No apology from me ...
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25176287/text-messages-in-deflategate-report-point-finger-towards-three-individuals
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Saint Jiub
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mooghead
"Deflategate's Textgate: Pats staffers' texts paint picture of Brady's role"
It is like someone has leant on the keyboard...?!!?!?
It is like someone has leant on the keyboard...?!!?!?
The King Of Rhye
Ah, the true legacy of the Nixon administration: The creation of the suffix "-gate" to denote a scandal! :p
thomasquinn 32989
That does rank among the Nixon-administration's least damaging legacies.
brENsKi
[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]
That does rank among the Nixon-administration's least damaging legacies.[/QUOTE]
not really. esp when you consider that that one "gate" was the only one that ever counted. i'd say impeachment is anything but "least damaging"
as regards Panchgani and his fixation with the Patriots (he did make similar comments three months or so ago) - i'd suggest he's a fan of a hugely inferior team, and therefore choking on his own jealously.
haters gonna hate eh?
That does rank among the Nixon-administration's least damaging legacies.[/QUOTE]
not really. esp when you consider that that one "gate" was the only one that ever counted. i'd say impeachment is anything but "least damaging"
as regards Panchgani and his fixation with the Patriots (he did make similar comments three months or so ago) - i'd suggest he's a fan of a hugely inferior team, and therefore choking on his own jealously.
haters gonna hate eh?
Saint Jiub
I recall someone demanding an apology WHEN (not if) the Patriots were absolved of all wrongdoing. Well it looks like the demanded apology is not needed...
There seems to be a lot of jealous people who are fans of an inferior team, as virtually everyone outside of Boston is glad that New England will at least get a slap on the wrist.
There seems to be a lot of jealous people who are fans of an inferior team, as virtually everyone outside of Boston is glad that New England will at least get a slap on the wrist.
brENsKi
[QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]
I recall someone demanding an apology WHEN (not if) the Patriots were absolved of all wrongdoing. Well it looks like the demanded apology is not needed...
There seems to be a lot of jealous people who are fans of an inferior team, as virtually everyone outside of Boston is glad that New England will at least get a slap on the wrist.[/QUOTE]
think you're counting your chickens a little early there, pilgrim. i'm not saying you're NOT right - just NOT right yet. there's still things to be resolved. Brady can afford good legal support (if he wants to make it personal) - his Agent has already suggested where this could be going next and he (Brady) was head of the players' collective bargaining unit ...so he will have plenty of players' union support.
Nothing anywhere in the Wells' Report has said he did it. because Wells' organisation are noddy-dogs who produce a report without any factual evidence - time and again for the NFL.
think about this:
1] the Ref Walt Anderson is apparently above reproach - so he says the balls were correct when he last saw them, but cannot produce anything to say exactly what the weights/pressures were - yet his word is good enough
2] Brady gives evidence for 1½ days and not a word of his evidence is printed
make no mistake, the NFL will hit Brady hard - and it won't be because of guilt/factual evidence - it'll be because Goodell's tenure with the league is on thin ice and he has to be seen to strong. so it's ok to issue a punishment without proven guilt. The NFL must be so proud.
agenda? maybe just a little
I recall someone demanding an apology WHEN (not if) the Patriots were absolved of all wrongdoing. Well it looks like the demanded apology is not needed...
There seems to be a lot of jealous people who are fans of an inferior team, as virtually everyone outside of Boston is glad that New England will at least get a slap on the wrist.[/QUOTE]
think you're counting your chickens a little early there, pilgrim. i'm not saying you're NOT right - just NOT right yet. there's still things to be resolved. Brady can afford good legal support (if he wants to make it personal) - his Agent has already suggested where this could be going next and he (Brady) was head of the players' collective bargaining unit ...so he will have plenty of players' union support.
Nothing anywhere in the Wells' Report has said he did it. because Wells' organisation are noddy-dogs who produce a report without any factual evidence - time and again for the NFL.
think about this:
1] the Ref Walt Anderson is apparently above reproach - so he says the balls were correct when he last saw them, but cannot produce anything to say exactly what the weights/pressures were - yet his word is good enough
2] Brady gives evidence for 1½ days and not a word of his evidence is printed
make no mistake, the NFL will hit Brady hard - and it won't be because of guilt/factual evidence - it'll be because Goodell's tenure with the league is on thin ice and he has to be seen to strong. so it's ok to issue a punishment without proven guilt. The NFL must be so proud.
agenda? maybe just a little
brENsKi
well as i said above - they hit him hard:
4 game suspension
and team get $1m fine, plus 1st rnd pick in 2016 and 4th rnd pick in 2017.
this just got interesting
the "no Brady, no banner" campaign could embarrass the NFL on opening day. and make no mistake - he/and the club will definitely appeal/sue
4 game suspension
and team get $1m fine, plus 1st rnd pick in 2016 and 4th rnd pick in 2017.
this just got interesting
the "no Brady, no banner" campaign could embarrass the NFL on opening day. and make no mistake - he/and the club will definitely appeal/sue
The King Of Rhye
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
well as i said above - they hit him hard:
4 game suspension
and team get $1m fine, plus 1st rnd pick in 2016 and 4th rnd pick in 2017.
this just got interesting
the "no Brady, no banner" campaign could embarrass the NFL on opening day. and make no mistake - he/and the club will definitely appeal/sue[/QUOTE]
That really surprised me! Guess the NFL wants people to know they aint messing around..........something I just thought of: who gets that pick? Someone has to, right?
well as i said above - they hit him hard:
4 game suspension
and team get $1m fine, plus 1st rnd pick in 2016 and 4th rnd pick in 2017.
this just got interesting
the "no Brady, no banner" campaign could embarrass the NFL on opening day. and make no mistake - he/and the club will definitely appeal/sue[/QUOTE]
That really surprised me! Guess the NFL wants people to know they aint messing around..........something I just thought of: who gets that pick? Someone has to, right?
musicland munich
Wonder how long you get banned for using steroids ( snicker snicker)...
brENsKi
...or more importantly - spousal abuse /child beating...and other more serious offences
read on
[b]Ray Rice[/b] The offense: Assault on now-wife Janay Rice.The punishment: [b]Two-game suspension[/b], upped to an indefinite ban after release of video footage of incident. Rice won an appeal and was reinstated on Dec. 1.
[b]Adrian Peterson[/b] The offense: Child abuse. The punishment: Indefinite suspension by Vikings, upheld by the league, [b]Peterson was later reinstated.
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[b]The Cleveland Browns The offense[/b]: General manager sent text messages in-game to team sideline personnel. The punishment: GM Ray Farmer fined four games, [b]team fined $250,000
[/b]
[b]The Atlanta Falcons[/b] The offense: Pumping fake crowd noise into the Georgia Dome. The punishment: Loss of fifth-round draft pick in 2016,[b] team fined $350,000[/b], Falcons president Rich McKay out as NFL’s spokesperson for the competition committee.
[b]Ben Roethlisberger[/b] The offense: Sexual assault allegations in 2010. The punishment: [b]Six games.[/b]
and finally, just for comparison sake:
[b]The Minnesota Vikings [/b]The offense: Vikings sideline attendants last season heated game balls during a cold November game.The punishment: [b]League warned teams of the rule prohibiting such acts.[/b]
[b]Caroline Panthers[/b] (also) Last season, The Offence: were caught, on a cold day, using sideline heaters to warm up footballs - punishment: [b]warned by League.[/b]
compare the above to:
[b]Tom Brady [/b]the offence: "being aware that footballs were tampered with" (unproven). [b]banned 4 games[/b], team [b]fined £1m[/b], fined 1st Rnd draft pick 2016 and 4th rnd draft pick 2017.
read on
[b]Ray Rice[/b] The offense: Assault on now-wife Janay Rice.The punishment: [b]Two-game suspension[/b], upped to an indefinite ban after release of video footage of incident. Rice won an appeal and was reinstated on Dec. 1.
[b]Adrian Peterson[/b] The offense: Child abuse. The punishment: Indefinite suspension by Vikings, upheld by the league, [b]Peterson was later reinstated.
[/b]
[b]The Cleveland Browns The offense[/b]: General manager sent text messages in-game to team sideline personnel. The punishment: GM Ray Farmer fined four games, [b]team fined $250,000
[/b]
[b]The Atlanta Falcons[/b] The offense: Pumping fake crowd noise into the Georgia Dome. The punishment: Loss of fifth-round draft pick in 2016,[b] team fined $350,000[/b], Falcons president Rich McKay out as NFL’s spokesperson for the competition committee.
[b]Ben Roethlisberger[/b] The offense: Sexual assault allegations in 2010. The punishment: [b]Six games.[/b]
and finally, just for comparison sake:
[b]The Minnesota Vikings [/b]The offense: Vikings sideline attendants last season heated game balls during a cold November game.The punishment: [b]League warned teams of the rule prohibiting such acts.[/b]
[b]Caroline Panthers[/b] (also) Last season, The Offence: were caught, on a cold day, using sideline heaters to warm up footballs - punishment: [b]warned by League.[/b]
compare the above to:
[b]Tom Brady [/b]the offence: "being aware that footballs were tampered with" (unproven). [b]banned 4 games[/b], team [b]fined £1m[/b], fined 1st Rnd draft pick 2016 and 4th rnd draft pick 2017.
Saint Jiub
Patriot's coach Bill Belacheat - Fined $500,000 for Spygate in 2007.
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Regardless of ones opinion as to whether the punishment fits the crime, the evidence againts Brady looks very damning ...
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/ct-tom-brady-ted-wells-20150512-story.html
"Wells specifically mentioned two series of text exchanges between officials' locker room attendant Jim McNally and equipment assistant John Jastremski. In one, McNally referred to himself as "the Deflator" and joked about going to ESPN. In another, Jastremski mentioned speaking to Brady the previous night, saying the quarterback knew McNally was stressed out by needing to deflate the balls."
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Regardless of ones opinion as to whether the punishment fits the crime, the evidence againts Brady looks very damning ...
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/ct-tom-brady-ted-wells-20150512-story.html
"Wells specifically mentioned two series of text exchanges between officials' locker room attendant Jim McNally and equipment assistant John Jastremski. In one, McNally referred to himself as "the Deflator" and joked about going to ESPN. In another, Jastremski mentioned speaking to Brady the previous night, saying the quarterback knew McNally was stressed out by needing to deflate the balls."
brENsKi
http://wellsreportcontext.com/
Saint Jiub
http://time.com/3849688/deflategate-text-messages-patriots-tom-brady/
brENsKi
i can see yo're not going to give up are you?
so consider this.
if someone said that "you were more probably than not aware of a crime being committed"
1] were you actually aware?
2] can this be proved?
3] what crime have you committed?
answer honestly
so consider this.
if someone said that "you were more probably than not aware of a crime being committed"
1] were you actually aware?
2] can this be proved?
3] what crime have you committed?
answer honestly