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I love Dr May.Fantastic guitar player,animal rights campaigner and all,he should be Prime Minister.But I read somewhere that what they were doing with Adam was the EQUAL of anything they did with Freddie.Er,no....and as I bought every album since their inception in 1973 on the very day they came out,I should be fully qualified to say so.Ok,I have insider information.Universal invested heavily in Queen so would like some of their investment back.That's the business,so Bri is hardly going to say that the show is 'Ok '.The attendance at the U.S shows was great,which was not the case with the Rodgers gigs,surprisingly.Adam has had chart toppers there,he is a good singer,but in terms of range,power and emotion,he is NO Freddie.He admits that himself.But fair play to the dude,he has a lot of balls to do what he does.And it's great that America has seen half of Queen again to show what a mighty band they were,hopefully they might have sold some more albums there as well.But the true hero in all this is JOHN DEACON,who has prevented them being their own tribute band,and wisely stayed away.....................................
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Geez. Where's the punctuation?
Grammar and syntax are dead.

This was discussed months ago. I think it was his way of saying that the LIVE SHOW was as good... etc.

Of course he was just hyping up the Tour. Although it was blasphemous to say such a thing. I'm sure that certain people in his peers must have thought him mad to say so as well.

Eh. It got them playing again. ...I guess that's good
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Damned, got a headache now...
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blah blah blah.....

What's Brian going to say? That the show isn't good or is in some way sub-standard? No. Of course not.

In terms of stage craft, and vocal range, and technique, and consistency, Adam Lambert is Freddie's superior. That's simply because Adam Lambert has been trained, and trained, and trained, and honed, and trained, and coached, and all that, to within an inch of his life (which is normal and fair enough, and a good thing). He most probably doesn't hit the hard drugs, is moderate with his alcohol intake and doesn't smoke.

In terms of raw power, natural talent, personality, and actual sound quality of the voice (on his good days), musicianship, songwriting (I've heard some of Adam's stuff), arranging, production, Freddie Mercury is superior in every way.

Anyway it doesn't matter. Freddie can't do the show, and Adam is a bloody good front man for the band's tour. Whether you want to call it Maylor and Lambert, whether you want to call it Queen, Q + AL, whatever. It's a good night out, it's a great tribute to Freddie, and it's wonderful that Queen are in the public eye as a serious touring concern again. Paul Rodgers didn't achieve this with the band, so it's really the first time in 30 years that Queen have been at the top. Yes, we don't have John Deacon anymore and that's sad. It would be nice if we could have John on bass, or at least him poking his head above the parapet and saying 'Hi folks, glad you like the music after all this time' or something, but the fact is he doesn't want to. Kudos to him that he hasn't tried to throw the spanner in the works and make it difficult for Brian and Roger to use the Queen branding, Kudos to the Freddie Mercury estate and family for giving their blessing.

Fine. Everything is fine.
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I used to be negative about Adam, But then I actually watched an entire gig, then what do you know? My opinions completelly changed. He Is a great guy who puts on a great show.
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Brian is the man!
Fuckers
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Well said, miraclesteinway.

What I don't understand is John 'preventing them from being their own tribute band.' Huh? How's that work? If he was with them, they'd be a tribute band, but he's not so they're not?

And I'll just add that I was against the idea of this collaboration when I first heard of it. I liked the Paul thing, and my thoughts were something like "they're going from a rock legend to some American Idol guy?" But I gave it a chance, listened to a few performances, liked it....saw them last year, and I loved it :D Adam is not a 'good' singer, he's a great singer, in my opinion.
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And the thing about Universal 'wanting their investment back' so that's why they're doing this? I'm not buying that. I'm totally not sure how any of that works, but would the money a band makes from touring go to their record label anyway? Remember, Universal bought EMI, there's a LOT of artists involved in that, it was hardly just Queen....

"insider information"....suuuuure......
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When I went to watch Adam with Bri and Rog at the 02 Arena, London, I wasn't sure what to expect. Needless to say, I was blown away. Compared to the Paul Rodgers show, they were miles better.
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[QUOTE] [b]miraclesteinway wrote:[/b]

blah blah blah.....

What's Brian going to say? That the show isn't good or is in some way sub-standard? No. Of course not.

In terms of stage craft, and vocal range, and technique, and consistency, Adam Lambert is Freddie's superior. That's simply because Adam Lambert has been trained, and trained, and trained, and honed, and trained, and coached, and all that, to within an inch of his life (which is normal and fair enough, and a good thing). He most probably doesn't hit the hard drugs, is moderate with his alcohol intake and doesn't smoke.

In terms of raw power, natural talent, personality, and actual sound quality of the voice (on his good days), musicianship, songwriting (I've heard some of Adam's stuff), arranging, production, Freddie Mercury is superior in every way.

Anyway it doesn't matter. Freddie can't do the show, and Adam is a bloody good front man for the band's tour. Whether you want to call it Maylor and Lambert, whether you want to call it Queen, Q + AL, whatever. It's a good night out, it's a great tribute to Freddie, and it's wonderful that Queen are in the public eye as a serious touring concern again. Paul Rodgers didn't achieve this with the band, so it's really the first time in 30 years that Queen have been at the top. Yes, we don't have John Deacon anymore and that's sad. It would be nice if we could have John on bass, or at least him poking his head above the parapet and saying 'Hi folks, glad you like the music after all this time' or something, but the fact is he doesn't want to. Kudos to him that he hasn't tried to throw the spanner in the works and make it difficult for Brian and Roger to use the Queen branding, Kudos to the Freddie Mercury estate and family for giving their blessing.

Fine. Everything is fine. [/QUOTE]

Nothing else needs to be said really. I think this post is the definite answer to the endless Adam Lambert topics. It hits every point and answers them.

We all know Freddie was more of a rarity than Adam - but Adam's doing a good job and putting on an entertaining show, and I enjoyed seeing him and Queen in January. We ought to consider ourselves lucky that our band is still performing - and yes, all the shows are a tribute to Freddie. Freddie is still there, in spirit. That's how the show felt, anyway.

There was a sense of a lot of respect - both from Adam and the rest of the band's side, and the audience's side - for Freddie.
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Never worked with Adam but. .. he was noise gated thewholeway through


I wasn't happy with the gig I attended. But that may be owing to having a stage side seat.

Also familial depression from my brother in the hospital virtually on life support.


But the gig (the forum 7/3) was LAME.

I haven't attended a kids choice awards in twenty years but it all felt completely artificial. (Just like one of "THOSE" Nickelodeon productions. ...)
Nothing about Lambert there. He was actually surprisingly entertaining

Had it been a club and I was working sound it'd been different. But the whole element seemed like a b version of reality. Everything but Adams banter seemed like it was phoned in. It sounded like crap.

Just my opinion from stage left in front of Brian for the second half (I debated even showing up but none of my friends would respond about the digital tickets that night)

I ran to buses, transferred to railways when downtown los Angeles had been closed for some fireworks thing the following day *&(I wish I knew before hand)

I ran for an hour asking "peace officers" where the lines hd been rerouted and got no legible response.

I took to going west and asking people at a café how to get to the forum.
Thankfully I finally figured it out with the assistance of my dying phone.

I took the subway again instead of the provided route via mta.

I asked and cried to people HOW DO I GET TO THE FORUM *(at around 8pm)
And finally some kids told me.

I wound up taking a 45 minute bus tour that started on the FREEWAY/HIGHWAY (if you can believe that) and took another street line for 30 minutes in what was probably the worst area the city had on any other day. Desolate empty. Barren. Possibly all a danger zine

I thought about my brother dying in the hospital and knew that he'd support me catching the band regardless of a virtual holocaust. He'd known I loved the group and was one to put up with me WHORING QUEEN anytime music was played. He didn't care but everybody else did. He knew that I was fascinated by then and wished I'd seen them in their time. He even offered to loan me his drivers license when I wasn't admitted to queen : WRITTEN IN THE STARS as a youth.

I was THREE weeks away from 21 so I couldn't see "QUEEN" in Hollywood with Nuno and Steve vai... by the time I'd made it back from the valley with my brothers "fake I.d." (I was taking the BUS) it was so unlikely that I just stayed home

For a band i practically worshipped that was the ultimate in disappointments until I attended the show at the forum.

I finally arrived around nine to catch Roger singing UNDER PRESSURE and everybody in attendance looked bored.

I walked to find the ticket man to let me in to the floor ticket I'd bought that morning.

(*I'd had another stage left that I bought for about $150 three months before. .. But due to some rich FUCK opting out of his RESERVED OPTION I bought his seat stage right near Brian.


I was escorted and the usher told me that there has been issues with tickets (people who weren't there were sitting there) but I was welcome to try at the row I'd bought my ticket in m


As soon I was escorted in I saw Brian looking at me with that "is this another mark David Chapman" look. But he looked at me directly while doing his thing.


It must have been SURPRISING to have somebody ACTUALLY SHIFTING THEIR ASS during this gig.

I was cold from dehydration and running through Inglewood *(and the parking lot) to get there in spite of the terror raising in the back of my mind (*my brother dying in the hospital at USC) ... It was a horrible excellence and to make matters worse.

For the first time I was seeing "Queen" the volume was as low as a living room conversation.

It was disappointing.

I played in my structure to hold up the Queen Tour pamphlet I'd bought on eBay when I was 17 to say "yeah!!!!" Like an avid fan Boy. But it was all forced.


I felt badly the entire night. When. Brian saw my Tour pamphlet from 1978-79 he turned his back and kept playing. But when I walked up he looked at me as if to say wtf are YOU showing up so late?

The disco ball came down and the band played through the hits without any sense of significance untilAdamdid his call and response vocalizing which was borrowed from Freddie.

The entire thing left me confused. The volume was more situated for a living room than a live ROCK concert and the introduction of anything new was horrible. It was all staged crap and it was boring.


Maybe it was my state of mind considering the life changes happening at a room on the 6th floor of KECK USC.

The whole experience sucked (for me)

Having snuck off
. I had to take an hour bus ride back to the danger zoneoflos Angeles around midnight and I RAN uphill the rest of the way.

The only fortunate thing was that I'd shared the 81 your programme I'd brought with a kind mother and Daughter team that had come from somewhere in los Angeles (kind white ppl) but I'd departed the line 40 minutes before I'd entered the zone between the man made lake ...

I arrived at 1am and slept for 10 minutes between 4:30am and 4:40 as the custom of living in the hospital while my brother died.

What a weekend. Unconsciousness on the 4th and incapacitance thereafter. What a wonderful weekend.

The gig sucked and I wished I'd been at the hospital those extra 7 hours out of 2 months staying whenever I could (*at times 36 hours + until work)

The gig was disappointing. Badly. If that's what I was looking forward to, And it couldn't even rock me out of the horrible suspended depression my body was experiencing. .... Then it was a pretty shitty show.


I've been to better club shows. Adam almost made me laugh. One day I'll share my horribly recorded bootleg of the second half of the gig.


And you'll ONLY hear ME participating in the CALL AND RESPONSE bit that was live.


I thought I'd been disappointed at the hospital by a team that had given positive ideals but then turned into sad realities with my brothers life. ..


But .. The gig at the forum sucked as well.



Must have been playing for COMPANY?


I couldn't imagine anyone wanting to play a ROCK concert so low.

It was pathetic.

Sad.

Never mind me and my turbulence; about to lose my brother in 72 hours. The gig must have felt really artificial and it must have really really really sucked.

Cause that's what I felt.

Suckage.


When Adam came out 30 feet away in gold with a crown I just wanted to leave. So I did.

I caught some gold confetti before leaving but the whole thing was a horrific page of reality.

I.e. this is terrible. There isn't even the modicum of escapism presented here.

This sucks.

These people in THE RICH SEATS are self serving goaded morons who will "tell the story that I went to see QUEEN and it was fantastic. ..


No it wasn't.

Even Adam called out the rich shit heads onstage.

He said "don't worry, they can handle it if they paid for these seats"

They wouldn't even sing any of the songs. They probably didn't KNOW any of the songs.


They're the crowd that thinks BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY is ABOUT AIDS.

Those were the patrons.

What a joke.

Poor folks who love the band in the nose bleeds. Suckers like me who bought two tickets in front attending with the rich and boring.

It wasn't a rock concert. It was a terrible revue WITH A KID THAT SHOWED MORE INTEREST IN IT THAN ANYONE ELSE.


Terrible.

Anyways. I'm rambling. Good to get that out of the system. Shitty ass show. Almost as bad as lame ass George Thorogood at the Greek.

Awful.


Sorry guys.

I'm rambling MORE THAN A BIT. .. But if that's what they intended then their Tour probably sucked.

Just saying. Maybe there are bad nights and whatever but emotion is key. It was droll. Phoned in.
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[QUOTE] [b]miraclesteinway wrote:[/b] In terms of stage craft, and vocal range, and technique, and consistency, Adam Lambert is Freddie's superior. [/QUOTE]

Freddie had the bigger range of the two overall, as he could go lower. Lambert hits the high notes, but then Roger Taylor used to hit the high notes that Freddie couldn't always hit too.
As for stage craft, I don't see how Lambert would be considered superior.

I've seen Queen+ Lambert live, and overall, although he did an adequate to good job of filling in - more suited than Paul Rodgers - Lambert's sustained high pitched harsh notes were fatiguing.
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*(in order to compete a rambling passage)


... THERE! ... I SAID I WOULDN'T SAY IT BUT I SAID IT...!





THE FORUM GIG SUCKED! !

IT WAS BORING! They're a ROCK band. .. The gig was BORING!

only saving grace was Adam.... and that's embarrassing
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[QUOTE]

[b]miraclesteinway wrote: [/b] blah blah blah.....

What's Brian going to say? That the show isn't good or is in some way sub-standard? No. Of course not.

In terms of stage craft, and vocal range, and technique, and consistency, Adam Lambert is Freddie's superior. That's simply because Adam Lambert has been trained, and trained, and trained, and honed, and trained, and coached, and all that, to within an inch of his life (which is normal and fair enough, and a good thing). He most probably doesn't hit the hard drugs, is moderate with his alcohol intake and doesn't smoke.

In terms of raw power, natural talent, personality, and actual sound quality of the voice (on his good days), musicianship, songwriting (I've heard some of Adam's stuff), arranging, production, Freddie Mercury is superior in every way.

Anyway it doesn't matter. Freddie can't do the show, and Adam is a bloody good front man for the band's tour. Whether you want to call it Maylor and Lambert, whether you want to call it Queen, Q + AL, whatever. It's a good night out, it's a great tribute to Freddie, and it's wonderful that Queen are in the public eye as a serious touring concern again. Paul Rodgers didn't achieve this with the band, so it's really the first time in 30 years that Queen have been at the top. Yes, we don't have John Deacon anymore and that's sad. It would be nice if we could have John on bass, or at least him poking his head above the parapet and saying 'Hi folks, glad you like the music after all this time' or something, but the fact is he doesn't want to. Kudos to him that he hasn't tried to throw the spanner in the works and make it difficult for Brian and Roger to use the Queen branding, Kudos to the Freddie Mercury estate and family for giving their blessing.

Fine. Everything is fine.[/QUOTE]

Good post! You know, sometimes I wish I was in place of Gerry or whoever was one of those people who stated that they won't go seeing Q+AL no matter what. Why? Because they had a bloody chance! I didn't - they didn't come to my country and probably never will (perhaps this was the last time they toured Europe). I would have gladly paid and seen Brian and Roger play live for the first time in my life.
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Brian and Kerry played 2 miles away from me and I didn't go. No interest in elevator music.
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