I'm on the Steve Hoffman Music Forum. The forum mostly has people from the U.S. on there. But some of the poll results, and comments surprised me.
Queen vs Led Zepp.
Queen
176 vote(s) 25.8%
Led Zeppelin
453 vote(s) 66.5%
If the forum had a more global user base, as opposed to people mostly from the U.S, I am fairly sure the results wouldn't be looking like that.
Same with this post, Jagger vs Mercury.
Mick Jagger
401 vote(s) 57.2%
Freddie Mercury
300 vote(s) 42.8%
From my observations, usually Jagger lags behind on this stuff.
Of course, essentially these polls are mostly pointless and I don't much like those band vs band / singer vs singer threads, but as I say, the comments/poll results still surprised me nonetheless.
Does it seem to be the case to others here, that Queen is often still dismissed in the U.S in comparison to the U.K and elsewhere around the world? I'd been entertaining the idea for a while that the U.S would've had time by now to reevaluate when it comes to Queen, but it seems if that hasn't happened all these years on, it never will.
(Also, I like to add that I like both the Stones and Zeppelin).
Chief Mouse · Member since
Interesting. But well, we all have biased opinions to some extent. What bugs me though, is that many people only know several Queen hit songs which might not even be their best by any means, stuff like I Want To Break Free or something, while at the same time having no clue about a genius piece like The March Of The Black Queen, for example.
A few quotes from that forum -
"Did Queen ever record one great song besides BR? I find it absurd that a rock band has an opera singer."
"Queen? No way they are even close IMO. Another one bites the dust. We are the champions. These songs are worthy of being the soundtrack to cartoons. IMO."
Haha! - "Mick is better only because of staying power."
master marathon runner · Member since
Crikey, what the he'll they thinking?
brENsKi · Member since
it's a tough one.
led zep's biggest selling original studio album has four million more worldwide sales than queen's greatest hits.
29m vs 25m
they say "money talks"...so perhaps the biggest indicator of worldwide opinion would be sales?
here's a list of certified and claimed total album sales (in millions)
there is some "distortion" in the above - as some of the list were major "singles" artists and benefit hugely in total sales og greatest hits compilations
abba, queen, elton, madonna, michael jackson and the stones -
for instance more than 25% of queen's total album sales is attributable to ONE greatest hits album alone.
Day dop · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Chief Mouse wrote:[/b]
"Did Queen ever record one great song besides BR? I find it absurd that a rock band has an opera singer."[/QUOTE]
I just replied to that. I need to stop now.
Day dop · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
it's a tough one.
led zep's biggest selling original studio album has four million more worldwide sales than queen's greatest hits.
29m vs 25m
they say "money talks"...so perhaps the biggest indicator of worldwide opinion would be sales?
here's a list of certified and claimed total album sales (in millions)
there is some "distortion" in the above - as some of the list were major "singles" artists and benefit hugely in total sales og greatest hits compilations
abba, queen, elton, madonna, michael jackson and the stones -
for instance more than 25% of queen's total album sales is attributable to ONE greatest hits album alone.
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Good point there. LZ sold far more in the U.S than Queen did though.
It's still remarkable how Queen outsold the Stones, given how much longer the Stones had been around.
bucsateflon · Member since
It's cool to say "Led Zeppelin", most people don't know shit about them, just a cool name for a rock band that has androgen, straight dude's.
So no surprise...
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]bucsateflon wrote:[/b]
It's cool to say "Led Zeppelin", most people don't know shit about them, just a cool name for a rock band that has androgen, straight dude's.
So no surprise...[/QUOTE]
wrong. wrong.wrong.
i can think of a couple of Led Zep songs that's I'd bet are more well known on a worldwide scale than any queen song
Whole Lotta Love, and
Stairway To Heaven
and before you leap to queen's defence - Zep were never a singles band - queen had a couple of singles every year to maintain their profileand promote their albums, zep relied albums alone
brENsKi · Member since
wrong. wrong.wrong.
i can think of a couple of Led Zep songs that's I'd bet are more well known on a worldwide scale than any queen song
Whole Lotta Love, and
Stairway To Heaven
and before you leap to queen's defence - Zep were never a singles band - queen had a couple of singles every year to maintain their profileand promote their albums, zep relied albums alone
one other thing that struck me about the album sales list. No David Bowie?
esp when you consider how monumental albums like ziggy, aladdin, heroes and let's dance must've been. factor in a few greatest hits albums also...and you have to ask..."where is he?"
The King Of Rhye · Member since
Just going by my own (completely unscientific, of course) anecdotal evidence, I'd say that poll sounds more or less accurate about Queen's perception in the US. I've always known way more people that were huge fans of Zep than of Queen. (and I kind of like it that way :P)
The King Of Rhye · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
wrong. wrong.wrong.
i can think of a couple of Led Zep songs that's I'd bet are more well known on a worldwide scale than any queen song
Whole Lotta Love, and
Stairway To Heaven
[/QUOTE]
I'm not defending what the person that you replied to said, but I'm not so sure about that. Bohemian Rhapsody and We Will Rock You are pretty well-known songs, also Another One Bites The Dust....along the lines of what I just said in my last post, though, I'm pretty sure that most of the people I know know MORE Zep songs than Queen songs...
bucsateflon · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
wrong. wrong.wrong.
i can think of a couple of Led Zep songs that's I'd bet are more well known on a worldwide scale than any queen song
Whole Lotta Love, and
Stairway To Heaven
[/QUOTE]
Led Zep hype, that's all.
"Whole Lotta Love" be serious in what world do you live in?? in the real world of "Gangnam style" and Taylor Swift this song is close to zero notoriety, worldwide "Don't stop me now" (just an example) is much more known the any Led Zep song.
"Stairway To Heaven" is a fucking ballad, and that's all, people should not compare it with Bo Rap, more like "Nothing else matters" it's a fair comparison or other song of that type.
If somebody want's to impress with their music skills they say: "Led Zeppelin" and everybody will shake their head in agreement but in reality they don't listen, know them or give two shits about them.
Led Zep hype, that's all.
Day dop · Member since
Led Zep aren't just hype, bucsateflon.
To be honest, I'd put Stairway on an equal footing with Bohemian Rhapsody in terms of being known worldwide. And for Whole Lotta Love, I'd put forward, say, We Are the Champions. All good tunes (even if you have heard them all to death).
Day dop · Member since
The guy on that thread doesn't seem to like me countering his arguments much. He resorted to bringing up Cliff Richard.
I'm going to unfollow that thread. I don't get much pleasure out of arguing with complete strangers on the net about music tastes, which is essentially what it all boils down to.
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]bucsateflon wrote:[/b]"Stairway To Heaven" is a fucking ballad, and that's all, people should not compare it with Bo Rap, more like "Nothing else matters" it's a fair comparison or other song of that type.[/QUOTE]seriously? you really are clueless. why let others expose your ignorance when you do it so well yourself?
in one sentence you call "stairway" a f***ing ballad, then in the next you liken it to Nothing Else Matters....jeez,
[QUOTE] [b]bucsateflon wrote:[/b]If somebody want's to impress with their music skills they say: "Led Zeppelin" and everybody will shake their head in agreement but in reality they don't listen, know them or give two shits about them.
Led Zep hype, that's all.[/QUOTE] so basically, you're another f***ing queen stepford, who can't accept the greatness of any other band. i for one have never really loved Zep, but i can at least accept the greatness of their songs
