nice one. in a succinct reply you managed to sum up perfectly the farcical approach the NFL have taken to this...and the childish approach of teams like the Colts and the Ravens....sir, you're a legend
that alone proves that you're nothing but a jealous hate-ridden sub-normal baiter.... without any doubt at all you're a fan of a loser-classless team - probably JESTs or FISH
and it also underlines why my decision to stop debating the appeal/case with you is 100% the right thing to do. you cannot have meaningful discourse/debate with a moron... and you are bearing all the attributes of an A* moron
much nicer (and less willing to argue with you) people than me - have had some fallouts with you here...you really do behave like a moron of the first order.
go home - your village has been missing you
brENsKi · Member since
[url=http://www.inquisitr.com/2169825/new-england-patriots-rumors-wells-report]http://www.inquisitr.com/2169825/new-england-patriots-rumors-wells-report[/url]/ The latest “Deflategate” rumors around the New England Patriots center around a new study by a respected Washington think-tank, the American Enterprise Institute, that could lead to NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell throwing out the four-game suspension against the Patriots future Hall of Fame quarterback, Tom Brady. But critics of the Wells Report, including the Patriots themselves in their own study titled The Wells Report In Context, argue that Wells made serious errors, and the Patriots footballs used in the AFC Championship game against the Indianapolis Colts were not deflated at all — at least, not deliberately by human hands. The study by AEI — a research institute devoted largely to conservative political causes — is the first truly independent, full analysis of the Deflategate controversy, because AEI was not hired either by the NFL or the New England Patriots to carry out the study. “We have no financial stake in the outcome of Deflategate,” the report’s authors made clear. An earlier AEI report on the New Orleans Saints “Bountygate” scandal played a part in the tossing aside of several suspensions in that case. “Contrary to the report, the significant difference between the changes in pressure of the two teams’ balls was not because the pressure of the Patriots balls was too low,” the AEI researchers wrote in a New York Times summary of their findings, “but because that of the Colts balls was too high.” The entire AEI report may be downloaded in PDF format at this link. While Goodell refused a request by the NFL Players Association to step aside from Brady’s appeal hearing, set for June 23, he also said that “my mind is open” and that he could be persuaded by “new information or evidence.” “Goodell will have to admit that he hired an investigator who did a poor job. Which would mean that Goodell did a poor job in hiring Ted Wells,” wrote NFL expert Mike Florio of the NBC-owned Pro Football Talk site. “Which could mean that Goodell will give no credence to the findings of AEI.” While it’s all just rumors and speculation at this point, after June 23 the New England Patriots should know whether they will have Tom Brady on the field when September 10 rolls around as they open the NFL season against the Pittsburgh Steelers. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ [url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/roger-i-abrams/the-end-of-deflategate_b_7588112.html]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/roger-i-abrams/the-end-of-deflategate_b_7588112.html[/url] [b]The End of Deflategate[/b] Posted: 06/15/2015 2:45 pm EDT Updated: 06/15/2015 4:59 pm EDT As Tiger Woods once said, "Sensationalism sells: Don't let the facts get in the way of a good story." A Patriots conspiracy was a good story. The media never let the facts get in the way. Troy Vincent, the NFL's Executive VP of Football Operations, did likewise and suspended future Hall of Fame quarterback Tom Brady for one quarter of the 2015 football season. Assuming someone actually read the entire Wells Report, its legalistic parts focused the attention of readers on the quantum of proof issue under the NFL Rules. It correctly applied the appropriate "preponderance of the evidence" standard, although it ultimately reached a conclusion that was less than resounding. Tom Brady, the Report said, was "at least generally aware of the inappropriate activities" of locker room attendant Jim McNally and equipment assistant John Jastremski. The Deflategate controversy comes to a welcomed conclusion on June 23 when Commissioner Goodell will receive evidence presented by Tom Brady's attorney, Jeff Kessler. American Enterprise Institute, the Washington-based, right-wing think tank. The AEI's full report is available online, but its conclusion is the equivalent of a completed 75-yard Hail Mary pass. The AEI, which certainly has no political agenda in this football dispute, concludes that the Wells Report is "deeply flawed." Anyone who read the Wells Report and the Goldberg response had already reached that conclusion. What is particularly telling about the AEI's study is that it offers an alternate explanation for the actual facts. As readers of a certain age certainly remember, Deep Throat advised Woodward and Bernstein to "follow the money." Regarding the Deflategate contretemps, the more appropriate maxim is to "follow the science." The science in the Wells Report is unsound. That is exactly what Patriots owner Bob Kraft told the press back in January after he consulted with a Nobel Prize winner on the faculty of M.I.T. Commissioner Goodell might need a neutral expert to explain the methodology used by the various scientists who are involved in this scrum, but his ultimate conclusion, if he actually approaches the appeal with an open mind, is clear "beyond a reasonable doubt." The AEI Report explains that the deflation of the footballs used by the Patriots in the first half of the American Conference Championship game was the result of the difference in temperature in the locker room and out on the field. "The Patriots balls were measured at the start of halftime, whereas the Colts balls were measured at the end of halftime, after sufficient time had passed for the balls to warm up and return to their pregame pressure." There is no direct or circumstantial evidence that the Patriots intentionally deflated the footballs below the limit set by the NFL rules. The NFL cannot be blamed for the trap that the rival team set for the Patriots during the January playoff game. The Commissioner, however, has to find a way out of this mess. He need not blame Ted Wells, who had served his client well. He need not chastise Troy Vincent for the four-game suspension of the NFL's golden boy. He need only blame the science and conclude that it is insufficient to support any suspension. He can save face by imposing a fine on QB12 for not fully cooperating with the NFL's investigation by not supplying his cell phone. Any other outcome would add another self-imposed scar on the NFL's reputation and an unwarranted blemish on the reputation of one of the game premier competitors.
brENsKi · Member since
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=13089148
http://larrybrownsports.com/football/tom-brady-seeking-exoneration/264514
empt to have his four-game suspension reduced, you’re wrong.
ESPN’s Sal Paolantonio combed through the four-page letter the NFL Players Association sent to executive vice president of football operations Troy Vincent, and Paolantonio said it is clear that Brady is seeking for the suspension to be completely overturned.
“In talking to people who are close to this situation, Brady wants the entire suspension removed and he wants to be exonerated,” he explained Tuesday. “He feels he has done nothing wrong. And if you listen to Bob Kraft, it’s pretty clear that they believe they will have Tom Brady for the (Week 1) Thursday night opener.”
In addition to attacking the Ted Wells report, Brady’s representatives will also point to the fact that the NFL’s game day operations manual calls for a base fine of $25,000 for tampering with game balls. That fine would be against the team, not an individual player. Based on what Brady makes in salary, a four-game suspension would equate to a fine of more than $1.8 million.
Robert Kraft recently stopped short of ruling Brady out for Week 1, which is what you would expect him to do before the appeal has been heard. But, as I mentioned before, it’s hard to escape the feeling that Kraft and Roger Goodell — who is hearing the appeal — worked out some sort of deal before Kraft agreed to accept the team’s Deflategate punishment.
Plus, did Brady look like he was concerned about his future when he was lighting the dance floor on fire at Kraft’s Super Bowl ring party over the weekend? Week 1 is not out of the question for the reigning Super Bowl MVP.
*goodco* · Member since
4 game suspension upheld.
I would prefer they use an arbitrator, since 'GODell' was judge and jury over a case that he applied the punishment for.
Still....Brady shot himself in the foot regarding the phone business.
This, and their 'ineligible receiver' stuff (first item discussed and changed at the rules meetings) once again shine an unfavorable light on their organization.
btw...I am a Ravens fan. I'm also originally from Michigan, so I've always liked, or at least admired and respected Brady. Still waiting for the 'truth' in this whole matter.
The King Of Rhye · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]*goodco* wrote:[/b]
I'm also originally from Michigan, so I've always liked, or at least admired and respected Brady. [/QUOTE]
Yeah, me too. My brother, who's as much of a Michigan fan as I am, has this weird dislike of him though....I think he's just sick of him and the Patriots winning as much as they have....lol
Best 6th round draft pick of all time?
matt z · Member since
Wow. You fuqqers are some serious American Football fans.
Fuck Brady and the team. They got caught.
I've always heard: if you're not cheating, you're not trying.
But this is embarrassing. Trying to appeal results. It's partly the NFLs fault for having poor regulations
The King Of Rhye · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]matt z wrote:[/b]
Wow. You fuqqers are some serious American Football fans.
Fuck Brady and the team. They got caught.
I've always heard: if you're not cheating, you're not trying.
But this is embarrassing. Trying to appeal results. It's partly the NFLs fault for having poor regulations[/QUOTE]
Pretty much any player that gets caught doing something or accused of doing something ALWAYS appeals their suspension....
I've heard stories (revealed years after the fact of course) of teams and players doing stuff like that and getting away with it, so it wouldnt surprise me at all if a lot of this kinda thing was going on.
brENsKi · Member since
i bet Panchgani is jiizzng his pants at the latest "upheld" decision. but it ain't over yet
fact is (and something that Panchgani refuses to acknowledge) that Patriots may have been singled out for thing other teams have already admitted doing and getting $25k fines for.
how does $1m, 3 draft picks, and your QB being suspended for four games measure out to this?
San Diego's Kicker did the self same thing and got a $25 fine...
the NFL is pissed with its own power, because even if Brady did this - max fine is $25k
yet he somehow gets a four-game unpaid suspension for something (yet to be) proven...astounding democracy Goodell, you f*ckwit
footnote: ex-NYJ kicker Jay Feely was present at NY court hearing this week to give evidence that he was directly aware/involved in tampering with ball-pressure while playing for the Jets (2009). and, despite evidence that proved his involvement - no punishment was even considered
brENsKi · Member since
I wonder what Mr Panchgani will have to say?
[i]Tom Brady will be under center for the Patriots' season opener next Thursday.[/i]
[i]The ruling, handed down by U.S. District Judge Richard Berman on Thursday morning, nullified the four-game suspension levied against the Patriots quarterback back on May 11 when Ted Wells, an independent investigator hired by the NFL, asserted Brady's connection to deflated footballs used in the AFC Championship Game this past season. The decision came after multiple attempts at settlement between Brady, his council, the NFL Players Association and the NFL. On Monday, Berman dismissed both sides after just a few minutes after realizing they were too far apart to reach a settlement. There is no word yet on whether the NFL will file an appeal. Eliminating Brady's suspension saves Patriots head coach Bill Belichick from dealing with the largest statistical drop off between starting quarterbacks in consecutive seasons since 1950. It also saves him from using another starter besides Brady for the first time since 2008, when Brady tore his ACL in the season-opener. The ruling is a clear victory for Brady, who had considered accepting a one-game suspensionaccording to NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport. But Brady did not want to accept any responsibility for the findings of the Wells Report, and in the end he didn't have to. The defending Super Bowl champions can now put yet another difficult offseason behind them.[/i]
brENsKi · Member since
the summation:
(A) Inadequate Notice of Discipline and Misconduct
(B) Commissioner Goodell Improperly Denied Brady the Opportunity to Examine Designated Co-Lead Investigator Jeff Pash
(C) Commissioner Goodell Improperly Denied Brady Equal Access to Investigative Files
a) Brady argues that Commissioner Goodell was "evidently partial" within the meaning of contending, among other things, that "a central ground of [his] appeal was the issue of Goodell improperly delegating to Vincent his exclusive authority to discipline players for conduct detrimental to the NFL
b) Brady argues that "Goodell purports to sustain the suspension on factual conclusions that Brady participated in ball tampering- but those factual conclusions [that "Mr. Brady knew about, approved of, consented to, and provided inducements and rewards in support of a scheme by which, with Mr. Jastremski's support, Mr. McNally tampered with the game balls"] appear nowhere in the Wells Report and were not the basis for the discipline imposed by Vincent." Brady contends that "Judge Doty's ruling in Peterson makes clear than an Article 46 arbitrator lacks CBA authority to justifY discipline on a basis not found in the discipline being appealed
c) Brady also argues that "prior to serving as hearing officer, the Commissioner publicly lauded the reliability of the Wells Report [which was conducted by NFL retained counsel]- the issue at the very heart of Brady's appeal." This "locked him into supporting the Wells Report and rendered him incapable of reaching a contrary conclusion in Brady's appeal, as doing so would undermine his own competency as Commissioner." Id.
VI. Conclusion & Order
For the reasons stated herein, the Management Council's motion to confirm the arbitration award [ECF No.4] is denied and the Players Association's motion to vacate the arbitration
award [ECF No. 28] is granted. Brady's four-game suspension is vacated, effective immediately. The Clerk is respectfully requested to close cases 15 Civ. 5916 and 15 Civ. 5982.
Dated: New York, New York
September 3, 2015
Saint Jiub · Member since
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[b]brENsKi wrote: [/b] i bet brENsKi is jiizzng his pants at the latest decision. but it ain't over yet [/QUOTE]
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]
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[b]brENsKi wrote: [/b] i bet brENsKi is jiizzng his pants at the latest decision. but it ain't over yet [/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
nice lazy edit fella.
your reply was as piss-poor as the NFL's case against Brady eh?
best in future that you pick fights you have a chance of winning. it shows beyond all doubt that your judgment (such as it is) is clouded by your Patriots-Hate.
because even a blind man could see the NFL's case was ridiculous in EVERY aspect...ironic that (thankfully) the only sensible/reasoned/objective person in New York is Judge Berman.
you backed the wrong horse fella...but then JEST/FISH fans have been doing that for 15-straight years haven't they (you)? - if your team spent HALF of their Patriot-Hate energy on actually playing football, the the AFC east might not be such a cakewalk.
