in *any* capacity. Do we remember the excitement of 2001.11.24, and 2002.04.30 ? Even though they played just a few songs each night? We really do have short memories.
And now they're playing a full-on Queen type show with songs from just about every album. Tomorrow they're beginning what may well be their final tour. And plenty of so-called hardcore Queen fans are opting out of seeing half of their favourite band perform their favourite music live. Oh well - they're making it easier for others to get tickets. Silver lining in the black cloud, right?
tero! 48531
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
15 years ago most Queen fans would've killed to see Brian and Roger in *any* capacity. Do we remember the excitement of 2001.11.24, and 2002.04.30 ? Even though they played just a few songs each night? We really do have short memories.
[/QUOTE]
15 years ago Brian and Roger hadn't performed together as Queen for quite a while, but that's not the case anymore.
Quite a lot of people have seen "Queen" play in the past decade, and realised that it's not the same Queen it used to be with Freddie, which they were thinking of.
It's okay to say the current lineup is shit, and it's okay to say their great.
It isn't okay to say that some people have the wrong opinion about it.
15 years ago most Queen fans would've killed to see Brian and Roger in *any* capacity. Do we remember the excitement of 2001.11.24, and 2002.04.30 ? Even though they played just a few songs each night? We really do have short memories.
[/QUOTE]
15 years ago Brian and Roger hadn't performed together as Queen for quite a while, but that's not the case anymore.
Quite a lot of people have seen "Queen" play in the past decade, and realised that it's not the same Queen it used to be with Freddie, which they were thinking of.
It's okay to say the current lineup is shit, and it's okay to say their great.
It isn't okay to say that some people have the wrong opinion about it.
Sebastian
Exactly:
Liking the tour = Absolutely fine.
Disliking the tour = Absolutely fine.
Regarding Maylor as Queen = Absolutely fine.
Regarding Maylor as something different = Absolutely fine.
Saying Adam's magnificent = Absolutely fine.
Saying Adam's pants = Absolutely fine.
Wanting Maylor to stay active = Absolutely fine.
Wanting Maylor to retire = Absolutely fine.
Trying to force other people to share the same opinion, whether it's positive or negarive = Absolutely not fine.
Claiming what people 'should' think or not = Absolutely not fine.
Liking the tour = Absolutely fine.
Disliking the tour = Absolutely fine.
Regarding Maylor as Queen = Absolutely fine.
Regarding Maylor as something different = Absolutely fine.
Saying Adam's magnificent = Absolutely fine.
Saying Adam's pants = Absolutely fine.
Wanting Maylor to stay active = Absolutely fine.
Wanting Maylor to retire = Absolutely fine.
Trying to force other people to share the same opinion, whether it's positive or negarive = Absolutely not fine.
Claiming what people 'should' think or not = Absolutely not fine.
Oscar J
Adam's pants!
Get Gary Cherone on lead and I'll be on the first flight to the show.
Get Gary Cherone on lead and I'll be on the first flight to the show.
softcalavera2
I think that Queen + ....is perfect for me...i prefer see Brian and Roger Live, than nothing.....If there will be a Queen + Justin Biever, i will go to see them, but only for see Brian and Roger...I am 33 years old and from Argentina.....i couldnt see Freddie...so...."Queen + ..." is too much for me and i´m very happy.
It´s a very good "Queen moment" with: Box set, new songs, Live gigs, books etc.
It´s a very good "Queen moment" with: Box set, new songs, Live gigs, books etc.
The King Of Rhye
[QUOTE] [b]Sebastian wrote:[/b]
Saying Adam's magnificent = Absolutely fine.
Saying Adam's pants = Absolutely fine.
[/QUOTE]
What about saying Adam's pants are magnificent? :P
Excuse me, I've been reading too many comments from Glamberts on youtube again........
Saying Adam's magnificent = Absolutely fine.
Saying Adam's pants = Absolutely fine.
[/QUOTE]
What about saying Adam's pants are magnificent? :P
Excuse me, I've been reading too many comments from Glamberts on youtube again........
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]tero! 48531 wrote:[/b]
15 years ago Brian and Roger hadn't performed together as Queen for quite a while, but that's not the case anymore.
Quite a lot of people have seen "Queen" play in the past decade, and realised that it's not the same Queen it used to be with Freddie, which they were thinking of.[/QUOTE]
Of course. Fair play.
But really, did anyone think it would be the same?
Is any band the same even as the years pass by, never mind whether or not there are membership changes?
Of course, everyone's entitled to think whatever they want to think. But the amount of hatred spewed at two members of Queen because they want to play concerts is just dumbfounding.
15 years ago Brian and Roger hadn't performed together as Queen for quite a while, but that's not the case anymore.
Quite a lot of people have seen "Queen" play in the past decade, and realised that it's not the same Queen it used to be with Freddie, which they were thinking of.[/QUOTE]
Of course. Fair play.
But really, did anyone think it would be the same?
Is any band the same even as the years pass by, never mind whether or not there are membership changes?
Of course, everyone's entitled to think whatever they want to think. But the amount of hatred spewed at two members of Queen because they want to play concerts is just dumbfounding.